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  • jimprounerjimprouner Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by Drakynn

    I'm a big don't prejudge a game positively or negatively before you personally try it sort of guy as many here will probably attest.

    But I find it hard myself not to prejudge this one after watching that E3 vidoe,it couldn't of looked and felt more like WoW in that video if it's final shot had been Wildstar...a World of Warcraft Expansion...coming soon.

    Maybe it differentiates itself later on but man....

    I'm saying this as someone who has friends that are interested in playing WIldstar and might be forced to play...damn peer pressure!

     

    You should watch this video it would be much more effective and efficient than me posting how Wildstar isn't a wow clone.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6oVX4jPkSY

  • MindTriggerMindTrigger Member Posts: 2,596
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by MindTrigger

    hahaha awesome. (looking forward to your next edit ~ the irony is thick and sweet)  ;)

    I am glad you enjoyed it.  Maybe one day you will develop the analytical skills to fully appreciate what I posted there. 

    aahahahhah!  (this is too easy)

    A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321

    I come here to make very very subtle troll threads (but once in a while I post something serious) that generally get a huge amount of posts. Thats what this site is for. :D Can't beat them, join them ;) BTW, if you call someone a troll on this site, you get banned and the troll keeps on trolling. Me and nariusseldon make the best team in general section :D I got temp banned for arguing with him and calling him out, but he didn't...so I figured I'd join him

     

    As for Wildstar. It looks like it could be a lot of fun. I like the stuff I see, but I find if I get hyped for an MMO I end up disappointed. Every MMO...no...nearly every game I don't pay ANY attention to, I end up playing for months/years. Exception being Elder Scrolls and Fallout 3....I pretty much can rely on Bethesda for making a good game which I can make better with games.

     

    But the point is, I generally don't look at ANY mmo in development or beta...then when I buy on release I enjoy it far more and last much longer :)

    My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB: 

    https://www.moddb.com/mods/skyrim-anime-overhaul



  • DrakynnDrakynn Member Posts: 2,030
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by Drakynn

    I'm a big don't prejudge a game positively or negatively before you personally try it sort of guy as many here will probably attest.

    But I find it hard myself not to prejudge this one after watching that E3 vidoe,it couldn't of looked and felt more like WoW in that video if it's final shot had been Wildstar...a World of Warcraft Expansion...coming soon.

    Maybe it differentiates itself later on but man....

    I'm saying this as someone who has friends that are interested in playing WIldstar and might be forced to play...damn peer pressure!

     

    You should watch this video it would be much more effective and efficient than me posting how Wildstar isn't a wow clone.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6oVX4jPkSY

    I really didn't call it a WoW clone and nothing in that rant video really is relavent to what I said.It Wildstar may totally differentiate itself at later levels than what was shown at E3 but what was shown had similar animations and art style  to WoW and even the way the NPCs reacted and their speech sounded like it could of been lifted from WoW.

    Now what was shown was apparently a starting zone and maybe Wildstar has game mechanics and systems later on that make it completely different from WoW but from what was shown so far I can't blame people for leveling the WoW clone label on it.

    Until shown proof otherwise people will judge it on what has been shown.

  • XthosXthos Member UncommonPosts: 2,740

    What the hell is Wildstar?  Why should we talk about whatever it is?

     

    Is it a sandbox?  If so, tell me more!

     

  • jimprounerjimprouner Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by Drakynn
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by Drakynn

    I'm a big don't prejudge a game positively or negatively before you personally try it sort of guy as many here will probably attest.

    But I find it hard myself not to prejudge this one after watching that E3 vidoe,it couldn't of looked and felt more like WoW in that video if it's final shot had been Wildstar...a World of Warcraft Expansion...coming soon.

    Maybe it differentiates itself later on but man....

    I'm saying this as someone who has friends that are interested in playing WIldstar and might be forced to play...damn peer pressure!

