Originally posted by Daft If this game was only PC it would flop, but the ps3/ps4 release will make this game thrive. I can see this one easily topping WOWs numbers. If you played the PC beta i can see how you where not impressed. PS3 testing was a breath of fresh air and something new. I could only imagine how somebody that is new to mmorps is going to feel when they pick this up at walmart.
I agree with you 100%.
Oh ffs.. anyway OP,I stopped reading after greatest MMO since WoW because I hate that 'game' with a passion. Yes i am in a negative mood but come on? where is the great mmo?
This is not "THE" game. It will not hold a candle to vanilla WoW. It bring no innovation to the genre. Everything that the dev crew is extolling as a plus to the game is just a spit shined version of everything before it.
Originally posted by Sithos This is not "THE" game. It will not hold a candle to vanilla WoW. It bring no innovation to the genre. Everything that the dev crew is extolling as a plus to the game is just a spit shined version of everything before it.
You could say the same about WoW.
They didn't bring anything innovative to the table and copied other previous MMORPGs like Everquest and Asheron's Call. Actually they left a lot of great social-aspects OUT of the equation. Such as player-housing, a player-dependant economy and just an overall... Community that exists outside the realms of putting guilds on a pedastal to enforce raiding or making pre-made PVP groups for arenas.
Honestly - We haven't had anything innovative to the Genre at all, since Sandbox MMOs(The Original MMORPGs) were destroyed by Blizzard's Themepark MMORPG. In which almost every MMORPG since then has been copying. Excluding indie games like Darkfall and EVE Online, which are ironically enough both sandbox MMOs.
While I'm sure the game will do well because its a Final Fantasy game and its not a trainwreck like the last iteration, There are probably about half a dozen MMOs out right now that are better than this game.
At the end if the day, your going to keep the FF fans and lose everyone who isn't a major FF fan. There is simply no reason a non-FF fan would stick with this game when he has better options.
There is simply no reason a non-FF fan would stick with this game when he has better options.
Indeed, and because there arent better options they will stay
Games that are better than FF XIV and already released. That's not even touching the non NA/EU titles like Blade of Souls or the sandbox titles like Eve.
World of Warcraft
The Secret World
Tera
Guild Wars 2
Age of Conan
Aion
O please the only good ones on that list, wow,aoc,aion are old games the other ones dont come close to Ffxiv
There is simply no reason a non-FF fan would stick with this game when he has better options.
Indeed, and because there arent better options they will stay
Games that are better than FF XIV and already released. That's not even touching the non NA/EU titles like Blade of Souls or the sandbox titles like Eve.
World of Warcraft
The Secret World
Tera
Guild Wars 2
Age of Conan
Aion
O please the only good ones on that list, wow,aoc,aion are old games the other ones dont come close to Ffxiv
WoW is a titan that's fluid engine and UI absolutely shames the clunky mess that FF XIV uses, despite being released nearly a decade ago. Aion is a monster in Korea, and isn't even 4 years old ; and still has better character models than FF XIV (although it's environments and particle effects don't hold a candle).
Both games combat systems shit all over FF XIV, and Aion isn't even a particularly good combat game. God forbid we even bring up Tera or GW2's combat system, which absolutely demolish it (while also having better graphics).
Some won't see it, but there is something about this game that is so good that it makes it almost impossible to stop playing. Other MMO's I usually force myself to get on and play, with FFXIV I have to force myself to STOP playing.
There is simply no reason a non-FF fan would stick with this game when he has better options.
Indeed, and because there arent better options they will stay
Games that are better than FF XIV and already released. That's not even touching the non NA/EU titles like Blade of Souls or the sandbox titles like Eve.
World of Warcraft
The Secret World
Tera
Guild Wars 2
Age of Conan
Aion
O please the only good ones on that list, wow,aoc,aion are old games the other ones dont come close to Ffxiv
WoW is a titan that's fluid engine and UI absolutely shames the clunky mess that FF XIV uses, despite being released nearly a decade ago. Aion is a monster in Korea, and isn't even 4 years old ; and still has better character models than FF XIV (although it's environments and particle effects don't hold a candle).
Both games combat systems shit all over FF XIV, and Aion isn't even a particularly good combat game. God forbid we even bring up Tera or GW2's combat system, which absolutely demolish it (while also having better graphics).
