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hpet urban legend!

drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

ok a test called  :wintimertester is going around claiming that hpet is better then invariant tsc etc!

its not!yes I know people will say but the number is higher!

trust me I tested!A LOT!

and my two cent?let intel processor handle things they are way better ms will ever be!

so disable hpet in both bios and os(the later via bcdedit)make sure netdma is enabled (for rss)

and make sure anything realted to offloading is disabled (no compatible with some other stuff .

don't be surprised here everything will look way more proper!my hunch?basicly I believe window cannot keep up with the processor .and with invariant tsc ?who would care

 

if you aren't using a cpu that do invariant tsc ?ignore this whole post!

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    OK !my system by default disable hpet!(in os)it would mean when I install os, I first need to disable hpet so windows and everything around use same timer right?(not at home so I can't test.but I feel this would be logic.)men if I am right this will Answer a lot of question lol.but then badly set bios out of the box happen all the time (sadly)I ask because since I disabled hpet everything is in sync.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    *gets out popcorn*

    I love these posts.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    *gets out popcorn*

    I love these posts.

    Indeed.

    He did better with the first post and actually had some spacing. Downhill again with the 2nd post tho o.O

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    Any plan on answermm!my question remain unanswered.I cant explain in 144 char.if I fell I miss some part of info by deduction. I can't explain the way to control pit,hpet in bios (maybe even MSI)
    That is exactly the question I ask.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    When I think of Urban Legends, there are a lot of various stories that pop into my mind. The nearest bathroom stall being the cleanest, Richard Gere and rodents, vampires in general, etc.

    I certainly don't think of High Performance Event Timers.

    Your best bet:

    Stop playing with RGB color profiles, stop installing random driver "optimizations", stop using 3rd party non-official drivers for "performance testing".

    Do use the latest 1st party drivers. Do keep them updated.

    The odds of you beating an fully-updated system with default settings with various tweaks and oddball settings is low - not impossible, you can get some performance if your careful &/or lucky, but you probably won't eek out much over the default settings - a few single-digit percent if your lucky &/or careful.

    The odds of you screwing something up and causing more harm than good; however, is pretty high. In fact, I would put it at several orders of magnitude higher at the odds of doing something bad over the odds of seeing any meaningful performance benefit.

    Unless your doing something that requires you to be using a signal tracer and debugging your hardware/software at the electrical level on the wires (at which point a gaming site is really not your best outlet for information - you should be talking to IEEE), I'd say your pretty well wasting your time with this.

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    Go view little Wayne YouTube about caged women.(music)does all singer and video sync with sound (w8 64 bit)mine didn't ,default was supposedly invariant tsc .yet when I enabled itsc everything was in sync.so clearly something was wrong but what?did I need to disable hpet in bios before clean installing w8 ?could be since all this is auto detected if your computer support itsc that is what ms enable MSI is suppodly same so like you say I should be all synced and pretty .I was not .its probably at bios end .anyhow .I all know Friday because I all reinstall w8 after having disabled hpet in bios .I just wiched to know when I disable hpet in bios is pit running or MSI.I don't want anything but itsc MSI and/or msi-x .
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    Should I go back and link all the other posts where you have made strange adjustments to your PC settings?

    How many of those were still in place?

    Maybe you legitimately had a problem with timers - it happens from time to time. But it's fairly uncommon. And given the frequency with which these kind of posts pop up where you have some off the wall setting that "helps PC Performance"... I'll let everyone else draw their own conclusions.

    You think invariant time stamp counters are better than high performance event timers - you may very well be right, or maybe it's just a bug in your particular software or drivers, or maybe it's a result of some other setting being inadvertently off default.

    Without a lot more information and backstory, this post is incoherent and useless at best, to misleading and potentially crippling at worst.

    Citing a YouTube video with synchronization problems may not be the best indication of a very tight timing related problem. That could very well have been caused by network lag, Flash problems, browser issues, or any number of unrelated causes -- even the fact that it "cleared up" once you made some changes doesn't rule out any of those other possible causes. Doing a clean install after making some random BIOS changes also completely invalidates any hypothesis you want to test, because there are going to be hundreds of other factors that go into play with a clean installation, unless you are testing clean installation vs clean installation with just BIOS settings as the variable (which it doesn't sound like you started with).

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    If my system was doing HD like we re spammed do you think I would bother playing with my system?when I go to a store and a consent graphic are looking like HD should look like and I got computer that send me graphic that look like wow in 2004 but at 1920x1080 instead of 1280 x720 .I was thinking its normal its online.I was wrong .75% of the time its at user end especially when your viewing YouTube music.
  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    PS:any know if ms plan to make MSI/x use invariant tsc. (Instead of lapic)in window 10?
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