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labortorylabortory Member UncommonPosts: 26

Hey guys, I have another suggestion thread now :P And that is for a gaming computer!!!!!

 

For prices, I want to know what YOU THINK is affordable to be buying a gaming PC. (However please don't give me options that cost $2000 :P)

I am not one of those people that have to play at max graphics at max fps. I spent most of my 5 years with mmorpg playing low graphics with about 20fps give or take 10, and then of course not having the capability to play other games such as TERA The secret world SWTOR etc

 

Games I would like to play

The Secret World

Wildstar

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Obviously these games would change as new things come up, but I would like to be able to play games with at least medium graphics with decent fps (I honestly don't know what decent fps is, since again I got accustomed to 20 fps) thanks guys.

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  • JacxolopeJacxolope Member UncommonPosts: 1,140

    Honestly, I would be looking at Craigslist right now. The economy is shit (as I am sure you know) and people are literally giving stuff away right now for various reason (food/rent/a night out).

     

    I havnt looked at Computers (i will be soon) but we just picked up a 60inch LG TV thats less than a year old and in mint condition for $300 WITH THE WALL MOUNT!!!!!!!! There are all kinds of crazy deals and I will be trying to buy something every month (including a new PC) now that I know how bad it must be out there....

    I feel bad in a way- But it is what it is and those of us with some cash right now can find some steals.

    EDIT- I just looked an no gaming PCs in my area- But its something to keep in mind (and checking on) if your not in a huge hurry.

  • Vee4240Vee4240 Member UncommonPosts: 42

    I recommend building around these specs:

    i5 3570k OC'd to 4.5Ghz

    8GB RAM (or more, but at least 8)

    and at least a GTX 660 2GB (or the amd counterpart)

    Those core components will but you right in the groove for MMO gaming and some single player titles too. That CPU, if overclocked, will need a decent aftermarket cooler. I went with the Noctua NH-D14 (runs PERFECTLY!). And last but not least you'll need a decent PSU for it all; anything 600w or more will do the job. 

    I just built my dream rig this past July and Im loving every waking second I get to game on it. 

    Good luck and Happy gaming yo!!!

  • labortorylabortory Member UncommonPosts: 26
    I dont have experience with buildin pcs i have almost no idea how to go about what you advised me to do
  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385
    Originally posted by labortory
    I dont have experience with buildin pcs i have almost no idea how to go about what you advised me to do

    1.  Buy the parts from a site like Amazon or Newegg.

    2.  Put them together..

    3.  ???

    4.  Profit!

     

    If you can turn a screwdriver, you can build a PC.  The only part which requires technical knowledge is ensuring the components are compatible with each other.  It would be very hard to make a mistake due to the availability of incompatible components being very limited.  Post your components (with links) on the forum and we can make sure you aren't making any mistakes before you buy.  

  • Vee4240Vee4240 Member UncommonPosts: 42

    ^^ True enough, "if you can turn a screwdriver, you can build a pc."

    Ill make sure to check back daily for updates on your build to help you along with it and to answer any questions. 

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,501

    What is your budget?

    And do you already have peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, surge protector) or do you need those new, too?

  • labortorylabortory Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    What is your budget?

    And do you already have peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, surge protector) or do you need those new, too?

    700-900 

    I already have a keyboard, speakers, monitor. I believe those are all that I have right now.

     

    Also I have no idea what parts to get :S

  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385
    Originally posted by labortory
     

    Also I have no idea what parts to get :S

    Read the thread again.  One person gave a good suggestion of what to buy for performance.

     

    You need:

    1. Motherboard

    2. Processor

    3. Video Card

    4. Power Supply

    5. Hard Drive (preferrably SSD)

    6. Case

    7. DVD Drive (optional if you have an external DVD drive to load Windows)

    8. Case Fans (optional if your case comes with enough)

     

    Post links to the parts you decide to buy and someone can help you out.  If you're still not sure, look on a site which builds gaming computers for you and get an idea of what is good and what isn't.

  • ShauneepeakShauneepeak Member UncommonPosts: 424
    If he is going for a budget build under $1k I wouldn't recommend an SSD sure Windows will feel more snappy and responsive but that's a $100+ that could be spent somewhere else.
  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    buy a console and make sure screen is exactly what the console need!i skimped on screen and my screen isn't 100% srgb for computer and it drop image quality and video quality by a lot!
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,501
    Originally posted by labortory
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    Here you go:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1224799.13-130-637

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113327

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313394

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820248017

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

    Total price:  $853, including shipping and without rebates.

    If you have a keyboard, you probably also have a mouse.  But in case you don't, here's the one I use:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826623004

    Works great and is conveniently cheap.  You'll also want a surge protector, which you might already have, but in case you don't, here's a cheap one:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107188

    Still well in budget even with the added peripherals.

    So where does the "superb" build rank in with this one?

    http://www.logicalincrements.com/

    That build is a little better at a bunch of things.  But you should realize that it doesn't include an optical drive or an OS license, and adding those will push it over $1000.  And that's before a mouse and surge protector, which you may or may not need.

  • labortorylabortory Member UncommonPosts: 26
    What is an optical drive and an os liscense
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,501
    Originally posted by labortory
    What is an optical drive and an os liscense

    Optical drive is basically CD, DVD, and/or Blu-Ray.

