Steam, Bungie, Trion, Riot, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Epic games, Nintendo, Bethesda, Sega ... did I miss anyone?
Of those 10 you listed I played 7 of those. And in NONE of them did my Credit Card information get compromised!
But my info got leaked from Good ole SOE. Funny thing is this was in 2011, at that time the last time I played one of their games (Planetside) it was 2008....
All I'm saying is that they should be putting all this energy into other things like stopping hackers in their games and stopping hackers out of them as well... I won't even get into the fact that they need to worry about fixing most, if not all, of their games.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
I agree on the hacker front. After all, an fps won't live long when obvious hacking is happening undisturbed. From my personal experience on PS2, the amount of obvious hackers has dropped considerably (I get to see maybe one per week) and they tend to disappear fast. I'm more worried personally about the non obvious ones.
On a funny note, my most anticipated rpgs are unfortunately not mmos (never would have expected that a couple years ago). X rebirth is coming up soonish and Witcher 3 along with Dragonage Inquisitor will probably continue the tradition started by Skyrim.
Steam, Bungie, Trion, Riot, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Epic games, Nintendo, Bethesda, Sega ... did I miss anyone?
Of those 10 you listed I played 7 of those. And in NONE of them did my Credit Card information get compromised!
But my info got leaked from Good ole SOE. Funny thing is this was in 2011, at that time the last time I played one of their games (Planetside) it was 2008....
All I'm saying is that they should be putting all this energy into other things like stopping hackers in their games and stopping hackers out of them as well... I won't even get into the fact that they need to worry about fixing most, if not all, of their games.
There are probably many different groups and divisions in Sony's structure that handle those different things. These folks aren't responsible for it all, ya know??
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Originally posted by Swids2010 So from reading that article if you say anything negative to another player or about the game your going to get banned from every SOE service
Problem is since their games are free to play that means if they ban someone who hasn't broken the EULA they are actively removing their license to play the game. Assuming that the person in question as spent any money within the game they are viable for a class action lawsuit.
"if we know who you are and you’re abusing somebody on Twitter, we will ban your game account"
Actively going after players whom are arguing with someone on twitter about something completely irrelevant (or even if it is about the game) is none of their business, and making a "gaming embargo" is a violation of the person in question rights. This would most likely end up being considered cyber-bullying. This is something enforced by EU law and cannot be disregarded in their EULA.
Originally posted by Swids2010 So from reading that article if you say anything negative to another player or about the game your going to get banned from every SOE service
Possibly yes. Utilizing this policy to just keep the real troublemakers in check is one thing, monitoring all social media looking for violators is another and crosses a dangerous line in the sand. Corporations like SOE could now enforce their policies and slowly over time almost all their Customers and others will be conditioned and convinced to never complain about products and services again. It's already "dangerous" to take a point of view different from the Masses on FaceBook. It's not going to be a good business world for customers if they have their freedom of speech and other basic rights to address grievances hobbled not by the Government, but by Corporations so big they answer to almost no Government. This policy doesn't do that right now but could be taken o an extreme very easily.
The phrase "The Customer is always right" may not be completely true, but going to the other extreme and judging everyone by the mentality of a Mob or a Herd isn't the right path either. This new policy will be abused, that human nature will ensure. This is history repeating itself.
This policy by it's self is mostly harmless granted, ....however.. if SOE coming out about this policy encourages other Corps to do similar... well let me put it this way....years ago I thought the meatmarket websight FaceBook was going to be a short lived fad, now look at it... I hope SOE is very careful about how they do this.
I wonder how many other Corporations already have these policies in place and are acting upon them, but have not admitted it publicly like SOE?
one or two trolls, to me, actually helps the community by virtue of galvanizing the sane people to rally against the troll. but they have to be very good trolls. some of them play the black hat role very well while others are just douches.
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Problem is since their games are free to play that means if they ban someone who hasn't broken the EULA they are actively removing their license to play the game. Assuming that the person in question as spent any money within the game they are viable for a class action lawsuit.
"if we know who you are and you’re abusing somebody on Twitter, we will ban your game account" Actively going after players whom are arguing with someone on twitter about something completely irrelevant (or even if it is about the game) is none of their business, and making a "gaming embargo" is a violation of the person in questions rights. This would most likely end up being considered cyber-bullying. This is something enforced by EU law and cannot be disregarded in their EULA.