You didnt played FFXIV seems. I played all these games, Tera, GW2, Aion... First, u CANT compare an Action RPG like Tera and GW2 to an Classic RPG like FFXIV, because is like comparing apples with oranges. You like Action RPG? fine, i dont. I love to play Action games, Bioshock, F.E.A.R, Battlefield, etc and i love to play RPG... but in my experience, MMOARPG are shit.
And about graphics.. oh camon, i played all these games at Max settings and FFXIV won to all them. And more options is different than better character models... Aion models are obviusly worse than FFXIV models, it have more options to create your character.. thats true, but are not better models when we talk about quality.
Mark my words. FFXIV ARR will be the greatest mmo since vanilla WoW. Consider my reasons for this claim. Unlike any other mmo, FFXIV will be released world wide Aug.27 on both PC and PS3. With over 70 million PS3 units sold imagine how many people walking into walmart or gamestop looking for a roleplaying game will be attracted to this title. FFXI at its peak had 500k members and it was predominantly on PS2. Even if only 1% of all PS3 owners buy FFXIV thats over 700k subscribers on console alone. Know that FFXIV will also be released on PS4. We all know how cautious we can be when buying first gen games for new consoles. Imagine how comforting the Final Fantasy name will be to people looking for games in that genre. Then there all the FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 people who will want to give ARR a try. Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming.
For new players playing their very first mmo ARR has a VERY friendly learning curve. Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy. However it has been confirmed that as you progress towards endgame the games challenges become more daunting. To the point of having to quit ones job in order to devote all of ones time to the game just to "first achieve" the games endgame rewards. There is also the ability to progress smoothly in game through both solo and group play.
It is commonly known that 1.0 had one of the deepest crafting systems in all mmos. This will be retained in 2.0, plus a crafting driven economy. Add a combination of 16 classes and jobs to choose from at release. Along with 18+ dungeons that range from easy to extremely hard. Player housing. Deep storylines.A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date. Plus one can really become attached to whatever character you create because one toon can be any and every job. So goodbye Alts.
Then theres the attraction for the ladies. In-game marriage. Ceremony and everything.(yes wedding gowns) Being able to dress up ones mount in various outfits. Minions or pets that walk along beside you. And man some of these are pretty impressive. Yes I know these can be found in several mmos, but none of them look as good as these. Imagine a hand clad in a mickey mouse glove that follows you pointing at stuff. Then theres the outfits. Anything from full body armor, to dresses with purses filled flowers, to bikinis. Finally the ability to craft items for your house. Anything from wallpaper to roofing. And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest.
All of these things and many more have me convinced that this will be the greatest mmo in years and possibly for years to come.
Fact that you think WOW is the Holy Grail makes this story a but, unbelievable.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
WoW is a titan that's fluid engine and UI absolutely shames the clunky mess that FF XIV uses, despite being released nearly a decade ago. Aion is a monster in Korea, and isn't even 4 years old ; and still has better character models than FF XIV (although it's environments and particle effects don't hold a candle).
Both games combat systems shit all over FF XIV, and Aion isn't even a particularly good combat game. God forbid we even bring up Tera or GW2's combat system, which absolutely demolish it (while also having better graphics).
U clearly havent played the game, as ffxiv has a great engine and works really fluent.
As to graphics it easily outwins all other game, so again please play the game befor u criticise.
And finaly it is a different combat system indeed then tera and gw2 so u cant really compare that.
And besides this game is so much more fun then tera and gw2 as a whole.
WoW is a titan that's fluid engine and UI absolutely shames the clunky mess that FF XIV uses, despite being released nearly a decade ago. Aion is a monster in Korea, and isn't even 4 years old ; and still has better character models than FF XIV (although it's environments and particle effects don't hold a candle).
Both games combat systems shit all over FF XIV, and Aion isn't even a particularly good combat game. God forbid we even bring up Tera or GW2's combat system, which absolutely demolish it (while also having better graphics).
U clearly havent played the game, as ffxiv has a great engine and works really fluent.
As to graphics it easily outwins all other game, so again please play the game befor u criticise.
And finaly it is a different combat system indeed then tera and gw2 so u cant really compare that.
And besides this game is so much more fun then tera and gw2 as a whole.
