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66% of players support a wipe after week survey poll.

BraindomeBraindome Member UncommonPosts: 959

New exploits have surfaced since Caturday. 5 to be exact, it is continuing to be an utter disaster and after having a poll on the forums for over a week 66% support a full wipe.

The importance isn't if they wipe or not, the importance is the amount of legit players they have already lost, but then again who cares about being legit these days right?

66%:

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?264451-Full-wipe-remarks

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  • Squeak69Squeak69 Member UncommonPosts: 959

    is this still being talked about, look they said they are not whipeing, give it a rest if you dont like the game dont play it.

    ill give it a try once beta is over (if ever) and see what all the hubbris is about :p

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157

    Yes as I have said they should fix the exploits then fully wipe the game but knowing perfect world they won't wipe which is why  I will not recommend this game to anyone or play it myself as I have stated many times to friends clan members etc Perfect World in my opinion is just after money they don't care what you think or fixing their games its take it or leave it the way it is same with Nexon, and Gamers First.

    If you really want a good MMO you have to either play a decent Buy 2 Play game like Guild Wars, or pay a monthly fee or its likely going to suck.

  • DemalisDemalis Member Posts: 134
    Originally posted by Squeak69

    is this still being talked about, look they said they are not whipeing, give it a rest if you dont like the game dont play it.

    ill give it a try once beta is over (if ever) and see what all the hubbris is about :p

    Thanks for reminding me to uninstall, lol, I forgot I even tried it out.

  • DauntisDauntis Member UncommonPosts: 600
    That should read 66% of the people polled. You cannot say that 66% of the game's population wants to wipe, most of the people playing the game did not vote in the poll. There are a lot more people earning their stuff or paying for it legit than are not, so why punish 100% of people for what maybe 10% of people are doing? How does that make any sense? 

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  • Pandaman102Pandaman102 Member Posts: 94
    66% vs 71% from last time? How many people voted this time? It sounds like we can actually infer how many people quit or were banned over the fallout from the AH fiasco.
  • XirikXirik Member UncommonPosts: 440

    A poll that is barely holding 50%  and is less then 0.1% of the user base.

     

    1500 people saying they want a wipe doesn't mean the hundred thousand people playing do as well.

    "You have some serious mental issues you may need to seek some help for. There are others who post things, but do not post them in the way you do. Out of every person who posts crazy shit in this forum, you have some of the craziest and scariest" -FarReach

  • Pandaman102Pandaman102 Member Posts: 94
    Originally posted by Xirik

    A poll that is barely holding 50%  and is less then 0.1% of the user base.

     

    1500 people saying they want a wipe doesn't mean the hundred thousand people playing do as well.

    Has Cryptic actually released numbers of active subscriptions yet?

  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,049


    Originally posted by Pandaman102
    Originally posted by Xirik A poll that is barely holding 50%  and is less then 0.1% of the user base.   1500 people saying they want a wipe doesn't mean the hundred thousand people playing do as well.
    Has Cryptic actually released numbers of active subscriptions yet?

    Active subscriptions? For a Free to play?


    I think you mean concurrent players. And, no, that information will never be released.

  • AnnwynAnnwyn Member UncommonPosts: 2,854

    By no mean do I want to defend Neverwinter or anything, I've not even played it, let alone install it on my computer and do not intend to, but this "66% of players support a wipe" thing raises a question. Out of those 66% who voted in favor of a wipe, how many of them have spent money on the game?

    I mean, who exactly is paying Cryptic and keeping the game rolling? The paying customers. Do these paying customers want a wipe? Now that's a different question. Also, a wipe would entail quite a bit of work from Cryptic (viewing all accounts and reimburse all purchases, etc).

  • MotionsMotions Member UncommonPosts: 4
    Originally posted by Braindome

    New exploits have surfaced since Caturday. 5 to be exact, it is continuing to be an utter disaster and after having a poll on the forums for over a week 66% support a full wipe.

    The importance isn't if they wipe or not, the importance is the amount of legit players they have already lost, but then again who cares about being legit these days right?

    66%:

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?264451-Full-wipe-remarks

    Oh the drama, oh the drama.

     

    THE ECONOMY IS NEVER GOING TO BE FIXED AFTER THE AUCTION HOUSE EXPLOIT! WIPE WIPE NOW!

    3 days after the servers are back up: the AD-Zen rate is lower than ever.

     

    A forum poll says nothing about the playerbase, because the forum mainly consists out of ignorant doomsayers like you that care way too much about things they shouldn't care about.