You're making the assumption that harassing other players in any way shape or form isn't in the EULA. As long as they have some type of "anti-bully" clause in their EULA there will be absolutely no grounds for a class action lawsuit. I am fairly certain that they have their own lawyers and I'm fairly certain this type of aggressive, proactive measure would have been run by legal beforehand. I actually applaud Sony for seeking to make their games a-hole free. I'm all for friendly debate, but if someone actively seeks me out on Twitter and is harassing me on Twitter or Facebook or Google+ , you're damn right I'd like to see them banned. That crosses a line in my books.
my info got leaked from Good ole SOE. Funny thing is this was in 2011, at that time the last time I played one of their games (Planetside) it was 2008....
clarifier - what got hacked in 2011 was an old 2007 database
"approximately 12,700 non-US credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes), and about 10,700 direct debit records of certain customers in Austria, Germany, the Netherlands, and Spain" were lost, apparently from "an outdated database from 2007."
Problem is since their games are free to play that means if they ban someone who hasn't broken the EULA they are actively removing their license to play the game. Assuming that the person in question as spent any money within the game they are viable for a class action lawsuit.
"if we know who you are and you’re abusing somebody on Twitter, we will ban your game account" Actively going after players whom are arguing with someone on twitter about something completely irrelevant (or even if it is about the game) is none of their business, and making a "gaming embargo" is a violation of the person in questions rights. This would most likely end up being considered cyber-bullying. This is something enforced by EU law and cannot be disregarded in their EULA.
You're making the assumption that harassing other players in any way shape or form isn't in the EULA. As long as they have some type of "anti-bully" clause in their EULA there will be absolutely no grounds for a class action lawsuit. I am fairly certain that they have their own lawyers and I'm fairly certain this type of aggressive, proactive measure would have been run by legal beforehand. I actually applaud Sony for seeking to make their games a-hole free. I'm all for friendly debate, but if someone actively seeks me out on Twitter and is harassing me on Twitter or Facebook or Google+ , you're damn right I'd like to see them banned. That crosses a line in my books.
I'm not making that assumption. Trolling isn't necessarily harassment. Ninja-looting, killstealing, teamkilling are all things that people consider trolling.
And regarding the second part, it doesn't matter, if SOE actively goes after people outside of their game that's not applicable to their game, hence removing people's license for that game (banning) is actually not within their power. That is very much a violation of his privacy as well as rights.
ROFL they are keeping they're word. Players have already got 1 week suspension and even bans in Planetside 2 that I know of.. GOOD STUFF
Mostly for telling the developers that they need to get their act together, which is true. Battlefield and COD come out next month and they are trying to worry about Optimization (which should have been fixed months ago) instead of giving us something other to do then just participate in one giant Team death match.
Guess if you question the developers thats a no no now for SOE... Comical, what is this becoming Russia?
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Problem is since their games are free to play that means if they ban someone who hasn't broken the EULA they are actively removing their license to play the game. Assuming that the person in question as spent any money within the game they are viable for a class action lawsuit.
"if we know who you are and you’re abusing somebody on Twitter, we will ban your game account" Actively going after players whom are arguing with someone on twitter about something completely irrelevant (or even if it is about the game) is none of their business, and making a "gaming embargo" is a violation of the person in questions rights. This would most likely end up being considered cyber-bullying. This is something enforced by EU law and cannot be disregarded in their EULA.
You're making the assumption that harassing other players in any way shape or form isn't in the EULA. As long as they have some type of "anti-bully" clause in their EULA there will be absolutely no grounds for a class action lawsuit. I am fairly certain that they have their own lawyers and I'm fairly certain this type of aggressive, proactive measure would have been run by legal beforehand. I actually applaud Sony for seeking to make their games a-hole free. I'm all for friendly debate, but if someone actively seeks me out on Twitter and is harassing me on Twitter or Facebook or Google+ , you're damn right I'd like to see them banned. That crosses a line in my books.
I'm not making that assumption. Trolling isn't necessarily harassment. Ninja-looting, killstealing, teamkilling are all things that people consider trolling.
And regarding the second part, it doesn't matter, if SOE actively goes after people outside of their game that's not applicable to their game, hence removing people's license for that game (banning) is actually not within their power. That is very much a violation of his privacy as well as rights.
