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A REAL review of FF ARR from IGN

echolynfanecholynfan Member UncommonPosts: 681

For those of you who want an actual review of the game and not jaded uninformed gibberish:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-review

Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.

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  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,705

    Thanks for this. Not sure the jaded...........rubbish comment was necessary, but the review seemed pretty fair.

    But my usual approach to games is try it yourself. One players perfect game can be another's anathema. Try it and make your own mind up - bearing in mind of course that your opinion can change as you progress through the game.

    To me, it's a tried and trusted mmo formulaic game. How much staying power it will have depends as usual on:

    1) how fast players eat up the end progression content v how quickly SE keep the raid/gear treadmill going

    2) the variety of other end game content

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Let me tell you how this will go from here on...

    Any review that get 8 or 9 will be a 'REAL' review

    Any reviews giving it less that that will be jaded and un informed gibberish.

    SWTOR got very high reviews too though... for me personally review means nothing, the real test comes after couple of months for MMOS.

    Staying power of MMO got nothing to do with high reviews.

  • tort0429tort0429 Member UncommonPosts: 297

    Thanks for posting.  I felt it was a fair review, stating both positives and negatives, but like others have said before me, a review is just a review and should never really make up your mind as to weather or not you should try it since everyone's taste is different and requirement for having fun.

    I'm enjoying the game a lot.   FATES seem to be the real problem for many.  I do them more for the Grand Company money rewards, but they give a lot of xp for sure.   

    Like when I played SWTOR, once I got to the end of the story line I found I was done with the game.  I didn't feel motivated enough to continue.  I hope that is not the case with FFXIV and I'm not going to worry about it now, just enjoying the game slowly and not rushing through it I think is the best way.  The real best part, I've made friends in an MMO again.  That hasn't happened in a long time and to me, that is the most valuable part of all.

     

    Cheers!

  • SilacoidSilacoid Member UncommonPosts: 237
    What makes a review REAL?  One that shares the same opinion you've already formed for yourself?
  • echolynfanecholynfan Member UncommonPosts: 681
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    Let me tell you how this will go from here on...

    Any review that get 8 or 9 will be a 'REAL' review

    Any reviews giving it less that that will be jaded and un informed gibberish.

    SWTOR got very high reviews too though... for me personally review means nothing, the real test comes after couple of months for MMOS.

    Staying power of MMO got nothing to do with high reviews.

    I posted this review because I found it to be the most accurate and there plenty of fair criticism to be found in there. The score is secondary.

    And - most of the reviews of this game in this forum HAVE been jaded..uniformed gibberish from burned out vets not happy with anything that comes out.

    Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.

  • echolynfanecholynfan Member UncommonPosts: 681
    Originally posted by DMKano

    IGN reviews - lulz

    http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

    9/10

     

    IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

    FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

    When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

     

     

    Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

    FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

    http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

    Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.

  • echolynfanecholynfan Member UncommonPosts: 681
    Originally posted by Ppiper
    Originally posted by echolynfan
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    Let me tell you how this will go from here on...

    Any review that get 8 or 9 will be a 'REAL' review

    Any reviews giving it less that that will be jaded and un informed gibberish.

    SWTOR got very high reviews too though... for me personally review means nothing, the real test comes after couple of months for MMOS.

    Staying power of MMO got nothing to do with high reviews.

    I posted this review because I found it to be the most accurate and there plenty of fair criticism to be found in there. The score is secondary.

    And - most of the reviews of this game in this forum HAVE been jaded..uniformed gibberish from burned out vets not happy with anything that comes out.

    I disagree. Most of us have played many MMORPG's over the years which give us experience with this genre. I'd prefer honesty over hyberbole.

    I've been playing video games since Pong so I have a little "experience" also and I find that a LARGE majority of people posting on this forum are jaded - and perhaps rightfully so - since many of them have been burned by lackluster MMO's in recent years.

    Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyxthe real test comes after couple of months for MMOS.

    Same here. Not only do you get a more accurate view of the game past the fresh new experience, but you also have a few patches of fixes and updates added to fix many of the initial problems.

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
    "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre

  • Kayo45Kayo45 Member Posts: 293
    SWTOR was a good game. The devs were just retards who could fix anything to save their lives or develope content in a timely manner. That and EA ... they fuck up everything.

    That said, IGN is obvisously geting a huge paycheck from SE. Theyve been promoting the game for a while now. I wouldnt trust their reviews with this game. However, metacritic is still giving it greats scores so..... haters can suck it.
  • hikaru77hikaru77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,123
    Originally posted by echolynfan
    Originally posted by DMKano

    IGN reviews - lulz

    http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

    9/10

     

    IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

    FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

    When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

     

     

    Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

    FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

    http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

    Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by echolynfan

    FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

    http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

    i'd expect December for 2.1 but only making a guess

    https://pay.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1ljule/im_thinking_about_buying_ffxiv_could_someone_give/

    Yoshida is on record stating he plans to release a major content patch for XIV every 3 months or so. If 2.1 came in November, it'd be at the tail-end of the month.