     

    You should watch this video it would be much more effective and efficient than me posting how Wildstar isn't a wow clone.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6oVX4jPkSY

    I really didn't call it a WoW clone and nothing in that rant video really is relavent to what I said.It Wildstar may totally differentiate itself at later levels than what was shown at E3 but what was shown had similar animations and art style  to WoW and even the way the NPCs reacted and their speech sounded like it could of been lifted from WoW.

    Now what was shown was apparently a starting zone and maybe Wildstar has game mechanics and systems later on that make it completely different from WoW but from what was shown so far I can't blame people for leveling the WoW clone label on it.

    Until shown proof otherwise people will judge it on what has been shown.

    Ok, we got to do it the hard way then.  So, what is so similar to WoW.

    #1

    Art style is cartoon, but different.  If you really want to lump all cartoon artistic styles together, then that is sort of painting with a broad brush (pun intended), but ok I can accept that one.

     

    #2

    Large 40 man raids.  EQ did it first, as far as I know, so it isn't quite fair to give WoW credit for that.  If anything, with the abundance of open world bosses it seems even more appropriate to give EQ credit.

     

    #3

    Action bar - WoW doesn't have a LAS(Limited Action Set).  Maybe you can call this GW ripoff?  Idk, don't have much experience with games with LAS.

     

    So what else? 

    I am shooting maybe 1/3 here, and that is the best I got.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818

    So 6 pages later ..and all you've really done is contribute to the " toxic" side of the community and contributed next to nothing to the side you complained we lacked in the first place. When you made the first post was your objective to lower the bar as far as possible in the hopes that someone else would come raise it ?

    You do know you're as guilty as anyone you've pointed a finger at right ?

  • jimprounerjimprouner Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    So 6 pages later ..and all you've really done is contribute to the " toxic" side of the community and contributed next to nothing to the side you complained we lacked in the first place. When you made the first post was your objective to lower the bar as far as possible in the hopes that someone else would come raise it ?

    You do know you're as guilty as anyone you've pointed a finger at right ?

     

    So you are arguing, I should talk about the flaws of the community in a positive way?  That doesn't sound contradictory to you, and well kinda dumb?

  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd Member UncommonPosts: 1,668
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    So 6 pages later ..and all you've really done is contribute to the " toxic" side of the community and contributed next to nothing to the side you complained we lacked in the first place. When you made the first post was your objective to lower the bar as far as possible in the hopes that someone else would come raise it ?

    You do know you're as guilty as anyone you've pointed a finger at right ?

     

    So you are arguing, I should talk about the flaws of the community in a positive way?  That doesn't sound contradictory to you, and well kinda dumb?

     I guess hints aren't very big in your thought processes? He's saying you prove the adages of 'The pot calling the kettle black", "Takes one to know one". "You should practice what you preach"  ?

    Do any of these ring a bell?  

  • aspekxaspekx Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by jimprouner

    Ever wonder why?  Because people who post here are so insanely negative!  No one wants to hang out with a bunch of melodramatic goths.

    I swear, I don't think most of the people here even like MMOs.  If they do, it is only shitty sandbox games they say they want, but refuse to play.  Then they act shocked when all the new MMOs are themepark.

    your post is insanely negative, you melodramatic goth.

    +1 to Counterspell

    "There are at least two kinds of games.
    One could be called finite, the other infinite.
    A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
    an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
    Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse

  • aspekxaspekx Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    So 6 pages later ..and all you've really done is contribute to the " toxic" side of the community and contributed next to nothing to the side you complained we lacked in the first place. When you made the first post was your objective to lower the bar as far as possible in the hopes that someone else would come raise it ?

    You do know you're as guilty as anyone you've pointed a finger at right ?

     

    So you are arguing, I should talk about the flaws of the community in a positive way?  That doesn't sound contradictory to you, and well kinda dumb?

     I guess hints aren't very big in your thought processes? He's saying you prove the adages of 'The pot calling the kettle black", "Takes one to know one". "You should practice what you preach"  ?