    It doesn't bother me the sleightest that there's people that exploited T2 gear or have a lot of astral diamonds. They can whatever they want, it doesn't affect me. The economy isn't broken, like you most likely screamed all over the forums if I checked your post history.

     

    Advice for you:

    Don't like the game? Uninstall

    Don't like that it's not getting wiped? Uninstall

    Don't like PWE/Cryptic? Uninstall

    And after you uninstalled, go find yourself a better alternative to waste you time on, instead of coming on the forums to whine.

  • XirikXirik Member UncommonPosts: 440
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by Xirik

    A poll that is barely holding 50%  and is less then 0.1% of the user base.

     

    1500 people saying they want a wipe doesn't mean the hundred thousand people playing do as well.

    you can't interpret what the non-voters want based on the fact that they didn't vote.

     

    there's nothing scientifical or mathmatically sane about such a claim.

     

     

    thats what I said?image

    "You have some serious mental issues you may need to seek some help for. There are others who post things, but do not post them in the way you do. Out of every person who posts crazy shit in this forum, you have some of the craziest and scariest" -FarReach

  • bezadobezado Member UncommonPosts: 1,127

    They have a few exploits. In this one dungeon you can take your party pull the boss to the water pool and drop off the side so boss follows, then jump back up and he bugs and just stands there taking damage from the damaging water he is standing in. After few minutes he is dead and you don't die, if you duo it with someone then nobody dies.

    You can farm mats from some dungeons because the chests keep re-spawning loot after a minute or so and you can keep looting stuff.

    If you put utility gems on your gear for + gold percentage and get to 8% at least you can go to two areas in game that I know of and kill these mobs that drop 1+ silver at least each, after an hour you get like 50g there.

    Lots pathing bugs to trick mobs bosses still.

    You can trick other bosses in party dungeons and break their scripts by just jumping into either a sarcophagus that is got no top or on other objects. Once they bug you can just kill them without fear of taking damage.

    If you are level 19,29,39,49,59 etc. and you are near end your level you can get your next level then enter PVP and own everyone. For example, if you are level 39 and need 1 kill to level and you queue for PVP before you kill the mob you can kill the mob then enter PVP group and be level 40 and own everyone, not sure why but you are really powerful doing this.

    If you hold spacebar down while mounted and then hold straff D or A then W forward while near edges of maps you can fall through the map and then run freely around inside the map without any mobs and you can see and loot every chest and open anything you want.

    You can trick the game into thinking you are still low level and go back and help others out on party dungeons. Level 60 clearing all those low level party dungeons with a noob is fun.

    Most exploits are caused from PW being greedy and having asinine ideas about how their game should operate. For instance all those instances that are made is advantage to the exploiters who know how use it right. They should of not allowed people to use the same names. It's very easy to hack accounts and trick in game system.

    That is everything I know so far from beta. If you play long enough you will notice these things and also hear about them from other players, most keep the big exploits secret because it's still beta.


    Edit: This is why they shouldn't of marketed the idea they are still in Beta and take peoples money. They should of had the beta and then a clean launch with few bugs and exploits. Taking peoples money right away while it being beta launched is a bad idea, example the AH-AD dilemma. PW is a shit company that is greedy and taking advantage of players by means of addiction.

  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094

     

    In writing a response to this, I have found that I have become very jaded as to the topics we continuously see being posted.  We haven't had many original posts that spark adequate discussion in quite some time other than repeating the same stuff.  Not the fault of the OP or anyone else, but just something I noticed myself getting tired of (whereas I had a high tolerance for it previously).

     

    While I would want a wipe myself, I don't think it's going to happen.  Each day that passes will make it harder and harder to let go, and cause many hurt feelings after they promised there will be no such wipes.  If one were to assert that it's the responsibility of a company to conduct an open beta responsible (and thus put a condition that wipes may be a possibility if something goes wrong), then I would likely agree.  They weren't very responsible with how they handled this.  But nonetheless at this point I'm sure most of us have made up our minds about the game.  We may just be irritating those who enjoy the game and have to see this discussion go on everyday.

     

    :(

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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,239

    Only unhappy players come to the forums to vote in topics like that, thus 66% of the 10% of the player-base that bothers to come to the forums is not a majority vote.

    Honestly, these supposedly game-crushing exploits have had no effect on me whatsoever.  (I sell my drops to vendors and have used the auction house 3 times, across 5 characters, to buy Icons and Talismans for my Companions.)  In addition - and let's be realistic here - the game content is so limited and so set on rails that I doubt many people could be bothered to go through it again. 