Yeah, I only saw the words "exploiter" and "abusing" used, so I immediately equated that to harassment, or cheats for the later. Ninja-looting is something that I feel the game should/can control. So if they don't put things in place to prevent it from happening, well, that's how it goes. Kill Stealing can also be controlled, and should be controlled, within the game. TK, not so much, maybe, but based on what I read, I don't think that would be their focus unless it was something that was a habit or something someone was doing specifically to make other players upset or angry.
I disagree that there's nothing that can be done. There may not be a precedent in gaming at the moment, but in the province of Nova Scotia, Canada they have implemented anti-bullying laws that will allow them to actually prosecute people who are being meanies. Essentially anyone sending "any electronic communication [. . .] that is intended or ought reasonably be expected to cause fear, intimidation, humiliation, distress or other damage or harm to another person’s health, emotional well-being, self-esteem or reputation." is subject to the law. It's probably not legislation that is perfected, and I'm sure that SOE's policy won't be perfect either, but this notion that I can do anything..... as long as it's on the Internet is so '90s.
Oh, and if it's on Twitter, Facebook, or any other forward-facing social media, you essentially void any sort of rights that you have to privacy.
my info got leaked from Good ole SOE. Funny thing is this was in 2011, at that time the last time I played one of their games (Planetside) it was 2008....
clarifier - what got hacked in 2011 was an old 2007 database
"approximately 12,700 non-US credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes), and about 10,700 direct debit records of certain customers in Austria, Germany, the Netherlands, and Spain" were lost, apparently from "an outdated database from 2007."
Um ok?....
Didn't help me one bit when I was at a gas station sitting on e and unable to use my Credit/debit card...I didn't even know what was going on until I called the bank and was informed that a "merchant" requested that my card be canceled due to security concerns and my new CC/Debit card was in the mail.... And since I was a Correction Officer during that time I didn't carry around money since bringing that into the prison is a good way to get fired or even arrested and charged...
Long story short I had to call my girlfriend to take off from work and bring me some freaking cash because SOE could not keep their data base under wraps. It was a huge inconvenience especially when you consider at that point I haven't logged into a SOE game for 4 years... Who the hell cares my problem, I know. But like I said before they should be worrying about others things instead of who doesn't like some silly thing their developers thought up. Because to be honest SOE developers are not exactly known for coming up with GREAT ideas so people are going to question the stuff they try to do...
Here is another thing. Log into Planetside 2 and listen to the voice chats or look at the chat screen and see how many times a day people degrade minorities or women and that goes unchecked. No moderation there. I see people create outfits with degrading names, no moderation there. Here is an example https://players.planetside2.com/#!/outfits/?outfit=37511617366465338 Why didn't they get the ban stick? Guess they need to tell a developer they need to get their act together first..
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
my info got leaked from Good ole SOE. Funny thing is this was in 2011, at that time the last time I played one of their games (Planetside) it was 2008....
clarifier - what got hacked in 2011 was an old 2007 database
"approximately 12,700 non-US credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes), and about 10,700 direct debit records of certain customers in Austria, Germany, the Netherlands, and Spain" were lost, apparently from "an outdated database from 2007."
that DB contained data that was still useful/utilized and possibly damaging to me. I spent days doing damage control. I will not get into the details here, but trust me when I say even though it was an old DB it still caused many People grief.
I wasn't happy with SOE about that, but this new Policy of theirs could be abused in way too many ways and actually causes me much more concern than a DataBase Hack.
Originally posted by Swids2010 So from reading that article if you say anything negative to another player or about the game your going to get banned from every SOE service
Yes that's exactly what they'll do... or?
Reality check?
Someone didn't really read the article, and more importantly if they had clicked through to the original article,
they would have seen that Linda did not actually use the word Troll in her discussion and was really focused on people who are, to quote Carlson says, "those who transgress to such a severe degree - death threats, sustained abuse, bullying, etc. - tend to have an escalating history of similar behaviour."
So it's pretty obvious she's not really talking about people being critical of the game, or misbehaved on occasion, but the serious arses we all have run into so often in our daily internet travels.
Fear not, all dissention will not be suppressed, but even if it is, you can always come over here and voice your concerns, tends to be a lot more open than any company sponsored forum
And in game, there's just no call for dissention, just play the darn game and enjoy yourself.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
She looks like an authoritarian control freak to me. I would say more but it would result in a warning.