  • RebelScum99RebelScum99 Member Posts: 1,090

    Thanks to the OP for saving me infinite amounts of time researching this game.  Now all I have to do when reading a review is go right to the final score.  If it's a high score, than I know the review is legit.  If it's a low score, than I know the reviewer is a liar and I should dismiss the review.  

    Thanks OP!  

     

     

  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751

    You guys can poke fun but let's be fair.. that guy the other night BLASTED the game.. after 2 hrs.  Seriously, 2 hrs isn't enough playtime for any game.  Even Force Unleashed 2 took 5 hrs to defeat.

    Silliness.

    I dunno.  I had SOMETHING install in the background on my computer this weekend so I had to format it.  (I don't trust things)  I'm just now getting it back to a usable state.  Once I'm back in the game, we'll see how long it keeps my attention.

  • infofrontinfofront Member UncommonPosts: 160
    IGN had been posting FF XIV "Feature Articles" for weeks before launch. These were basically advertisements thinly veiled to look like previews. In other words, IGN was paid off. Also, they give very high scores to just about every game (as long as the developer/publisher has deep pockets).
  • icculus2112icculus2112 Member Posts: 105
    Originally posted by Ppiper

    I disagree. Most of us have played many MMORPG's over the years which give us experience with this genre. I'd prefer honesty over hyberbole.

    I dont see many honest, hyperbole free reviews on this site.  Either positive or negative. 

  • intrinscintrinsc Member UncommonPosts: 98
    Originally posted by echolynfan

    For those of you who want an actual review of the game and not jaded uninformed gibberish:

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-review

    Judging by the words you use you are not posting the link as a way to voice your opinion about the IGN review, but to take a stab at another reviewer who doesn't agree with you. In true angry nerd form you make yourself look like a fool of a fanboy who is out for blood rather than to understand how the human psyche works and the fact that no two people using the same product will ever agree on anything, ever. I read the IGN review and found it to be written by someone who mostly leveled through FATE parties and took part in very little else for a decent amount of time. Hardly enough time to warrant a thorough review and the score it received. IGN is known for this, however, and it won't be the last time they rush through an MMO while reviewing 50 other games(IGN staff did get slashed recently) in order to just get an arbitrary number out that people like you can use as ammo against others.

  • MahavishnuMahavishnu Member Posts: 336
    This looks more like a commercial than like a "real" review. Hm, maybe we have to understand the title of this thread ironically.

    Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.

  • Mr.KujoMr.Kujo Member Posts: 383
    Originally posted by JudgeUK

    Thanks for this. Not sure the jaded...........rubbish comment was necessary, but the review seemed pretty fair.

    But my usual approach to games is try it yourself. One players perfect game can be another's anathema. Try it and make your own mind up - bearing in mind of course that your opinion can change as you progress through the game.

    To me, it's a tried and trusted mmo formulaic game. How much staying power it will have depends as usual on:

    1) how fast players eat up the end progression content v how quickly SE keep the raid/gear treadmill going

    2) the variety of other end game content

    Try it yourself isn't the approach I would recommend. Reviews are there for a reason and are very usefull, if you can find one with some facts about a game, rather than personal opinions. If I hate shrips, I can check if the dish has them... and not waste time, rather than buying the dish and after two bites claiming yep, I really do hate shrips. It is often as obvious in game, if I hate this type of mechanics and this type of gameplay bored me in previous two games I can just avoid wasting my time. Sites like IGN tend to have at least a bit more professional and objective approach than a random person on the forum. So at this point I agree with the uninformed jibberish, since most of player reviews are all about fun and feelings, but completely zero objectve facts that I could use to decide if I want to buy the game or not.

     

    Review is pretty decent. I didn't care about the end rating though.

  • cybersurfrcybersurfr Member UncommonPosts: 168
    I like the game, but posting stuff like this is just asking for trouble. Oh well, carry on.
  • akkedis86akkedis86 Member UncommonPosts: 123
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    Originally posted by echolynfan
    Originally posted by DMKano

    IGN reviews - lulz

    http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

    9/10

     

    IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

    FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

    When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

     

     

    Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

    FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

    http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

    Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

    This!

     

    But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

    And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

     

    On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

    While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

     

    Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

    Let me provide some facts:

    1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

    2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

    3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

    4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

    5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

     

    They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

    If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

     

     

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    Let me tell you how this will go from here on...

    Any review that get 8 or 9 will be a 'REAL' review

    Any reviews giving it less that that will be jaded and un informed gibberish.

    SWTOR got very high reviews too though... for me personally review means nothing, the real test comes after couple of months for MMOS.

    Staying power of MMO got nothing to do with high reviews.

    Agreed.

    I know the general public won't wait that long, but reviews should not be generated until the game is at least 3 months old. When FF is revisited in a few months, it will get mediocre reviews like all of the other MMO's get after a few months after launch. These devs need to find something innovative to keep people engaged in their games. Longevity is the true MMO killer.

