Nope EQ1 was a direct copy of UO. Lots of gameplay material were directly copied and pasted in EQ1 from UO. Like the idea of MMO itself. like the idea of crafting, gathering, fighting mob. Idea of a seamless persistent world, idea of a constant online environment and so much more. You want to continue this "who copied who" nonsense further?
predating UO was Meridian 59, the first 3d mmo
and as others have noted, MUDS
Ohh so they were MMO? well i guess FIFA 98 online mode was the 1st mmo then. considering how having an online mode and a couple of thousand player playing in online lobby is considered MMO these days. if ever game that had a multiplayer mode in game or internet connection required to play is now considered MMO why do we leave FIFA 98? I announce FIFA 98 to be the 1st MMO, maybe i will just start a blog about it and start gathering FIFA game fans who will also back me up on this. so do you think FIFA 98 then will become the 1st MMO?
This whole rant is one of the most nonsensical, irrelevant things I've read here. You clearly have no idea how MUDs work. Here's a hint for you: They're not lobby games.
Also, I'm pretty sure that Nadia has the right of things. If EQ copied from anything, it was Meridian 59, not UO.
And in response to others: Yes, Warcraft is a shameless copy of Warhammer, just as Starcraft is a shameless copy of Warhammer 40K (albeit vastly inferior). The most original IP Blizzard has is Diablo, and even that falls squarely within the bounds of Tolkienesque fantasy.
I really would like Titan to be something new & fresh, with little resemblance to other established properties.
Titan may displace WoW as top dog at Blizzard, but if Blizz is to be believed, Titan is NOT a Wow, Diablo, or Starcraft game setting.
Blizz may not tell us a lot, but they have tended to tell us the truth in the past. I'll accept their statements as to what Titan is not, at least until there's actual proof rather than just wild speculative rumors to the contrary. I really have to wonder why so many people can't conceive of Blizzard doing an mmo game that isn't based on their previous 3 franchises. Don't they have any imagination left?
Titan may displace WoW as top dog at Blizzard, but if Blizz is to be believed, Titan is NOT a Wow, Diablo, or Starcraft game setting.
Blizz may not tell us a lot, but they have tended to tell us the truth in the past. I'll accept their statements as to what Titan is not, at least until there's actual proof rather than just wild speculative rumors to the contrary. I really have to wonder why so many people can't conceive of Blizzard doing an mmo game that isn't based on their previous 3 franchises. Don't they have any imagination left?
Well to give them some credit, Blizzard hasn't exactly been the most original with its own ideas in some time. They haven't really created a new IP in some time, and many of their iterations tend to take mostly things from other games and mash it into their own, such as WoW which is heavily based around Everquest 1 with many of its elements coming from other games rather then blizzard's own creation.
Its not to say they can't, they just haven't seemed to do much as far as originality in years, at least things that were taken to be good.
And EQ1 was heavily regurgitated from another MMO. They whole WoW copied EQ1 is old and not true. The similarity ends with that they are both MMOs and themepark.
Ehh what MMO? There weren't any other graphic 3D based MMO's at that time other than text based MUDs.
UO might own the title of first graphic based MMO, but it still had a more RTS like look, compared to the now traditional 3D look of EverQuest 1.
So sorry to rain on Your parade, but EverQuest 1 was the grandfather of MMOs as we know it today.
MMO's that followed years later were almost all based on EverQuest and not UO.
Nope EQ1 was a direct copy of UO. Lots of gameplay material were directly copied and pasted in EQ1 from UO. Like the idea of MMO itself. like the idea of crafting, gathering, fighting mob. Idea of a seamless persistent world, idea of a constant online environment and so much more. You want to continue this "who copied who" nonsense further?
