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Is there a end game gear grind type of thing?
Karaminal
Member Posts: 58
What the title says really, is end game spamming dungeons/raids getting those tokens/marks to get that sweet end game gear?
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I think crafting is going to play a HUGE role in endgame. Especially if there are methods to modify existing gear. Progression got bad in WoW 3.X. I can hope that SQEENIX has realized there is more to an endgame than dungeon tokens for Tier 387 gear.
(And no, that wasn't QL 387, it was hyperbole for the number of tier replacement sets)
The /sarcasm is strong with this one.
LOL
Im serious
OK, Sorry then. But If you look at my previous post, I criticize when WoW went from gear progression to gear treadmil.
I too didn't mind gear progression. It gave a good reason to keep going. When it was reasonable back in Vanilla and TBC WoW.
But after 3.x, it became insanely stupid, and the race was overwhelming. I saw Hunter after Hunter rushing to the AH to buy that tanking rifle that had no DPS stats on it other than the weapon's DPS. When questioned, they'd always reply the same way.
"Gear Score man"
I just had a chill run through me thinking of that time.
dunno
If I can't craft it I won't use it. If I suck, then that's how it is going to be. If it's unplayable, I don't play.
This video shows some armor sets, but it is not really an "endgame" preview as much as just random different armor sets throughout the game including crafting, gathering, seasonal event, and other sets.
Upon reaching 50 or close to it you will likely want to obtain the following armor sets for your various jobs. Roughly in this order, but your experience may vary (you can certainly skip some if you want, and some are better for certain play styles or jobs than others). These are not the only gear sets that drop, but they are the "premium" sets from most content (that we know of at least).
We haven't seen the loot system in action yet, it has been described like this as of the latest live letters:
Players get a limited # of "Need" rolls per week (possibly per content), when you roll Need and lose you are still awarded Tokens which can be eventually turned in for the actual items that drop from an NPC.
These sets are in addition to affixing multiple forbidden melds to HQ crafting sets which in some situations will be better than gear set items (though likely not as powerful as the rarest and highest tier dropped items). Most players at endgame will want to use both crafted and dropped pieces for the best results.
Different items have differing #'s of Materia slots, you can go beyond these but you risk losing the materia if it fails.
http://xivdb.com/?search/materia
Artifact Armor
You obtain these as you do the group portions of your job quests nearing level 50.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game/jobs
Crafting/Gathering jobs also have their own quests and Artifact Armor.
Grand Company Rank Sets
Order of the Twin Adders
http://xivdb.com/?search/Serpent
Immortal Flames
http://xivdb.com/?search/flame
Maelstrom
http://xivdb.com/?search/storm
Darklight (from Aurum Vale and Cutter's Cry 8-man Dungeons)
http://xivdb.com/?search/darklight
Primal Armor sets and Weapons from (likely in this order, but they were not in beta or 1.0 so we don't know how they differ):
24 person Raids, progression raid zones with multiple check points
Crystal Tower
FFIII reference, given the storyline is about the "Warriors of Light" and that is tied into FFIII's storyline as well and this multi leveled dungeon; I'm guessing we will get some warriors of light themed armor sets as well as hopefully unique boss drops that remain relevant.
Labyrinth of Bahamut
Hardest content in the game, best loot in the game at launch.
PvP gear Sets:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pvp+gear+sets+ffxiv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=DeHkUc_FCqjYywG5h4GIDg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=713&bih=426
Unknown itemization for confirmed content:
Beastman Strongholds
EndFATEs such as Behemoth and Odin
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Of course you are.
Why dont you think im serious? Seriously i like achieving new pieces armour/gear that ive spammed a couple of dungs/raids for? Does anyone else not enjoy this feeling?
This.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Yawn, we have had treasure in our RPG's long before your WoW.
Even your precious Guild Wars 2 that was going to revolutionize the way people played RPG's with no gear progression has abandoned that failed and not very well thought out philosophy once they saw how little retention it brought them.
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Great post ty =-)
My 'precious' GW2? you are mistaking me with someone else. So your attempt to hurt me is completely wasted.
And yes we had treasures in RPG long before WOW but WOW is the game that made hamster gear treadmill famous. You know it and i know it..everyone else knows it that FFXIV ARR has been remade to cash in on WOW's formula. Denial doesn't change the reality. When the idea of remaking FFXIV was just in it is infancy, YOSHI was pondering and taking surveys regarding implementing more WOW features into FFXIV.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
As an MMORPG player I define grind as repeating one piece of content ad nauseum until I no longer find any enjoyment in it. Playing through a wide variety of content. Multiple dungeons, guildhests, guildleves, FATE, side quests, class quests, story quests, job quests at any time depending on what I feel like. With things like level sync, and even the duty finder to help facilitate my freedom of choice. That doesn't seem very grindy to me.
Now leveling in 1.0 on guildleves alone, or broken party grinding (or hell even fixed party grinding) I could see how that was a grind. You people are spoiled with the variety of options you are given.
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Failed and abandoned eh? Probably that's why there was an outrage when A.net introduced ascended gears, mind you, only the trinkets pieces, and A.net's stopped adding ascended gears since then, yep, definitely failed.
I'm not a hamster, I play for gear for the same reasons I always did in RPG's. It is fun. You go out you complete a challenge and you are rewarded with some treasure for it. It might look neat, it might have stats I want, it might be an upgrade for something I already have.
I very well might pass it to a friend because they want it. I join groups with complete strangers just to help them get a piece of armor they want. It feels very much like a human behavior to me. I kinda feel bad for people who don't see the appeal of all that.
I'm sorry you sound so angry with WoW and FFXIV. That sounds terrible how Yoshi could do that to a poor infant. What a monster, if only you had been there to save us from him back then. You really put a lot of effort into continually pushing the whole "WoW clone" argument. They seem like pretty different experiences to me. Anyways, I'll be over here enjoying RPG's with treasure in them as I have long before WoW came out, but please continue to tell me how they are all raped by WoW and I'm just in denial about how much of a slave to the man I am.
It is a very compelling argument and I'm almost convinced. I think you just need to call me a few more names and you'll win me over to your perspective.
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Really you don't think they will add any more? Everyone I know who still plays it from time to time certainly hopes they will.
I don't get the outrage. Some people like having something to aim for in their games, I know someone in the past might have hurt you and made you feel bad about not having something in an MMORPG. But not all players are like that. The very existence of desirable treasure doesn't take away anything from you.
Oh well different playstyles I guess. Anyways this game definitely has treasure, lots of gear sets to collect, and lots of progression. If you find those abhorrent then you can avoid them, but if you can't live in a world where others can have them too I guess this really isn't the game for you.
I don't think it does, I never touched BLM AF in beta 3, but had it in my armory since I liked to run around in it from time to time. I never saw it drop below 100% when I NPC repaired all armory gear.
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Names? who called you names bud? i think you are reading things which aren't even there.
And no i don't need to push any 'WOW clone' argument because that is what FFXIV it is when it comes to its end game. The experince you described is similar to WOW's raiding and the other endless clones which copied it.
I am not angry..this is not how angry individuals type really. Yoshi did what he had to do to bring more players back to FFXIV and the easiest way was to copy WOW's features. I am just calling it what it is.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Isn't everything a "wow clone" now?
I think some people haven't a clue what they are talking about and just like to throw around a tired catchphrase that has become utterly meaningless from overuse.