  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964
    Originally posted by bezado

    PW is a shit company that is greedy and taking advantage of players by means of addiction.

    But isn't that all the mmo companies main agenda in the 1st place?

    I haven't had many problems personally through PW games, however I know many friends that are having problems with their customer service and in game dilemma's (STO, NWO and CO). I personally haven't been affected yet, but I am treading lightly with this company when it comes to dumping money into their games.

     

  • HellidolHellidol Member UncommonPosts: 476
    Originally posted by Braindome

    New exploits have surfaced since Caturday. 5 to be exact, it is continuing to be an utter disaster and after having a poll on the forums for over a week 66% support a full wipe.

    The importance isn't if they wipe or not, the importance is the amount of legit players they have already lost, but then again who cares about being legit these days right?

    66%:

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?264451-Full-wipe-remarks

    they wont do it, those with all the extra AD and Zen would quit which is anywhere from 10-20% of all players. They will lose players like me asap as wildstar comes out or i get into beta because I was a victim of their bad programming and lost $70.00 worth of stuff with them clearly having zero intent of refunding me or accommodating me because it was their product that malfunction but I lost out on it. The game is going to die really fast because of all the major duping and bugs they have had, but they dont care because they already got your money. Its really sad, I wanted this game to do well I bought both hero and guardian packs o well lesson learned.

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  • rawfoxrawfox Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Neverwinter is nice for what it is.

    Im sure ill play it from time to time because i like the action combat and the grafix are nice as well.

    Im not sure if it will entertain me for long because its a themepark and with themepark games i always feel like a visitor in a bad movie ..

     

    I would not mind if they would wipe the game if it has become odd and imbalanced due to haxxorzz ..

  • bltmebltme Member Posts: 26
    if you want to wipe your arsehole then do it off the forums let's say in the shape of an mmo?
  • Athena_StarfireAthena_Starfire Member UncommonPosts: 213

    I could care less about a wipe as long as I don't have to get to level 15 again to use the Foundry

     

  • SnigerknudSnigerknud Member UncommonPosts: 60

    Some gamers play the "forum" and all us who like the game play the GAME..

    I dont care...dont want a wipe I am not a 14 year old kid who has all the time in the world to level up again in 2-3 days.. I am not even level 60 yet.

     

  • OsmanthusOsmanthus Member UncommonPosts: 105

    The vast majority of players don't even know about the exploits or rollback.   I think forum goers greatly underestimate the illiteracy of the general population.   

    The ballpark for the user ratios I expect is 10% read the forums and .1% post.  

    Anyway, I think if you are worried about wipes and the economy, you haven't really come to grips with what Neverwinter is all about.   The core of the game is Foundry!  D&D is for role-players!  Power gamers are completely out of the loop and have no idea what is going on.    It makes no difference what your gear score is or what dungeons you have cleared, this game is about having fun with your friends generally in dungeons made by your friends.  

  • VaporsVapors Member UncommonPosts: 407

    Ah a poll from 650 players, how do you come on the idea calling pw for this ignorance?

    I just feel someone else is ignorant

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    I play casually. The game is fun in short bursts, which is all I have available to play anything these days. I could care less about the economy or exploits or anything else - I'm not using them, I don't use the AH (holy S*&^ can there be any more different kinds of currencies?) - I just plod along my quest tracker and join queues when I have enough time (15 min Skirmishes - best thing ever).

    If they wipe - meh, no big deal. I don't have a lot of time and no money invested.

    If the don't wipe - meh, no big deal. My character is fun and I would be glad to keep playing it.

    The game is like a donut - you aren't going to be able to live off them, but damn they make for a nice treat from time to time.

    If the player population drops to exactly one - me - I'd still play it, with the same frequency and play time I do now, and once I hit the "end game" and there's no one around, I'd say "Yay - I beat the game" and delete it and move on to the next, like I have with dozens of games that have come before NW.

  • RemainsRemains Member UncommonPosts: 375

    This again... its veeeery unlikely that they will wipe, ever, and thats it.

     

    Why on earth would they? They would have to reimburse every penny everyone spent on the game, which would make people hesitant to spend it again. Even worse when its practically gambling involved: got a jackpot? Too bad for you dude!

     

    They would lose loads of people who couldnt be bothered leveling up again. Lets be honest here: what amazing content is there to get people grinding to endgame again? For some (many?) people its a "play-and-throw-away" game for short-term fun.

     

    The game will likely stutter along with an average amount of bugs and exploits until PWE are in the black thanks to the whales, and soon they will release another game of similar quality. Because, herpderp, thats pretty much what they do..?

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