No it was not. You are so completely wrong I'm embarrassed for you. EQ1 with it's zoned playing areas is"seamless"? why would you even say something so obviously incorrect? UO is a skills based game, EQ1 is a level based game. UO had home ownership, player run shops, boats. EQ1 had none of this. What part of UO's fighting system copy, exactly? Was it the magic system that relied on reagents and could be cast while moving? Do you think that was possible in EQ before mounts came 6 years after release? Was it UO's open world pvp and pks everywhere as far as the eye could see on every server instead or EQ1 specially designated pvp only servers? Was it UO's isometric engine that the 3D game EQ1 copied? Ultimately, there are exactly 2 similarities, 1. They are both mmorpgs and they both have a medieval setting. If you want to argue that as copying, then I guess we can accuse UO of copying M59, and M59 copying DSO, and DSO copying ToY, and ToY copying Zork, and Zork copying net.hack and on and on in a ridiculous recursive fashion to prove a false point. I would like to continue this "who copied who" nonsense further, I think you could really benefit from the things you can learn so you don't make such blatantly false comparisons in the future. Please, proceed.
Oh great Kotick a guy that knows more about stocks and money making than gaming will now be the king CEO that answers to nobody.
He will do absolutely nothing to make gaming better for gamer's.his ONLY interest is himself.You might expect to see him follow Smedley and go all out RMT now for future Blizz/Acti games.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Nope EQ1 was a direct copy of UO. Lots of gameplay material were directly copied and pasted in EQ1 from UO. Like the idea of MMO itself. like the idea of crafting, gathering, fighting mob. Idea of a seamless persistent world, idea of a constant online environment and so much more. You want to continue this "who copied who" nonsense further?
WTF is this dude smoking? Everyone knows EQ1 was based heavily on DIKU muds. Some of the original game designers actually played UO and specifically made changes to EQ1 to make it as unlike UO as possible because they saw what non consensual PVP would do to the game and community.
That honestly has to be the funniest thing i've heard in my entire life. EQ copy of UO.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
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This whole rant is one of the most nonsensical, irrelevant things I've read here. You clearly have no idea how MUDs work. Here's a hint for you: They're not lobby games.
Also, I'm pretty sure that Nadia has the right of things. If EQ copied from anything, it was Meridian 59, not UO.
And in response to others: Yes, Warcraft is a shameless copy of Warhammer, just as Starcraft is a shameless copy of Warhammer 40K (albeit vastly inferior). The most original IP Blizzard has is Diablo, and even that falls squarely within the bounds of Tolkienesque fantasy.
I really would like Titan to be something new & fresh, with little resemblance to other established properties.
No, they don`t.
No it was not. You are so completely wrong I'm embarrassed for you. EQ1 with it's zoned playing areas is"seamless"? why would you even say something so obviously incorrect? UO is a skills based game, EQ1 is a level based game. UO had home ownership, player run shops, boats. EQ1 had none of this. What part of UO's fighting system copy, exactly? Was it the magic system that relied on reagents and could be cast while moving? Do you think that was possible in EQ before mounts came 6 years after release? Was it UO's open world pvp and pks everywhere as far as the eye could see on every server instead or EQ1 specially designated pvp only servers? Was it UO's isometric engine that the 3D game EQ1 copied? Ultimately, there are exactly 2 similarities, 1. They are both mmorpgs and they both have a medieval setting. If you want to argue that as copying, then I guess we can accuse UO of copying M59, and M59 copying DSO, and DSO copying ToY, and ToY copying Zork, and Zork copying net.hack and on and on in a ridiculous recursive fashion to prove a false point. I would like to continue this "who copied who" nonsense further, I think you could really benefit from the things you can learn so you don't make such blatantly false comparisons in the future. Please, proceed.
Oh great Kotick a guy that knows more about stocks and money making than gaming will now be the king CEO that answers to nobody.
He will do absolutely nothing to make gaming better for gamer's.his ONLY interest is himself.You might expect to see him follow Smedley and go all out RMT now for future Blizz/Acti games.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
WTF is this dude smoking? Everyone knows EQ1 was based heavily on DIKU muds. Some of the original game designers actually played UO and specifically made changes to EQ1 to make it as unlike UO as possible because they saw what non consensual PVP would do to the game and community.
That honestly has to be the funniest thing i've heard in my entire life. EQ copy of UO.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche