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SE forbids publishing FFXIV videos?
Astraeis
Member UncommonPosts: 378
Is this true?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybJr3SDB42Y&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ&index=2
Link to said rules:
http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5382&la=1&tag=authc
It seems to be true.
It takes one to know one.
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Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Cant blame them.. these YouTube celebs do make fortune without paying the rights holders a single euro.
"When showing gameplay, you may not replace the FFXIV music with third party music"
What?? BS!
It's not like they're sharing the game via download.
It's their game once they bought it, it's their right to show it to whom ever they please and if they make a buck out of it, because of youtube/twitch, all the better.
It does mention that for commercial bases So non-profiteering (those that don't have shitty adds on their videos) youtubers should be safe to upload their videos.
Basic game EULA:
LICENSE. Subject to this Agreement and its terms and conditions, Licensor hereby grants you the nonexclusive, non-transferable, limited right and license to use one copy of the Software for your personal non-commercial use for gameplay on a single computer or gaming unit.
I don't know. I think those YouTube celebs are advertising the video games they show. But I do not know whether this rule would carry any weight in a lawsuit either.
I do know this is not a smart move.
It takes one to know one.
Yeah, i got that. It's still up to you whether you growel at the feet of some text or not.
When i pay for something, it's mine to do as i please, period.
They are not only restricting youtube videos, they also restrict you from streaming any content if you monetize your stream.
AKA any streamer with subscription button will not be able to stream the game, and any youtube person with more than 1000 subs will not be allowed to make content from FFXIV.
Totalbiscuit covered this topic yesterday in his content patch video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybJr3SDB42Y
It's funny how people these days just bend over and take it, while corporations do as they please.
Problem is that YouTube will also bend over and will listen to SE when they ask to remove videos.
It takes one to know one.
Or, you could simply refuse to take money from youtube(any company proposing to give them money? It is that simple.
Not really, because YouTube would still make money.
It takes one to know one.
Yes youtube makes money, but since they are not the creators of the videos and they didn't directly force those videos to be put there, SE is okay with it. The rules refer to individuals who use/abuse youtube to gain money; it doesn't refer to youtube making money.
No, it is not about who makes the video, but who publishes it and makes money. Normally that would be YouTube and the creator who uses YouTube as a channel for publishing the video and receives some money for it.
It takes one to know one.
You are so wrong, it´s not even funny!
When you buy the game, you own shit! You just own a fancy Box With a CD in it. That´s it!
The Publisher / Game studio owns the rights to the game, the IP and decides if you can play on THEIR servers or not!
Everyone is allowed to post youtube videos all over the internet!
The only thing they DO NOT allow, which basically applies to most AAA games from any Major studio, is to publish videos in the PAID subscriber channels on youtube and make Money out of THEIR property without you paying IP rights!
It´s not Square Enix´s fault nor any other Companies fault that Google hasn´t implemented an IP fee charge in their systems.
So again! You are allowed to upload videos to both open Youtube as subscriber channel Youtube, as long as you DO NOT charge Money for it!
I don't agree with your logic. I feel this approach by SE is becoming an all too common abuse of what copyright is about.
These YouTubers aren't making money by reselling a product that isn't theirs. They are making money on their labor. Their time, skill in gaming and entertainment, etc.
If I buy MS Office and spend hours creating a PowerPoint presentation that helps make me money, should that be blocked because I used a tool created by someone else? I'm not claiming that I created PowerPoint, nor trying to resell the program to others, so I feel copyright is being honored. This idea could go for any software, computer, car...anything you buy that helps you get a job done.
In any case, companies should be thankful that these people give them free advertisement that is very effective. These videos are almost always how I make a final decision on whether to buy a game. Now I have to think very hard on whether I want to support a company, like SE, that takes this approach.
Comparing a Powerpoint presentation to someone recording playing a game and charging Money for it is like comparing Apples With Oranges!
It´s the same when you buy a Music CD. You DO NOT own the Music, you own the CD. That´s it! And not allowed to distribute it and especially NOT charging Money for it! You will be breaking so many laws it´s not even funny!
You can upload the Music to youtube and get away With it (as long as it´s not downloadable and artist is clearly credited). But the moment you try to upload it into a PAID subscriber channel, you going to be in so much trouble, you don´t want to find out!
Same thing here.
Every MAJOR Publisher and Artist has a Materials License (IP property) in Place! Every single one of them! Square Enix is not an exception!
Go try upload videos from any high profile (AAA) game from Microsoft, EA, Activision, Warner Bros, Sony or Nintendo in a PAID subscriber channel and you will be infringing the IP and Copyright Laws of said game!
Not a fanboy here (I might not even play FFXIV after the first trial two weeks) but I agree with SE here and wish more companies did the same.
At least now that I'm looking for a FFXIV video, I will see actual gameplay and not a bunch of idiotic seizure-like, crazily edited scenes with some horrible dub step music from some guy who is reminding me to subscribe to his channel and watch all his other videos each 20 seconds.
"Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted.
Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."
Hans Margolius
They don´t! There are plenty good quality videos online from "REAL" fans!
Just like there are already several excellent fansites With tons of information and guides!
By paid subscriber, do you mean people having to pay to sub to a channel, or that the channel is making money off its subs through Youtube commercials for example. If you mean the latter, there are a lot of videos from any of the companies you listed (maybe except Nintendo), being monetized though commercials and from what I understand SE is not ok with this either.
You expand the playerbase by advertising to people who are not "REAL" fans, they don't need to be advertised to anymore.
Exactly!
You can make videos, put them in a "free" subscriber channel and have People subscribe to it. All fine and you won´t be breaking any IP and Copyright laws With that.
You can even advertise your channel in your videos, as long as your channel is "free" and you don´t make any Money of it.
Google´s Youtube advertising. I have no idea how it Works. If it´s forced and only Google making Money of it. Then you are not breaking the IP and Copyright laws. As it´s out of your hands.
If Youtube advertising is something you can enable yourself in your videos and make Money from it via Google (like Google´s AdSense). then YES! You will be breaking the IP and Copyright laws.
You have to dissable it for these videos. Probably via creating a seperate channel, free from advertisments.