    Do any of these ring a bell?  

     

    too late, you used the word 'adages', i doubt they'll understand now.

    "There are at least two kinds of games.
    One could be called finite, the other infinite.
    A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
    an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
    Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578
    Originally posted by jimprouner

    Ever wonder why?  Because people who post here are so insanely negative!  ...

    ...Who makes this list?  TSW is absolute garbage, ..... The point I am making is that it is insanely negative.  All the games are rated about the same, equally bad, except the one that we don't know anything about.  I assume in time, it will be plunged down to obscurity and mediocrity as well.

     

     

     

     

    hmmm

    A bit of irony in your post

    Also about Wildstar, it just doesn't have a big following yet. Even the Reddit subforum, where the devs are quite active, doesn't have a lot of participation.

  • ArakaziArakazi Member UncommonPosts: 911
    Wildstar dropped down the hype meter after a video was released showing a player going through the quests at starting area. What was shown did the game no favours, it looked like a typical WoW clone.  So maybe, it simply doesn't appeal to the people of this site. Also, don't pay too much attention to the ratings on this site, it's nonsense and most people know it. It weighs too favourably to games with a small but loyal following that are willing to vote their game up. I posted in the past about it, it damages the sites rep, such as it is. But they are sticking with it, but there you go. Just take it for what it is.
  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd Member UncommonPosts: 1,668
    Originally posted by aspekx
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    So 6 pages later ..and all you've really done is contribute to the " toxic" side of the community and contributed next to nothing to the side you complained we lacked in the first place. When you made the first post was your objective to lower the bar as far as possible in the hopes that someone else would come raise it ?

    You do know you're as guilty as anyone you've pointed a finger at right ?

     

    So you are arguing, I should talk about the flaws of the community in a positive way?  That doesn't sound contradictory to you, and well kinda dumb?

     I guess hints aren't very big in your thought processes? He's saying you prove the adages of 'The pot calling the kettle black", "Takes one to know one". "You should practice what you preach"  ?

    Do any of these ring a bell?  

     

    too late, you used the word 'adages', i doubt they'll understand now.

    Signs of age...<sigh>

  • Ubel12Ubel12 Member UncommonPosts: 153
    Originally posted by duggyfr3sh123
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by jimprouner

    Ever wonder why?  Because people who post here are so insanely negative!  No one wants to hang out with a bunch of melodramatic goths.

    I swear, I don't think most of the people here even like MMOs.  If they do, it is only shitty sandbox games they say they want, but refuse to play.  Then they act shocked when all the new MMOs are themepark.

    your post is insanely negative, you melodramatic goth.

     

    Wasn't calling you a goth, just that the community mirrors one.

    Read edit.

    Originally posted by Nadia

    E3 was a month ago

     

    I expect to see more Wildstar discussion w Gamescom in August

    http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/news/wildstar_wednesday_main_events_calendar.php

    There are tons of good communities out there discussing WIldstar, but not this one.  That is why the mods never bother coming here to post, despite the site's huge rep.

    only awful game devs and swindlers come here to post. they all know how shitty it is here. that's why the only ones showing their face here are devs trying to sell a dream and cash in, or the ones who make absolute shit tier games and thus are right at home on these forums. 

    You mean like that way RSI came on here promoting Star Citizen and now have over 13 millions US Dollars for their game? I am not saying they made all their cash here on MMORPG. But I am saying that they were here promoting their game and they are far from crappy Developers. Just a point my friend.

  • jimprounerjimprouner Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    So 6 pages later ..and all you've really done is contribute to the " toxic" side of the community and contributed next to nothing to the side you complained we lacked in the first place. When you made the first post was your objective to lower the bar as far as possible in the hopes that someone else would come raise it ?

    You do know you're as guilty as anyone you've pointed a finger at right ?