It's a good engine, it's not a great engine. Wow is a great engine. Gw2 is a great engine. Tera is a great engine.
graphics. No...just no. It does not beat GW2 or Tera. You are absolutely nonsensical to claim that. The character models don't stand up to either game.
Sure I can compare combat systems, this is a 2013 game using a combat system style of GCD that has been largely abandoned. On top of that, it's pacing is awful... Which makes me wonder if its because the engine can't handle the additional clock cycles of speeding the games pacing up. Otherwise why keep it so god awful slow? The "FF feel" nonsense doesn't cut it for me.
as a whole, fun starts and ends with combat... This game has boring combat. It may be a better fleshed out game, but it is not a more fun game, as an example...Tera is a god damn blast to play, it's just shallow outside of its combat system. EQ2 is a ridiculously deep game, but its combat is mediocre and this it isn't that fun.
There is simply no reason a non-FF fan would stick with this game when he has better options.
Indeed, and because there arent better options they will stay
Games that are better than FF XIV and already released. That's not even touching the non NA/EU titles like Blade of Souls or the sandbox titles like Eve.
World of Warcraft
The Secret World
Tera
Guild Wars 2
Age of Conan
Aion
O please the only good ones on that list, wow,aoc,aion are old games the other ones dont come close to Ffxiv
WoW is a titan that's fluid engine and UI absolutely shames the clunky mess that FF XIV uses, despite being released nearly a decade ago. Aion is a monster in Korea, and isn't even 4 years old ; and still has better character models than FF XIV (although it's environments and particle effects don't hold a candle).
Both games combat systems shit all over FF XIV, and Aion isn't even a particularly good combat game. God forbid we even bring up Tera or GW2's combat system, which absolutely demolish it (while also having better graphics).
You didnt played FFXIV seems. I played all these games, Tera, GW2, Aion... First, u CANT compare an Action RPG like Tera and GW2 to an Classic RPG like FFXIV, because is like comparing apples with oranges. You like Action RPG? fine, i dont. I love to play Action games, Bioshock, F.E.A.R, Battlefield, etc and i love to play RPG... but in my experience, MMOARPG are shit.
And about graphics.. oh camon, i played all these games at Max settings and FFXIV won to all them. And more options is different than better character models... Aion models are obviusly worse than FFXIV models, it have more options to create your character.. thats true, but are not better models when we talk about quality.
Yes, I can compare them. They're both MMOs and their both combat systems. You don't get a free pass because your game chose a dated combat system.
Second, aRPGs failures have nothing to do with their combat, with the exception of maybe GW2 which decided to abandon the trinity (which is more of a design choice than a combat system failure). If you take a game like Tera and you slap TSW quality storyline, questing, and voice acting on it...man that would be awesome. The problem is all the companies that seem to be able to produce the really good combat systems with slick animations and graphics; are absolutely awful when it comes to questing and storyline systems.
If you're trying to honestly tell me that you think tab>target combat is better than aRPG combat though... you might as well tell me it's your opinion that dog shit tastes better than cheetohs.
"If you're trying to honestly tell me that you think tab>target combat is better than aRPG combat though... you might as well tell me it's your opinion that dog shit tastes better than cheetohs. "
For me tab>target is much better then action one in tera you know why? because i prefer classic mmo thats for first and for 2nd combat in tera is piece of shit and now watch out: FOR ME, you might prefer it and im ok with that.
I dont have nothing against idea of action oriented combat but corrent tech used in tera for me and i guess for many others is just not that good. Sure im not saying its not innovating but for now its just "meh".
Edit: i love ui in ARR its one of the best iv ever seen+build on threat meter is very subtle and hard to notice at first.
Played previous FF games - MEH - nothing exciting to me. If you like it fine, but it is not the savior of the MMO genre like people in this thread think it will be.
Guess you can't read, I said 'no major content update' and yeah, I looked through the page.
Bug fixes, class balancing, and seasonal events. OH look and some limited run events too.
NOT major content, sorry GW2 fans.
Take your quarterly content updates in a p2p MMO, spread it out over bi-weekly intervals, see where you get more.
Given the nature of The Living Story and how it works....P2P hands down. GW2 updates always total the current content patch only.