  • vzerovvzerov Member Posts: 125
    Originally posted by akkedis86
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    Originally posted by echolynfan
    Originally posted by DMKano

    IGN reviews - lulz

    http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

    9/10

     

    IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

    FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

    When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

     

     

    Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

    FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

    http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

    Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

    This!

     

    But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

    And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

     

    On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

    While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

     

    Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

    Let me provide some facts:

    1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

    2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

    3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

    4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

    5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

     

    They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

    If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

     

     

    Too true, i am still enjoy the game so far, but i can see myself leave this game in 1 or 1.5 months at most.

    There is just nothing to do except for dungeon grinding, or the unblievable retarded fate thing. crafting doesnt mean much, while the crafting system is actually good, but it serves no purpose if other aspect of the game is not interesting anymore. no pvp, what else can i do?

    It does feels fresh for the first 2 weeks, just like gw2 though, maybe still better than gw2, but hard to keep players stay.

  • echolynfanecholynfan Member UncommonPosts: 681
    Originally posted by intrinsc
    Originally posted by echolynfan

    For those of you who want an actual review of the game and not jaded uninformed gibberish:

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-review

    Judging by the words you use you are not posting the link as a way to voice your opinion about the IGN review, but to take a stab at another reviewer who doesn't agree with you. In true angry nerd form you make yourself look like a fool of a fanboy who is out for blood rather than to understand how the human psyche works and the fact that no two people using the same product will ever agree on anything, ever. I read the IGN review and found it to be written by someone who mostly leveled through FATE parties and took part in very little else for a decent amount of time. Hardly enough time to warrant a thorough review and the score it received. IGN is known for this, however, and it won't be the last time they rush through an MMO while reviewing 50 other games(IGN staff did get slashed recently) in order to just get an arbitrary number out that people like you can use as ammo against others.

    I have no problem with people not liking the game for their own personal preferences but I DO have a problem with those who trash the game by misrepresenting features (like crafting sucks..items aren't as good as drops and such nonsense)

    Members of this forum routinely trash games because they don't conform to THEIR standards so I'm offering a positive counterpoint to those. Also - I find many of the members arrogant and very condescending and yes...bitter and jaded.

    Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.

  • echolynfanecholynfan Member UncommonPosts: 681
    Originally posted by akkedis86
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    Originally posted by echolynfan
    Originally posted by DMKano

    IGN reviews - lulz

    http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

    9/10

     

    IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

    FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

    When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

     

     

    Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

    FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

    http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

    Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

    This!

     

    But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

    And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

     

    On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

    While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

     

    Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

    Let me provide some facts:

    1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

    2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

    3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

    4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

    5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

     

    They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

    If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

     

     

    Wow...do we differ in opinion on SWTOR - I find that game to be terrible in comparison to FF ARR and I'm a really big Star Wars fan...so it was doubly tough for me. I think you're wrong about the 1 month die down...I think the game will continue to grow and get better and has the best "potential" of any MMO I've played in years.

    Now...this potential could be squandered if SE fails to come up with a very good, meaningful 1st patch come November/December - and I'll have plenty enough to keep me busy until then. Time will indeed tell.

    Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.

  • icculus2112icculus2112 Member Posts: 105
    Originally posted by akkedis86
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    Originally posted by echolynfan
    Originally posted by DMKano

    IGN reviews - lulz

    http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

    9/10

     

    IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

    FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

    When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

     

     

    Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

    FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

    http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

    Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

    This!

     

    But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

    And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

     

    On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

    While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

     

    Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

    Let me provide some facts:

    1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

    2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

    3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

    4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

    5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

     

    They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

    If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

     

     

    The irony is this is coming from someone who has played SWToR over a year.

    "fact" 1 also applies to SWTOR, which also has dumbed down content.  the GCD may be faster, but that doesnt make the combat any better.

    "fact" 2 also applies to SWTOR.  The class story lines are great but the individual quests are mostly mundane.  The main storyline in FFXIV is good, and the class quests are entertaining (not deep like SWTOR, but thats where the main story is)

    fact 3 (which is the first to actually be a fact) can be a negative to SWtOR because many (I am not one btw) feel that the voice overs for all the mundane quests is terrible and they just spam spacebar.  Its tough to dispute that this was a giant waste of resources.  

    fact 4 (again, an actual fact) is a 'who cares' for most.  And its coming anyway.

    "fact" 5 (not even close to a fact) is especially laughable coming from someone playing SWTOR for a year.  SWTOR featured tiny planets and overall probably less real estate than FFXIV.  SWTOR was also in much worse shape at launch than FFXIV when it lacked things such as guild banks or UI editing options.  these are the signs of an unfinished game.  Also, its not like SWTOR had a ton of endgame content either.

     

    And the only reason SWTOR still exists is its IP.

     

    I dont mean to dump on SWTOR, but this is why people's opinions on this site are mostly garbage.  You are disliking a game for flaws that were even more pronounced in your game of choice.  pot/kettle/black

    And you mention what you consider to be the bad points, but you dont counter it with the good points, such as the crafting system, the armory system, the cities, the fact that the zones actually hold more than 100-200 people, etc

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