Not that I like trolls and asses, but they have their place.
the real trick to defeating the trolls and such is not to eliminate then, is to make examples out of them. I wouldn't ban their accounts, I would simply turn on their pvp switches (so anyone can attack them and loot them, but they cant attack or look anyone other than other trolls), and/or transform them into ugly monsters.
banning is so uncreative. How can such uncreative people be involved in making a video game.
Originally posted by Swids2010 So from reading that article if you say anything negative to another player or about the game your going to get banned from every SOE service
Yes that's exactly what they'll do... or?
Reality check?
Someone didn't really read the article, and more importantly if they had clicked through to the original article,
they would have seen that Linda did not actually use the word Troll in her discussion and was really focused on people who are, to quote Carlson says, "those who transgress to such a severe degree - death threats, sustained abuse, bullying, etc. - tend to have an escalating history of similar behaviour."
So it's pretty obvious she's not really talking about people being critical of the game, or misbehaved on occasion, but the serious arses we all have run into so often in our daily internet travels.
Fear not, all dissention will not be suppressed, but even if it is, you can always come over here and voice your concerns, tends to be a lot more open than any company sponsored forum
And in game, there's just no call for dissention, just play the darn game and enjoy yourself.
And don't be an arse.
If that is what SOE is after, just the Ash[Hatts and jerks, than I am in agreement with this policy. There has to be limits to what constitutes acceptable behavior in any human group, even in MMOs.
It is not what they Intend that worries me, it is what the second or fourth or twelfth Community Manager after Carlson will do with the policy and how it's enforced. In our "Like" Society a Policy like this could easily get out of hand.
Let's hope my fears of "how out of hand this could get" are unfulfilled and this policy does what is intended and only that.... curtailing the abuse some Players throw at others. I could get behind that.
I've said on this what I desire to, I'm out. Have a good day folks.
I'm the owner of a resteraunt. I see a drunk guy out on the sidewalk yelling or heckling both those walking into my place of business and those just passing by. When that drunk guy goes to walk into my resteraunt what will I do? I would turn them away because of the effect they may have on my customers.
I can tell by the reaction here that SoE is doing the right thing.
lol! they ll ignore elitist?(most often the elitist are the one name troll)mmsad for soe! i would have taught they would have understood by now that only in the direst of circumstance you act like she want to act!
SOE has nothing to say, when it comes to talking the shaet about anything or anyone.
I seem to recall several times in the past when they made fun of and criticized their own paying customers.
You can say all the bad things about SOE that you want, so long as they are true (and there are plenty of things to pick from).
No need to make anything up.
what you you prefer: 1) A company who did things wrong in the past and try to change for good. Or 2) a company who did crap in the past and keep doing crap and will stay doing crap in the future?
The mindset in your post is that same mindset that prevents society from evolving in the right direction. It keeps devolving when people think this way.
EDIT: i agree with the last part, as long as people call them out the right way.
that DB contained data that was still useful/utilized and possibly damaging to me. I spent days doing damage control. I will not get into the details here, but trust me when I say even though it was an old DB it still caused many People grief.
I wasn't happy with SOE about that, but this new Policy of theirs could be abused in way too many ways and actually causes me much more concern than a DataBase Hack.
i agree w you - it should never happen
and even tho it was a 4 year old database, there were approx 900 credit accts that were active and still worked
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I think people would be less critical of soe if they would just shut the eff up and make the game. Enough talk.
Of those 10 you listed I played 7 of those. And in NONE of them did my Credit Card information get compromised!
But my info got leaked from Good ole SOE. Funny thing is this was in 2011, at that time the last time I played one of their games (Planetside) it was 2008....
All I'm saying is that they should be putting all this energy into other things like stopping hackers in their games and stopping hackers out of them as well... I won't even get into the fact that they need to worry about fixing most, if not all, of their games.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
I agree on the hacker front. After all, an fps won't live long when obvious hacking is happening undisturbed. From my personal experience on PS2, the amount of obvious hackers has dropped considerably (I get to see maybe one per week) and they tend to disappear fast. I'm more worried personally about the non obvious ones.
On a funny note, my most anticipated rpgs are unfortunately not mmos (never would have expected that a couple years ago). X rebirth is coming up soonish and Witcher 3 along with Dragonage Inquisitor will probably continue the tradition started by Skyrim.
