Really if you don't like Asian style games/anime then this game simply isn't for you. Moe on and find something else. There will always be a crowd that can tolerate it.
There is it, right there. Something people on these forums seem to forget all the time. Not every game is for every player. If cars and swim suits screw it for you, then guess what, find a different game. What I don't understand, and is SOOOO common on this site in particular, is the number of people who complain about the game, say it kills it for them, they are not interested, and moving on, but keep posting in the forum. Just trolling, I suppose.
There are maybe a dozen games on this site I follow, the others I could care less about. I am not overly excited about the race cars, but I can overlook it a bit, especially because I can sale around and blow shit up.
Really if you don't like Asian style games/anime then this game simply isn't for you. Moe on and find something else. There will always be a crowd that can tolerate it.
There is it, right there. Something people on these forums seem to forget all the time. Not every game is for every player. If cars and swim suits screw it for you, then guess what, find a different game. What I don't understand, and is SOOOO common on this site in particular, is the number of people who complain about the game, say it kills it for them, they are not interested, and moving on, but keep posting in the forum. Just trolling, I suppose.
There are maybe a dozen games on this site I follow, the others I could care less about. I am not overly excited about the race cars, but I can overlook it a bit, especially because I can sale around and blow shit up.
I don't know.. really. It's sad. They keep creating games in their head instead of waiting for word from the devs.. and they also look over the fact that it's a Korean MMO and it's not here to suit your WoW/EQ-groomed standards. I mean, shouldn't they be playing their games instead of spending time writing about a game they "swear" they aren't going to play? One of the reasons these forums are a laughing stock.. lol/
Yes, because what the developers want to add to THEIR world is certainly immersion-breaking.
It's sad that everyone here in the west just wants a generic medieval snorefest, and anything that spices that up even a little is considered immersion-breaking and terrible.
Fortunately Eastern developers have some creativity and like to mix things up, as opposed to making their worlds strictly medieval or strictly futuristic, because "That's how it should be".
Hell, even Blizzard do it with WoW, the entire reason I joined Alliance at the start in that game was the fact they have the tram, something moderately modern and interesting amongst an otherwise medieval backdrop. Nowadays they fortunately have all sorts of fun and exciting things like that.
Get over it, people, at least these look to be restricted to leisure activities, something you stick-in-the-muds probably wouldn't even get involved with anyway.
I'm fine with different types of fantasy...the problem with this, however, is that it lacks Verisimilitude.
"Verisimilitude, in a narrow sense, is the likeness or semblance of a narrative to reality, or to the truth. It comes from Latin: verum meaning truth and similis meaning similar.[1] In a broader sense, verisimilitude refers to the believability of a narrative—the extent to which a narrative appears realistic, likely, or plausible (regardless of whether it is actually fictional or non-fictional)."
If you have race cars, then there is no need to have horses. Just put your lance out the window or out the side of your car. But then a car hints at combustion engines. So why are you using catapults and trebuchet and not cannons? The ships have cannons. Why not have a tank then? A motorized moving cannon?
But then why have walls at all...as Europe discovered in the 17th, 18th century, walls are pointless once cannon and artillery come into use.
That is the problem with this silly introduction of more modern elements. Just because one can add something, doesn't make you creative. It's the application of creativity that produces an aesthetic. A hodge-podge of elements isn't creative.
I was looking forward to Archeage....yeah, not so much now.
I'm fine with different types of fantasy...the problem with this, however, is that it lacks Verisimilitude.
"Verisimilitude, in a narrow sense, is the likeness or semblance of a narrative to reality, or to the truth. It comes from Latin: verum meaning truth and similis meaning similar.[1] In a broader sense, verisimilitude refers to the believability of a narrative—the extent to which a narrative appears realistic, likely, or plausible (regardless of whether it is actually fictional or non-fictional)."
If you have race cars, then there is no need to have horses. Just put your lance out the window or out the side of your car. But then a car hints at combustion engines. So why are you using catapults and trebuchet and not cannons? The ships have cannons. Why not have a tank then? A motorized moving cannon?
But then why have walls at all...as Europe discovered in the 17th, 18th century, walls are pointless once cannon and artillery come into use.
That is the problem with this silly introduction of more modern elements. Just because one can add something, doesn't make you creative. It's the application of creativity that produces an aesthetic. A hodge-podge of elements isn't creative.
I was looking forward to Archeage....yeah, not so much now.
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I was gonna talk against your opinion, but nvm. There's way too much immersion breaker with archage and what they're doing is not funny. i proably won't play archage. It seemed interesting, but black desert took his spot.
I'm fine with different types of fantasy...the problem with this, however, is that it lacks Verisimilitude.
"Verisimilitude, in a narrow sense, is the likeness or semblance of a narrative to reality, or to the truth. It comes from Latin: verum meaning truth and similis meaning similar.[1] In a broader sense, verisimilitude refers to the believability of a narrative—the extent to which a narrative appears realistic, likely, or plausible (regardless of whether it is actually fictional or non-fictional)."
If you have race cars, then there is no need to have horses. Just put your lance out the window or out the side of your car. But then a car hints at combustion engines. So why are you using catapults and trebuchet and not cannons? The ships have cannons. Why not have a tank then? A motorized moving cannon?
