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Deathofsage
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If you're familiar with Final Fantasy XI (11), and XIV, you'll know that the only thing that motivates Square Enix to take action is when the outside community / news sits up and takes notice.
XIV 1.0 was an awful game, but they ignored players in beta saying this and wasted more millions on launch. Universal panning hurted their feelings.
XI had two bosses that players would fight more than full days, or near that long, because players are stupid. Square Enix was fine with this for years and years, until it somehow caught fire on gaming news websites.
Square has a champion horse here, but one of the prized systems of the game, more fluid-like combat, is suffering from poor client-server communication and Square, as they're so good at, are ignoring their players
Games with combat like this, and like TERA (which has even better combat) have an opportunity to take us away from scripted combat and near-macroable fights. The player can be responsible throughout the fight. In many games' past fights, you couldn't hit the raid with 75% raid damage, and hit them again with it immediately, but you *can* in games like these where players can dodge.
The tank can be targeted with two tank-killers in a row, or seven. Combat can finally work like that.
Instead, what we're having to accept is scripted combat that players are having to memorize, because Square's client<->server communication can't keep up and they're glossing over this issue, failing to even respond.
This is a company famous for shooting their champion horses in the leg before the start of each race, don't let them do that again.
I'm not saying FFXIV is the future of MMOs, but I'm hoping fluid, responsive, personally responsible, combat is. It is the responsibility of companies with the systems implemented to show other companies where they can take the genre.
I'm just hoping MMORPG, and the community, can actually get the news out there. Make Yoshi sweat, not out of cruelty, but because bad PR is all that SE pays attention to.
Official forum thread discussing Titan Hard-Mode. It's one of the hardest encounters in the game right now and where these latency/ping/poor communication issues are beginning to really present.
Players *are* beating Titan HM, but due in part to luck, and moreso to memorizing the fight. This is the chance for companies to move away from scripted fights.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
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I will pass. Good luck
You understand what he was saying. Can you translate?
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
Its probably not an issue on their side. Change ISP
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
He's asking people to commit criminal acts against Square-Enix like libel because he has some sort of delusion that it gets things fixed magically.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
Yes, many people have these issues.
Yet, most people don't.
It will get fixed, but the game doesn't need MMORPG.com for it to happen.
I'm asking no such thing.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
That sounds fine to me, 0.7 seconds is 0.4 seconds more than the usual reaction time. Pay attention and stop being bad imo.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
Cute, but something in their server<->client communications is not communicating this properly because it is not working for people, and people are falling back on memorizing the fight rather than what the game is supposed to be: reacting to the fight.
It's a chance for the genre to evolve, or to stay the same old crap.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
Liar.
In white: You implant the idea of something being bad and demand some sort of urgency from players.
In red: Your appeals for criminal actions.
Moral: Don't try to lie to a politician using his own tactics.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
The truth is not libel. The problems are clear, present, and ignored.
Square Enix is ignoring their community as they've done so well for so long.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
Its a WoW clone. You are supposed to memorize fights and dance. That is what the players WANT. Please look forward to it!
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
Have you played it neobahamut?
Yeah, in a lot of ways, its' the same grind, and the same questing.
Visually, it looks better, but visuals never mattered to me.
While it is a tab-targeter, the combat is a few steps above Warcraft, or could be, if SE would address the problems the game has.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
Appeals for actions against a company based on your own experience is libel.
Telling people, "'do not buy this product, I thought it was bad" is not libel because it is your opinion.
Asking people to purposefully make a company/product look bad because you didn't have the experience you wanted is libel and that is criminal because you are ultimately making false accusations or assumptions.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
Liar.
In white: You implant the idea of something being bad and demand some sort of urgency from players.
In red: Your appeals for criminal actions.
Originally posted by Deathofsage the only thing that motivates Square Enix to take action is when the outside community / news sits up and takes notice. Universal panning hurted their feelings. until it somehow caught fire on gaming news websites. don't let them do that again. Make Yoshi sweat, not out of cruelty, but because bad PR is all that SE pays attention to.
Moral: Don't try to lie to a politician using his own tactics.
How, exactly, is that an 'appeal' for criminal action? Sounds nothing like crime to me.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
Did you play WoW? For that game's combat to be even remotely close to WoW's, it needs a major and complete overhaul. I quit beta when they told us it wouldn't be happening. No sense in appeal testing a game that already has everything set in stone.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
Libel is criminal. Is it as bad as murder or pedophilia? No. But that doesn't change the fact that there is a section in the criminal code that clearly states that libel is a crime.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
I apologize if that's what you or anyone took from this OP.
I'm not asking for anyone to make SE look bad for the sport of looking bad. I'm asking for the press to get out about what is really going on in the game. The visuals are fine, but it takes a lot from WoW, and whatever... so it does.
Honestly, there's no reason to make them look bad at all, but just to present the facts.
They had an opportunity to step up the combat, but now that they're there, they're...incapable of/unwilling to improve their systems, coding, and prediction of movement trajectories so that combat can be played the way it was intended.
This is a company that historically only responds to negative publicity. They seem to be of the mindset that if you're still playing, it's not that bad, until the only people left aren't complaining because....they're fine with using 10 year old tactics to fight the game's program--er, bosses.
I don't know if it's a cultural difference, they don't respond to their users, they ignore their users, but maybe the recognize non-positive PR as some kind of shameful thing and that motivates them.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
This is nonsense. Our Free Company has beaten Titan with a single WHM healer. We beat it regularly with 7 people and have beaten it with as little as 6 people.
If you can not beat Titan Hard then you are not good enough, end of story. Go practice, become a better player, get better gear and try again instead of making silly posts.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
There most definitely still is an issue with their client/server communication.
It seems to not be an issue all the time, but it's still there for sure.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.