Nevermind.....
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
There are probably many different groups and divisions in Sony's structure that handle those different things. These folks aren't responsible for it all, ya know??
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Yes that's exactly what they'll do... or?
Reality check?
Problem is since their games are free to play that means if they ban someone who hasn't broken the EULA they are actively removing their license to play the game. Assuming that the person in question as spent any money within the game they are viable for a class action lawsuit.
"if we know who you are and you’re abusing somebody on Twitter, we will ban your game account"
Actively going after players whom are arguing with someone on twitter about something completely irrelevant (or even if it is about the game) is none of their business, and making a "gaming embargo" is a violation of the person in question rights. This would most likely end up being considered cyber-bullying. This is something enforced by EU law and cannot be disregarded in their EULA.
Possibly yes. Utilizing this policy to just keep the real troublemakers in check is one thing, monitoring all social media looking for violators is another and crosses a dangerous line in the sand. Corporations like SOE could now enforce their policies and slowly over time almost all their Customers and others will be conditioned and convinced to never complain about products and services again. It's already "dangerous" to take a point of view different from the Masses on FaceBook. It's not going to be a good business world for customers if they have their freedom of speech and other basic rights to address grievances hobbled not by the Government, but by Corporations so big they answer to almost no Government. This policy doesn't do that right now but could be taken o an extreme very easily.
The phrase "The Customer is always right" may not be completely true, but going to the other extreme and judging everyone by the mentality of a Mob or a Herd isn't the right path either. This new policy will be abused, that human nature will ensure. This is history repeating itself.
This policy by it's self is mostly harmless granted, ....however.. if SOE coming out about this policy encourages other Corps to do similar... well let me put it this way....years ago I thought the meatmarket websight FaceBook was going to be a short lived fad, now look at it... I hope SOE is very careful about how they do this.
I wonder how many other Corporations already have these policies in place and are acting upon them, but have not admitted it publicly like SOE?
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
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You're making the assumption that harassing other players in any way shape or form isn't in the EULA. As long as they have some type of "anti-bully" clause in their EULA there will be absolutely no grounds for a class action lawsuit. I am fairly certain that they have their own lawyers and I'm fairly certain this type of aggressive, proactive measure would have been run by legal beforehand. I actually applaud Sony for seeking to make their games a-hole free. I'm all for friendly debate, but if someone actively seeks me out on Twitter and is harassing me on Twitter or Facebook or Google+
, you're damn right I'd like to see them banned. That crosses a line in my books.
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clarifier - what got hacked in 2011 was an old 2007 database
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/02/sony-hit-with-second-attack-loses-12-700-credit-card-nu/
"approximately 12,700 non-US credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes), and about 10,700 direct debit records of certain customers in Austria, Germany, the Netherlands, and Spain" were lost, apparently from "an outdated database from 2007."
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I'm not making that assumption. Trolling isn't necessarily harassment. Ninja-looting, killstealing, teamkilling are all things that people consider trolling.
And regarding the second part, it doesn't matter, if SOE actively goes after people outside of their game that's not applicable to their game, hence removing people's license for that game (banning) is actually not within their power. That is very much a violation of his privacy as well as rights.
ROFL they are keeping they're word. Players have already got 1 week suspension and even bans in Planetside 2 that I know of.. GOOD STUFF
Mostly for telling the developers that they need to get their act together, which is true. Battlefield and COD come out next month and they are trying to worry about Optimization (which should have been fixed months ago) instead of giving us something other to do then just participate in one giant Team death match.
Guess if you question the developers thats a no no now for SOE... Comical, what is this becoming Russia?
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Yeah, I only saw the words "exploiter" and "abusing" used, so I immediately equated that to harassment, or cheats for the later. Ninja-looting is something that I feel the game should/can control. So if they don't put things in place to prevent it from happening, well, that's how it goes. Kill Stealing can also be controlled, and should be controlled, within the game. TK, not so much, maybe, but based on what I read, I don't think that would be their focus unless it was something that was a habit or something someone was doing specifically to make other players upset or angry.