     

    So you are arguing, I should talk about the flaws of the community in a positive way?  That doesn't sound contradictory to you, and well kinda dumb?

     I guess hints aren't very big in your thought processes? He's saying you prove the adages of 'The pot calling the kettle black", "Takes one to know one". "You should practice what you preach"  ?

    Do any of these ring a bell?  

    Obviously, but he & now you don't recognize the stupidly of that comment.   I am not being negative, I am merely pointing out the communities negative nature.  If my tone comes off negative, then that is only natural, as I am talking about something negative in nature.
     

    Think about it, how appropriate would it be for someone making a documentary on say horrid elements of WW2, and be seen on screen smiling and giggling?  That isn't the right tone.  You can't convey your message appropriately in such a fashion.  This is what you are suggesting I should do by making the above comment.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843

    All hype died after E3, and after that interview on this site with the lead developer talking about "Telegraphs". No columns though leads me to believe they pulled their ad dollars.

     

    Put all of that together, and you dont hear much about the game anymore.

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578
    Originally posted by bcbully

     

     

    Put all of that together, and you dont hear much about the game anymore.

    meh, a lot of it is that they really haven't put much information for a couple of months. Don't expect much until Gamescom, and then the hype will rise again.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    So 6 pages later ..and all you've really done is contribute to the " toxic" side of the community and contributed next to nothing to the side you complained we lacked in the first place. When you made the first post was your objective to lower the bar as far as possible in the hopes that someone else would come raise it ?

    You do know you're as guilty as anyone you've pointed a finger at right ?

     

    So you are arguing, I should talk about the flaws of the community in a positive way?  That doesn't sound contradictory to you, and well kinda dumb?

     I guess hints aren't very big in your thought processes? He's saying you prove the adages of 'The pot calling the kettle black", "Takes one to know one". "You should practice what you preach"  ?

    Do any of these ring a bell?  

    Obviously, but he & now you don't recognize the stupidly of that comment.   I am not being negative, I am merely pointing out the communities negative nature.  If my tone comes off negative, then that is only natural, as I am talking about something negative in nature.
     

    Think about it, how appropriate would it be for someone making a documentary on say horrid elements of WW2, and be seen on screen smiling and giggling?  That isn't the right tone.  You can't convey your message appropriately in such a fashion.  This is what you are suggesting I should do by making the above comment.

    Dear genius

    Instead of adding to the negative posts, make a positive post about wildstar and ignore the trolls. Keep it on topic by only responding to worthwhile posts and ignore the rest.

    Try and fix the problem as YOU see it, don't try and make it worse. If you're only interested in being another one of the negative trolls...you can go back to whatever bridge you can out from under we have lots already thanks.

    Your hero

    Damon.

  • GrailerGrailer Member UncommonPosts: 893
    People are tired of grinding levels to raid for gear knowing they cant keep up with content so you get sick of game after a few months. We need something new and different. Hopefully EQNext does that or some other big company that has the money to bring us next gen mmo
  • jimprounerjimprouner Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by bcbully

    All hype died after E3, and after that interview on this site with the lead developer talking about "Telegraphs". No columns though leads me to believe they pulled their ad dollars.

     

    Put all of that together, and you dont hear much about the game anymore.

    What on earth are you talking about?  We have known about telegraphs since like 2011.   It has always been a core game mechanic.

     

    No columns where?   They are doing what every game dev does at this point.  They are going to game conventions, and letting people play the game.  Some people and companies play, and write articles about it.  Of which, there are tons for WS up.

     

    Hear tons about it, just not here due to the toxic community.  Even the game devs of WS, who are very vocal on fansites, avoid this place like the plague.

  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd Member UncommonPosts: 1,668
    Originally posted by jimprouner

    Obviously, but he & now you doesn't recognize the stupidly of that comment.   I am not being negative, I am merely pointing out the communities negative nature.  If my tone comes off negative, then that is only natural, as I talking about something negative in nature.
     