Who cares what content was added last month. OK, sure it was great fun for all. But it's gone. The only content in GW2 right now is one small patch. Next week, the only content in GW2 will be one small patch. Next month, the only content available in GW2 will be one small patch. In 3 months............(see where this is going)? To be fair, this also assumes said P2P game doesn't run a string of fail patches one after the other.
how about you take those fanboy glasses off your eyes, yeah sure whatever i will not play it and never will and all the players will drop it the minute they get bored to the antiquated combat style only final fantasy fan boys will remain when they realise....wait...what...havent i played this before Ö_Ö huh did i really drop "that" for "this"???
yeah sure it might have a few features and mechanics that arent seen in other mmorpgs but it is not enough to keep the player base happy when thats all it has they only fixed the broken game and put some make up on it now dont get me wrong this probably is the best mmorpg in the last 8 years but even at its best it reaches the quality of rift (game mechanics and feature wise), and rift went f2p they can do the same if they release on consoles or even better, its only the title of the franchize that draws the crowds at this point
and best doesnt mean how popular it is or will be, "best" is all about the games' core features and mechanics it is built on imo
i mean... damn i swore it wouldnt come to this..... look at WoW i dont think its the best mmo and it still has over 10 million players THERE I SAID IT I AM SOOOO SORRY
shit cant become pure gold no matter how much gold you eat, at best you find some small nuggets here and there but shit is still shit
or should i say "manure" how strict is the forum policy on foul language i wonder
no scratch that, the term "best" is what you consider is the best there is no absolute everyone has their opinions no one can come and say to you THIS IS THE BEST LOVE IT AND BOW DOWN TO IT GIVE ME MONEY i mean.. they can, but do you take their word for it and do what they say without a second thought?
how about you take those fanboy glasses off your eyes, yeah sure whatever i will not play it and never will and all the players will drop it the minute they get bored to the antiquated combat style only final fantasy fan boys will remain when they realise....wait...what...havent i played this before Ö_Ö huh did i really drop "that" for "this"???
yeah sure it might have a few features and mechanics that arent seen in other mmorpgs but it is not enough to keep the player base happy when thats all it has they only fixed the broken game and put some make up on it now dont get me wrong this probably is the best mmorpg in the last 8 years but even at its best it reaches the quality of rift (game mechanics and feature wise), and rift went f2p they can do the same if they release on consoles or even better, its only the title of the franchize that draws the crowds at this point
and best doesnt mean how popular it is or will be, "best" is all about the games' core features and mechanics it is built on imo
i mean... damn i swore it wouldnt come to this..... look at WoW i dont think its the best mmo and it still has over 10 million players THERE I SAID IT I AM SOOOO SORRY
shit cant become pure gold no matter how much gold you eat, at best you find some small nuggets here and there but shit is still shit
or should i say "manure" how strict is the forum policy on foul language i wonder
no scratch that, the term "best" is what you consider is the best there is no absolute everyone has their opinions no one can come and say to you THIS IS THE BEST LOVE IT AND BOW DOWN TO IT GIVE ME MONEY i mean.. they can, but do you take their word for it and do what they say without a second thought?
After playing the 2.0 beta i have come to the conclusion that its the same shit as 1.0 just in a prettier wrapping.
Still horrible animations, combatsystem can be compared to Ninja turtles on NES, server lantency from hell, i mean do they use 386DX machines as servers. They even destroyed the good feeling of playing MMO with great music, cause now there is close to no music. Oh and lets not forget the versatile amount of skills you get. Conjurer=stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone
I dont hate the game, i love FF, just hate the fact that they destroyed it AGAIN
After playing the 2.0 beta i have come to the conclusion that its the same shit as 1.0 just in a prettier wrapping.
Still horrible animations, combatsystem can be compared to Ninja turtles on NES, server lantency from hell, i mean do they use 386DX machines as servers. They even destroyed the good feeling of playing MMO with great music, cause now there is close to no music. Oh and lets not forget the versatile amount of skills you get. Conjurer=stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone
I dont hate the game, i love FF, just hate the fact that they destroyed it AGAIN
I have read this same post in more then one thread from you. Are you trolling? If you hate the game what is your point in posting it repeatedly?
After playing the 2.0 beta i have come to the conclusion that its the same shit as 1.0 just in a prettier wrapping.