    OS = Operating System.  In desktops, this usually means Windows, though there is also Mac OS X and Linux.  Your computer won't boot without an operating system, so you really need one.  Mac OS X is only available on computers bought from Apple, which is completely insensible for a gaming computer.  Linux is free, but most software--and in particular, most games--won't run on it.  So that leaves Windows, which costs $100 for a license.

  • labortorylabortory Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by labortory
    What is an optical drive and an os liscense

    Optical drive is basically CD, DVD, and/or Blu-Ray.

    OS = Operating System.  In desktops, this usually means Windows, though there is also Mac OS X and Linux.  Your computer won't boot without an operating system, so you really need one.  Mac OS X is only available on computers bought from Apple, which is completely insensible for a gaming computer.  Linux is free, but most software--and in particular, most games--won't run on it.  So that leaves Windows, which costs $100 for a license.

    And I'm guessing you don't suggest me leaving out a optical drive? :P

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,501
    Originally posted by labortory
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by labortory
    What is an optical drive and an os liscense

    Optical drive is basically CD, DVD, and/or Blu-Ray.

    OS = Operating System.  In desktops, this usually means Windows, though there is also Mac OS X and Linux.  Your computer won't boot without an operating system, so you really need one.  Mac OS X is only available on computers bought from Apple, which is completely insensible for a gaming computer.  Linux is free, but most software--and in particular, most games--won't run on it.  So that leaves Windows, which costs $100 for a license.

    And I'm guessing you don't suggest me leaving out a optical drive? :P

    If you have one laying around, you can grab that instead.  But it's hard to install an OS from a DVD if you don't have anything that can read a DVD.

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by labortory
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by labortory
    What is an optical drive and an os liscense

    Optical drive is basically CD, DVD, and/or Blu-Ray.

    OS = Operating System.  In desktops, this usually means Windows, though there is also Mac OS X and Linux.  Your computer won't boot without an operating system, so you really need one.  Mac OS X is only available on computers bought from Apple, which is completely insensible for a gaming computer.  Linux is free, but most software--and in particular, most games--won't run on it.  So that leaves Windows, which costs $100 for a license.

    And I'm guessing you don't suggest me leaving out a optical drive? :P

    If you have one laying around, you can grab that instead.  But it's hard to install an OS from a DVD if you don't have anything that can read a DVD.

    Personally i would say that the only Windows OS worth buying at the moment, is windows 7 64 bit, particularly for games. image

  • labortorylabortory Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by labortory
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by labortory
    What is an optical drive and an os liscense

    Optical drive is basically CD, DVD, and/or Blu-Ray.

    OS = Operating System.  In desktops, this usually means Windows, though there is also Mac OS X and Linux.  Your computer won't boot without an operating system, so you really need one.  Mac OS X is only available on computers bought from Apple, which is completely insensible for a gaming computer.  Linux is free, but most software--and in particular, most games--won't run on it.  So that leaves Windows, which costs $100 for a license.

    And I'm guessing you don't suggest me leaving out a optical drive? :P

    If you have one laying around, you can grab that instead.  But it's hard to install an OS from a DVD if you don't have anything that can read a DVD.

    Okay and how is this one:  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1zibm

    Compared to the one you posted quizz

     

  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385
    Originally posted by labortory

    Okay and how is this one:  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1zibm

    Compared to the one you posted quizz

     

    That build has a slightly worse processor but has a slightly better video card.  You probably won't be able to overclock with that power supply if you upgrade your processor to an unlocked one later, but the Haswell CPUs are not able to be overclocked as much as Ivy Bridge anyways.

     

    Your build linked above is missing a solid-state drive.  I highly suggest using one for your OS and games.  The loading time difference is amazing, and the entire system will feel more responsive for everything you do.  The previous poster who disregarded SSDs as not worth it probably never actually used one.  Once you use a SSD, you won't want to go back to mechanical drives.

    I don't know your data storage habits, but that will determine what you need for storage.  If you play less than five games at a time (installed on your computer) and don't download movies, music, or other media, you can get by with a 120GB SSD.  If you want to be lazier about uninstalling games you don't play, a 240GB SSD is needed.  If you download and store any movies, music, or other media, you need a mechanical drive to put those on.  The SSD is for performance, and media files don't need performance to work well.

  • labortorylabortory Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Okay so is the one you posted the best
    And im guessing there is a youtube video on how to put the stuff together.

    I have a question about my monitor. If my computers has bsod probems i can reuse.my monitor and itll work fine right?
  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385

    Problems with BSOD are usually an indication of faulty hardware or an inadequate power supply, but I have never heard of a monitor causing BSOD issues.  You should be fine to re-use your monitor.

     

    What you buy depends on what you value in a system.  If you want a system that can play most games on high settings and would prefer to save some money, you can get by with an AMD FX series processor and a ~$200 video card.  If you want the best gaming performance in the $1000 range, you will probably want an unlocked Intel processor (designated by the K at the end of the model name) with a $300+ video card.  

    Right now, the best choices for the processor are the FX-6350 or the i5-3570K.  You could also use an i5-4670K, but most people report getting the same performance as the i5-3570K after overclocking both.  Speaking of overclocking, it is a good idea to buy an aftermarket cooler if you overclock any processor.  The Hyper 212 Evo is a very good cooler for the price, at $30.  Better ones exist for cooling, but the difference is not much and the price jumps into the $100 range.

    After you have decided on a processor, your other choices are mostly based on how much you want to spend.  Better motherboards offer more features and tend to be more reliable.  More expensive video cards should offer better performance, but post your choice here for review first.  The rest of the components basically have to be compatible and meet minimum gaming standards.

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