    Think about it, how appropriate would it be for someone making a documentary on say horrid elements of WW2, and be seen on screen smiling and giggling?  That isn't the right tone.  You can't convey your message appropriately in such a fashion.

    "Because people who post here are so insanely negative!  No one wants to hang out with a bunch of melodramatic goths, and the same applies here."

     This to you is simply discussing the negative aspect of this community? Our comments aren't as laced with as much 'stupidity' as your tone.

    The fact you cannot convey anything negative in a neutral and mature way rather displays your inability to have a good rapport. 

    As per your own analogy, it's like you're trying to make a documentary on the bad effects of smoking but only showing it to tabacco companies...how strange and inappropriate is that?

  • GanksinatraGanksinatra Member UncommonPosts: 455
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by Arcticnoon
    Another note, having only been on this site for a few days you wouldn't know this... But Wildstar was the #1 hyped game on this site for weeks. That is until people got their hands on it at E3. Its has been falling steadily since and people are less inclined to talk about games they don't have much hope for or remind them of the closest thing to Wow since... Wow.

    No, I didn't know that, but I had a good guess something like that was going on.  That was what I was implying in my OP.  EQnext is only #1 because there isn't any, or much, info about it out. 

    Also, I am assuming it was mostly the same people who put TSW as #1 that kept down rating Wildstar, so lets just say I don't put any sort of credibility in that list.

    EQNext is #1 because it's EQ. Again, this site is for MMO purists, most of whom had an amazing time playing either one of the Everquests (and some playing EQ Adventures). Wildstar was hyped to #1 for a long time until the game actually got played with at E3, then the game tanked. Hard. It is a WoW clone, all the way down to the cartoony graphics and quest hub, hand holding leveling experience. So to you I say "Perhaps your game isn't worth talking about". Ever think that maybe the problem isn't with several other people, that the common denominator is YOU?

  • jimprounerjimprouner Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    Dear genius

    Instead of adding to the negative posts, make a positive post about wildstar and ignore the trolls. Keep it on topic by only responding to worthwhile posts and ignore the rest.

    Try and fix the problem as YOU see it, don't try and make it worse. If you're only interested in being another one of the negative trolls...you can go back to whatever bridge you can out from under we have lots already thanks.

    Your hero

    Damon.

    That is a good idea, except I don't plan on staying.  I might pop in from time to time to post info or something though.  Sorry, but I don't have the willpower to convert the goth kids into productive members of society.  Maybe you do, and I wish you the best of luck.

  • jimprounerjimprouner Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by Ganksinatra
    Originally posted by jimprouner
    Originally posted by Arcticnoon
    Another note, having only been on this site for a few days you wouldn't know this... But Wildstar was the #1 hyped game on this site for weeks. That is until people got their hands on it at E3. Its has been falling steadily since and people are less inclined to talk about games they don't have much hope for or remind them of the closest thing to Wow since... Wow.

    No, I didn't know that, but I had a good guess something like that was going on.  That was what I was implying in my OP.  EQnext is only #1 because there isn't any, or much, info about it out. 

    Also, I am assuming it was mostly the same people who put TSW as #1 that kept down rating Wildstar, so lets just say I don't put any sort of credibility in that list.

    EQNext is #1 because it's EQ. Again, this site is for MMO purists, most of whom had an amazing time playing either one of the Everquests (and some playing EQ Adventures). Wildstar was hyped to #1 for a long time until the game actually got played with at E3, then the game tanked. Hard. It is a WoW clone, all the way down to the cartoony graphics and quest hub, hand holding leveling experience. So to you I say "Perhaps your game isn't worth talking about". Ever think that maybe the problem isn't with several other people, that the common denominator is YOU?

    That might make sense if it was limited to WS.  That isn't the case though.

     

    EDIT:  Also, read my other posts.  WIldstar is not a WoW clone.  They are very very different.

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