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Hexipox

I need a new computer, able to perform very well when EQ Next is out. There is a discount in my local store on this computer below, do you guys, because I don’t know jack shit, think this is a good computer. Awesome? Etc..

 

Lenovo IdeaCenter K450

Processor: 4th Generation Intel Core i7-4770 Processor (3.40GHz 1200MHz )

Memory: 16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz

Graphics: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 650 2GB

HDD: 2TB 7200 RPM

System: MS Windows 8

Price: 938 Euro / 1238 US dollar

 

Can you give me an estimate what you think? Good value for the money? Is this a awesome PC? Etc … Love you already, Thanks community!

Quizzical

What power supply does it have?

What motherboard does it have?

Think those aren't in the specs because they're awesome and the company wants to surprise you?  Or because they're junk and the company doesn't want you to know?

Spending that much and not getting an SSD at all?

And you should also know that the video card is based on the lowest end GPU chip from either vendor (AMD or Nvidia) in either of the last two generations of hardware.

That sounds like one of those fake discounts, where a company will take something that you could buy for $900 elsewhere, claim that it's nominally worth $1500, but that they'll sell it to you for only $1200.

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Even if you did want to buy that computer, it's cheaper elsewhere:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8176880&SRCCODE=WEBGOOKWL&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCs81CjCE&gclid=CJfHjcXYwLkCFYcDOgod4jsAmw

But you can get a better deal on something else.

ray12k

slickdeals.com check there. Well if you live in the USA that is...

Hexipox

Yeah well ... I live in Denmark .. hehe

 

Just need to get a new PC. Good but not the best, whatI'm trying to say is Value for money you know, the middle way - not the best CPU/GFX etc but very good hardware that can easily handle example EQ Next when it arrives.

 

Sovrath

Shouldn't you be waiting until EQ Next is going to be released?

I mean, by the time it is released it's very possible that your computer will be a little out of date. Why not wait until the date is announced and then purchase the parts then? better yet, take the money you would spend on a computer now and put a little bit more into the fund each month.

You might be surprised to see what you can buy when the time comes.

Hexipox

Yeah - though my current computer can hardly run Diablo 3 in lousy mode

drbaltazar

Make sure msi-x(message signal interrupt extended is enabled by default.it isn't?buy another one!plenty of good hardware make sure it is!most of the perceived hpet acpi acpi2 delay is often caused by the fact yes MSI is enabled but set to one .a network card with a single interrupt with all the work its intended to do lol!ya message signal interrupt is what make hpet speedy.no maxed MSI or msix?lol!why did you buy that socket 2011 12 core monster then!

Sovrath

Originally posted by Hexipox
Yeah - though my current computer can hardly run Diablo 3 in lousy mode

Ok that made me laugh.

Ridelynn

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Originally posted by Sovrath
Shouldn't you be waiting until EQ Next is going to be released?

I mean, by the time it is released it's very possible that your computer will be a little out of date. Why not wait until the date is announced and then purchase the parts then? better yet, take the money you would spend on a computer now and put a little bit more into the fund each month.

You might be surprised to see what you can buy when the time comes.

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I agree whole heartedly with this.

EQL will maybe be out this December, but that isn't EQN. EQN may still be years off...

And even if you are meaning this purchase for EQL - wait until it releases to see what it prefers.

Now, if you are just wanting a good gaming computer now, that's fine. But don't go building it with an eye toward some software that isn't released, and no one can possibly have an idea of what it will require to run well. Odds are a good gaming computer today will run EQL reasonably well, but EQN... who knows.

Crazy_Stick

It is now common information with a variety of legit sources you can Google. HERE is one quickly found.  If I were you I would not buy a Lenovo because hardware hacks have been built in to the systems by the Chinese government. Frankly it blew my mind as they produced a few interesting systems.  I simply will not support a company that does such a thing to the average consumer. Find another manufacturer to buy prebuilt from.  

Barbarbar

Originally posted by Hexipox

Yeah well ... I live in Denmark .. hehe

 

Just need to get a new PC. Good but not the best, whatI'm trying to say is Value for money you know, the middle way - not the best CPU/GFX etc but very good hardware that can easily handle example EQ Next when it arrives.

 

It's the usual story of badly matched parts tbh, like a big i7 with a low budget graphics card. It won't do all that it could for those money, far from it actually.

In Denmark (I'm a Dane) there are 2 go to places for prebuilds. TOPDATA for biggest specs for the money, and MM-Vision for abit more quality but still people building sensible.

As is, TOPDATA started using better PSU, and MM-Vision have begun to skimp on the PSU, so what's actually best quality is debatable. 

But for your budget, you should be looking at something like these: 

http://topdata.dk/product.asp?product=9318

http://topdata.dk/product.asp?product=9290 (24 months full guarantee added)

Or this:

http://www.mm-vision.dk/produkter/vispcsystem.asp?action=vis&menu=computer&varenr=99107&type=pcsystem (also comes with 24 months full guarantee added)

They may have sales or good offers that are better than the ones I listed, so browse around abit. They also let you configure to your liking. Getting an SSD in a prebuild in denmark is difficult at this pricerange, as it's close to  entrypoint pricerange.  The MM-Vision got one, but you'll have to add a harddisk for another 100$. You can also add a Samsung SSD to the other machines.

MM-Vision

TOPDATA

Edit: Kroner to Dollar ratio is about 5 to 1

 

Cleffy

DO NOT BUY A COMPUTER FOR A GAME THAT DOES NOT COME OUT ANY TIME SOON!

Srsly (actual proper English spelling now), we have no idea the drain it will have yet or what architectures it favors. For all we know it could be a disaster on an Intel architecture because its built to be run on the PS4.

Cleffy

Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
It is now common information with a variety of legit sources you can Google. HERE is one quickly found.  If I were you I would not buy a Lenovo because hardware hacks have been built in to the systems by the Chinese government. Frankly it blew my mind as they produced a few interesting systems.  I simply will not support a company that does such a thing to the average consumer. Find another manufacturer to buy prebuilt from.  

 China is just copying the US. All PC systems have these workarounds built into them for the US government to snoop, why not the Chinese too?