But then why have walls at all...as Europe discovered in the 17th, 18th century, walls are pointless once cannon and artillery come into use.
That is the problem with this silly introduction of more modern elements. Just because one can add something, doesn't make you creative. It's the application of creativity that produces an aesthetic. A hodge-podge of elements isn't creative.
I was looking forward to Archeage....yeah, not so much now.
That is perhaps one of the most compelling arguments I've read against the cars .. /applaud
Although immersion can only happen if you let it happen. If you keep relating what you see back to what you know, that is immersion breaking. To really get into the spirit of a game, sometimes you just have to sit back and accept that this is a believable world, and in the context of your character, this is the only world they know. Nobody invented tanks (yet) .. although cannon on carts do exist.
If you take floating islands in WildStar too seriously for instance, you might start thinking about using other floating islands as projectiles to destroy an entire enemy city ... or wonder why they use such barbaric weapons when they can obviously manipulate physics, space, and time so efficiently. Ships, anti-gravity .. why even bother having ground battles? The Crossbow Project will work nicely (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTx_qTwQqjU), Real Genius ftw!
And why was that Tram ride in WoW so short when it covered so much territory .. even if you jumped off the Tram and walked it, the trip was still shorter .... and why did the track go the completely wrong way from the area you ended up in ... track was East / West .. but you really went North / South ?? immersion breaking :P ... or you just ignore stuff and roleplay that it makes sense somehow.
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There is it, right there. Something people on these forums seem to forget all the time. Not every game is for every player. If cars and swim suits screw it for you, then guess what, find a different game. What I don't understand, and is SOOOO common on this site in particular, is the number of people who complain about the game, say it kills it for them, they are not interested, and moving on, but keep posting in the forum. Just trolling, I suppose.
There are maybe a dozen games on this site I follow, the others I could care less about. I am not overly excited about the race cars, but I can overlook it a bit, especially because I can sale around and blow shit up.
I don't know.. really. It's sad. They keep creating games in their head instead of waiting for word from the devs.. and they also look over the fact that it's a Korean MMO and it's not here to suit your WoW/EQ-groomed standards. I mean, shouldn't they be playing their games instead of spending time writing about a game they "swear" they aren't going to play? One of the reasons these forums are a laughing stock.. lol/
Yes, because what the developers want to add to THEIR world is certainly immersion-breaking.
It's sad that everyone here in the west just wants a generic medieval snorefest, and anything that spices that up even a little is considered immersion-breaking and terrible.
Fortunately Eastern developers have some creativity and like to mix things up, as opposed to making their worlds strictly medieval or strictly futuristic, because "That's how it should be".
Hell, even Blizzard do it with WoW, the entire reason I joined Alliance at the start in that game was the fact they have the tram, something moderately modern and interesting amongst an otherwise medieval backdrop. Nowadays they fortunately have all sorts of fun and exciting things like that.
Get over it, people, at least these look to be restricted to leisure activities, something you stick-in-the-muds probably wouldn't even get involved with anyway.
I'm fine with different types of fantasy...the problem with this, however, is that it lacks Verisimilitude.
"Verisimilitude, in a narrow sense, is the likeness or semblance of a narrative to reality, or to the truth. It comes from Latin: verum meaning truth and similis meaning similar.[1] In a broader sense, verisimilitude refers to the believability of a narrative—the extent to which a narrative appears realistic, likely, or plausible (regardless of whether it is actually fictional or non-fictional)."
If you have race cars, then there is no need to have horses. Just put your lance out the window or out the side of your car. But then a car hints at combustion engines. So why are you using catapults and trebuchet and not cannons? The ships have cannons. Why not have a tank then? A motorized moving cannon?
But then why have walls at all...as Europe discovered in the 17th, 18th century, walls are pointless once cannon and artillery come into use.
That is the problem with this silly introduction of more modern elements. Just because one can add something, doesn't make you creative. It's the application of creativity that produces an aesthetic. A hodge-podge of elements isn't creative.
I was looking forward to Archeage....yeah, not so much now.
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I was gonna talk against your opinion, but nvm. There's way too much immersion breaker with archage and what they're doing is not funny. i proably won't play archage. It seemed interesting, but black desert took his spot.
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That is perhaps one of the most compelling arguments I've read against the cars .. /applaud
Although immersion can only happen if you let it happen. If you keep relating what you see back to what you know, that is immersion breaking. To really get into the spirit of a game, sometimes you just have to sit back and accept that this is a believable world, and in the context of your character, this is the only world they know. Nobody invented tanks (yet) .. although cannon on carts do exist.
If you take floating islands in WildStar too seriously for instance, you might start thinking about using other floating islands as projectiles to destroy an entire enemy city ... or wonder why they use such barbaric weapons when they can obviously manipulate physics, space, and time so efficiently. Ships, anti-gravity .. why even bother having ground battles? The Crossbow Project will work nicely (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTx_qTwQqjU), Real Genius ftw!
And why was that Tram ride in WoW so short when it covered so much territory .. even if you jumped off the Tram and walked it, the trip was still shorter .... and why did the track go the completely wrong way from the area you ended up in ... track was East / West .. but you really went North / South ?? immersion breaking :P ... or you just ignore stuff and roleplay that it makes sense somehow.
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.