Still horrible animations, combatsystem can be compared to Ninja turtles on NES, server lantency from hell, i mean do they use 386DX machines as servers. They even destroyed the good feeling of playing MMO with great music, cause now there is close to no music. Oh and lets not forget the versatile amount of skills you get. Conjurer=stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone
I dont hate the game, i love FF, just hate the fact that they destroyed it AGAIN
I have read this same post in more then one thread from you. Are you trolling? If you hate the game what is your point in posting it repeatedly?
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Oh ffs.. anyway OP,I stopped reading after greatest MMO since WoW because I hate that 'game' with a passion. Yes i am in a negative mood but come on? where is the great mmo?
You could say the same about WoW.
They didn't bring anything innovative to the table and copied other previous MMORPGs like Everquest and Asheron's Call. Actually they left a lot of great social-aspects OUT of the equation. Such as player-housing, a player-dependant economy and just an overall... Community that exists outside the realms of putting guilds on a pedastal to enforce raiding or making pre-made PVP groups for arenas.
Honestly - We haven't had anything innovative to the Genre at all, since Sandbox MMOs(The Original MMORPGs) were destroyed by Blizzard's Themepark MMORPG. In which almost every MMORPG since then has been copying. Excluding indie games like Darkfall and EVE Online, which are ironically enough both sandbox MMOs.
While I'm sure the game will do well because its a Final Fantasy game and its not a trainwreck like the last iteration, There are probably about half a dozen MMOs out right now that are better than this game.
At the end if the day, your going to keep the FF fans and lose everyone who isn't a major FF fan. There is simply no reason a non-FF fan would stick with this game when he has better options.
Indeed, and because there arent better options they will stay
Here is a list of games that are better than FF XIV and already released, and most of them have solid F2P steups.
World of Warcraft
The Secret World
Tera
Guild Wars 2
Age of Conan
Aion
That's not even touching the non NA/EU titles like Blade of Souls or the sandbox titles like Eve.
O please the only good ones on that list, wow,aoc,aion are old games the other ones dont come close to Ffxiv
WoW is a titan that's fluid engine and UI absolutely shames the clunky mess that FF XIV uses, despite being released nearly a decade ago. Aion is a monster in Korea, and isn't even 4 years old ; and still has better character models than FF XIV (although it's environments and particle effects don't hold a candle).
Both games combat systems shit all over FF XIV, and Aion isn't even a particularly good combat game. God forbid we even bring up Tera or GW2's combat system, which absolutely demolish it (while also having better graphics).
I have to agree with the OP.
Some won't see it, but there is something about this game that is so good that it makes it almost impossible to stop playing. Other MMO's I usually force myself to get on and play, with FFXIV I have to force myself to STOP playing.
You didnt played FFXIV seems. I played all these games, Tera, GW2, Aion... First, u CANT compare an Action RPG like Tera and GW2 to an Classic RPG like FFXIV, because is like comparing apples with oranges. You like Action RPG? fine, i dont. I love to play Action games, Bioshock, F.E.A.R, Battlefield, etc and i love to play RPG... but in my experience, MMOARPG are shit.
And about graphics.. oh camon, i played all these games at Max settings and FFXIV won to all them. And more options is different than better character models... Aion models are obviusly worse than FFXIV models, it have more options to create your character.. thats true, but are not better models when we talk about quality.
Fact that you think WOW is the Holy Grail makes this story a but, unbelievable.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
U clearly havent played the game, as ffxiv has a great engine and works really fluent.
As to graphics it easily outwins all other game, so again please play the game befor u criticise.
And finaly it is a different combat system indeed then tera and gw2 so u cant really compare that.
And besides this game is so much more fun then tera and gw2 as a whole.
It's a good engine, it's not a great engine. Wow is a great engine. Gw2 is a great engine. Tera is a great engine.
graphics. No...just no. It does not beat GW2 or Tera. You are absolutely nonsensical to claim that. The character models don't stand up to either game.
Sure I can compare combat systems, this is a 2013 game using a combat system style of GCD that has been largely abandoned. On top of that, it's pacing is awful... Which makes me wonder if its because the engine can't handle the additional clock cycles of speeding the games pacing up. Otherwise why keep it so god awful slow? The "FF feel" nonsense doesn't cut it for me.
as a whole, fun starts and ends with combat... This game has boring combat. It may be a better fleshed out game, but it is not a more fun game, as an example...Tera is a god damn blast to play, it's just shallow outside of its combat system. EQ2 is a ridiculously deep game, but its combat is mediocre and this it isn't that fun.