I disagree that there's nothing that can be done. There may not be a precedent in gaming at the moment, but in the province of Nova Scotia, Canada they have implemented anti-bullying laws that will allow them to actually prosecute people who are being meanies. Essentially anyone sending "any electronic communication [. . .] that is intended or ought reasonably be expected to cause fear, intimidation, humiliation, distress or other damage or harm to another person’s health, emotional well-being, self-esteem or reputation." is subject to the law. It's probably not legislation that is perfected, and I'm sure that SOE's policy won't be perfect either, but this notion that I can do anything..... as long as it's on the Internet is so '90s.
Oh, and if it's on Twitter, Facebook, or any other forward-facing social media, you essentially void any sort of rights that you have to privacy.
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Um ok?....
Didn't help me one bit when I was at a gas station sitting on e and unable to use my Credit/debit card...I didn't even know what was going on until I called the bank and was informed that a "merchant" requested that my card be canceled due to security concerns and my new CC/Debit card was in the mail.... And since I was a Correction Officer during that time I didn't carry around money since bringing that into the prison is a good way to get fired or even arrested and charged...
Long story short I had to call my girlfriend to take off from work and bring me some freaking cash because SOE could not keep their data base under wraps. It was a huge inconvenience especially when you consider at that point I haven't logged into a SOE game for 4 years... Who the hell cares my problem, I know. But like I said before they should be worrying about others things instead of who doesn't like some silly thing their developers thought up. Because to be honest SOE developers are not exactly known for coming up with GREAT ideas so people are going to question the stuff they try to do...
Here is another thing. Log into Planetside 2 and listen to the voice chats or look at the chat screen and see how many times a day people degrade minorities or women and that goes unchecked. No moderation there. I see people create outfits with degrading names, no moderation there. Here is an example https://players.planetside2.com/#!/outfits/?outfit=37511617366465338 Why didn't they get the ban stick? Guess they need to tell a developer they need to get their act together first..
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
that DB contained data that was still useful/utilized and possibly damaging to me. I spent days doing damage control. I will not get into the details here, but trust me when I say even though it was an old DB it still caused many People grief.
I wasn't happy with SOE about that, but this new Policy of theirs could be abused in way too many ways and actually causes me much more concern than a DataBase Hack.
Someone didn't really read the article, and more importantly if they had clicked through to the original article,
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-19-sony-online-entertainment-trolls-and-tribulations
they would have seen that Linda did not actually use the word Troll in her discussion and was really focused on people who are, to quote Carlson says, "those who transgress to such a severe degree - death threats, sustained abuse, bullying, etc. - tend to have an escalating history of similar behaviour."
So it's pretty obvious she's not really talking about people being critical of the game, or misbehaved on occasion, but the serious arses we all have run into so often in our daily internet travels.
Fear not, all dissention will not be suppressed, but even if it is, you can always come over here and voice your concerns, tends to be a lot more open than any company sponsored forum
And in game, there's just no call for dissention, just play the darn game and enjoy yourself.
And don't be an arse.
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She looks like an authoritarian control freak to me. I would say more but it would result in a warning.
Not that I like trolls and asses, but they have their place.
the real trick to defeating the trolls and such is not to eliminate then, is to make examples out of them. I wouldn't ban their accounts, I would simply turn on their pvp switches (so anyone can attack them and loot them, but they cant attack or look anyone other than other trolls), and/or transform them into ugly monsters.
banning is so uncreative. How can such uncreative people be involved in making a video game.
If that is what SOE is after, just the Ash[Hatts and jerks, than I am in agreement with this policy. There has to be limits to what constitutes acceptable behavior in any human group, even in MMOs.
It is not what they Intend that worries me, it is what the second or fourth or twelfth Community Manager after Carlson will do with the policy and how it's enforced. In our "Like" Society a Policy like this could easily get out of hand.
Let's hope my fears of "how out of hand this could get" are unfulfilled and this policy does what is intended and only that.... curtailing the abuse some Players throw at others. I could get behind that.
I've said on this what I desire to, I'm out. Have a good day folks.
I can tell by the reaction here that SoE is doing the right thing.
what you you prefer: 1) A company who did things wrong in the past and try to change for good. Or 2) a company who did crap in the past and keep doing crap and will stay doing crap in the future?
The mindset in your post is that same mindset that prevents society from evolving in the right direction. It keeps devolving when people think this way.
EDIT: i agree with the last part, as long as people call them out the right way.
i agree w you - it should never happen
and even tho it was a 4 year old database, there were approx 900 credit accts that were active and still worked
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