Yes, I can compare them. They're both MMOs and their both combat systems. You don't get a free pass because your game chose a dated combat system.
Second, aRPGs failures have nothing to do with their combat, with the exception of maybe GW2 which decided to abandon the trinity (which is more of a design choice than a combat system failure). If you take a game like Tera and you slap TSW quality storyline, questing, and voice acting on it...man that would be awesome. The problem is all the companies that seem to be able to produce the really good combat systems with slick animations and graphics; are absolutely awful when it comes to questing and storyline systems.
If you're trying to honestly tell me that you think tab>target combat is better than aRPG combat though... you might as well tell me it's your opinion that dog shit tastes better than cheetohs.
Draemos looking at your posts i have the solution for you,
You stick to fps games and we continue enyoing our mmorpgs.
Too late. I already have those.
"If you're trying to honestly tell me that you think tab>target combat is better than aRPG combat though... you might as well tell me it's your opinion that dog shit tastes better than cheetohs. "
For me tab>target is much better then action one in tera you know why? because i prefer classic mmo thats for first and for 2nd combat in tera is piece of shit and now watch out: FOR ME, you might prefer it and im ok with that.
I dont have nothing against idea of action oriented combat but corrent tech used in tera for me and i guess for many others is just not that good. Sure im not saying its not innovating but for now its just "meh".
Edit: i love ui in ARR its one of the best iv ever seen+build on threat meter is very subtle and hard to notice at first.
Given the nature of The Living Story and how it works....P2P hands down. GW2 updates always total the current content patch only.
Who cares what content was added last month. OK, sure it was great fun for all. But it's gone. The only content in GW2 right now is one small patch. Next week, the only content in GW2 will be one small patch. Next month, the only content available in GW2 will be one small patch. In 3 months............(see where this is going)? To be fair, this also assumes said P2P game doesn't run a string of fail patches one after the other.
how about you take those fanboy glasses off your eyes, yeah sure whatever i will not play it and never will and all the players will drop it the minute they get bored to the antiquated combat style only final fantasy fan boys will remain when they realise....wait...what...havent i played this before Ö_Ö huh did i really drop "that" for "this"???
yeah sure it might have a few features and mechanics that arent seen in other mmorpgs but it is not enough to keep the player base happy when thats all it has they only fixed the broken game and put some make up on it now dont get me wrong this probably is the best mmorpg in the last 8 years but even at its best it reaches the quality of rift (game mechanics and feature wise), and rift went f2p they can do the same if they release on consoles or even better, its only the title of the franchize that draws the crowds at this point
and best doesnt mean how popular it is or will be, "best" is all about the games' core features and mechanics it is built on imo
i mean... damn i swore it wouldnt come to this..... look at WoW i dont think its the best mmo and it still has over 10 million players THERE I SAID IT I AM SOOOO SORRY
shit cant become pure gold no matter how much gold you eat, at best you find some small nuggets here and there but shit is still shit
or should i say "manure" how strict is the forum policy on foul language i wonder
no scratch that, the term "best" is what you consider is the best there is no absolute everyone has their opinions no one can come and say to you THIS IS THE BEST LOVE IT AND BOW DOWN TO IT GIVE ME MONEY i mean.. they can, but do you take their word for it and do what they say without a second thought?
so mad it's funny lol
After playing the 2.0 beta i have come to the conclusion that its the same shit as 1.0 just in a prettier wrapping.
Still horrible animations, combatsystem can be compared to Ninja turtles on NES, server lantency from hell, i mean do they use 386DX machines as servers. They even destroyed the good feeling of playing MMO with great music, cause now there is close to no music. Oh and lets not forget the versatile amount of skills you get. Conjurer=stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone, stone
I dont hate the game, i love FF, just hate the fact that they destroyed it AGAIN
I have read this same post in more then one thread from you. Are you trolling? If you hate the game what is your point in posting it repeatedly?
You clearly didnt read anything in my post
here is a link to the success of FFXIV ARR launch