Unless Mr. Brad Mcquaid has matured in running the daily business side of operations. After the debacle of losing his last game firm in the fire sale to SOE. He best find a suitable business partner. I have no doubt that Mr. McQuaid is a genius MMO game developer. But, even genius creative types like Walt Disney had his brother Roy Disney to run the business end. That goes for Richard Garriott own brother Robert Garriott ran the business end for him.
Otherwise it may be an act in futility that Mr. Mcquaid may run his new game firm into the ground as he is about to release his next fantastic MMO.
The man is only human. He makes mistakes like the rest of you, the difference is hes in the public eye where everything he does is criticized. Of all the games I've ever played EQ held me in a grip like no other. As long as that game is the ruler to which this new project is measured then you will have many, many backers.
Originally posted by EndoRoboto The man is only human. He makes mistakes like the rest of you, the difference is hes in the public eye where everything he does is criticized. Of all the games I've ever played EQ held me in a grip like no other. As long as that game is the ruler to which this new project is measured then you will have many, many backers.
You don't understand how badly he ran his last company. He stiffed all those employees in his last company. No decent developer in their right mind will work for him. He might be a visionary, but when it comes to running a company he is a disaster.
Originally posted by expresso What has happened to Camelot Unchained? no heard a peep from it since all those crazy people gave up their hard earned cash to fun the thing, did they spend all the money and fancy cars as I predicted?
Apparently they put out several updates per month, The are currently up to update 72.
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Originally posted by EndoRoboto The man is only human. He makes mistakes like the rest of you, the difference is hes in the public eye where everything he does is criticized. Of all the games I've ever played EQ held me in a grip like no other. As long as that game is the ruler to which this new project is measured then you will have many, many backers.
You don't understand how badly he ran his last company. He stiffed all those employees in his last company. No decent developer in their right mind will work for him. He might be a visionary, but when it comes to running a company he is a disaster.
Exactly.
He's wickedly creative but his absolute totalitarian A-Type personality wouldn't let anyone do anything without his explicit pre-approval and monitoring. The devs for Vanguard are probably still scarred from their experience.
Originally posted by EndoRoboto The man is only human. He makes mistakes like the rest of you, the difference is hes in the public eye where everything he does is criticized. Of all the games I've ever played EQ held me in a grip like no other. As long as that game is the ruler to which this new project is measured then you will have many, many backers.
You don't understand how badly he ran his last company. He stiffed all those employees in his last company. No decent developer in their right mind will work for him. He might be a visionary, but when it comes to running a company he is a disaster.
Exactly.
He's wickedly creative but his absolute totalitarian A-Type personality wouldn't let anyone do anything without his explicit pre-approval and monitoring. The devs for Vanguard are probably still scarred from their experience.
I can't say I've made any mistakes that cost/wasted millions of dollars and cost a bunch of their people their jobs, either.
Mistakes on that scale should neither be forgotten nor easily swept aside.
Mcquaid wants to make another MMO, he should do it with his own damn money.
Despite all the hate he put out the best AAA MMORPG in the last 7 years.
Vanguard had a rough ride, not just from Brad. Microsoft changed CEOs and the new one didn't want an MMO being funded by the company. SOE picked up Sigil and then forced them to release 8 months ahead of schedule. I'm sure Brad didn't want to have to fire anyone.
At the end of the day, this man is the creative vision behind two of the most immersive and well designed MMOs in the genre's history, I'll play whatever he has to make.
And I find it weird that so many conflicting stories of what it was like in Sigil have cropped up to almost urban legend standing.
The only word I heard from confirmed Sigil employees was that there were too many super talented people with egos clashing constantly in the same company. No drugs, no "totalitarianism".
What's funny is people talking about what was and what was not confirmed. That's sheer laziness, go look for it and you'll find it. F13 had the epic interview's about Vanguard from one of the employees who was let go, and from McQuaid where he made himself look like a complete idiot.
Guy may have ideas, but he sure as heck has no business being in charge of anything.
Despite all the hate he put out the best AAA MMORPG in the last 7 years.
Vanguard had a rough ride, not just from Brad. Microsoft changed CEOs and the new one didn't want an MMO being funded by the company. SOE picked up Sigil and then forced them to release 8 months ahead of schedule. I'm sure Brad didn't want to have to fire anyone.
At the end of the day, this man is the creative vision behind two of the most immersive and well designed MMOs in the genre's history, I'll play whatever he has to make.
And I find it weird that so many conflicting stories of what it was like in Sigil have cropped up to almost urban legend standing.
The only word I heard from confirmed Sigil employees was that there were too many super talented people with egos clashing constantly in the same company. No drugs, no "totalitarianism".
You are 100% completely wrong. MS left because McQuaid and Sigil pissed millions of their dollars down the drain with nothing to show for it. They didn't want to keep sinking any more money into a black hole. As for soe, Vanguard would have died long before it released if it were not for soe. I'm certainly no soe fanboy as I'm still a bit of a bitter pre-nge swg player and none of their current games appeal to me, but to place any blame on soe for the Vanguard mess is dumb.
And btw, yes McQuaid did stiff his employees and fired them in the parking lot and yes he was(maybe still is?) a full blown drug addict. All of that is public if you care to spend 2 mins looking for it.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
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I've got no issue supporting indie devs through Kickstarter. I've done it before and I'll do it again. That said, anyone who gives Brad McQuaid money in 2013 is an idiot. Setting your money on fire would be more productive. It's like giving Curt Schilling money after the 38 Studios disaster.
McQuaid had some great ideas in the late 90's. He's out of ideas now. I just hope he doesn't ruin Kickstarter for the real MMO devs out there.
Despite all the hate he put out the best AAA MMORPG in the last 7 years.
Vanguard had a rough ride, not just from Brad. Microsoft changed CEOs and the new one didn't want an MMO being funded by the company. SOE picked up Sigil and then forced them to release 8 months ahead of schedule. I'm sure Brad didn't want to have to fire anyone.
At the end of the day, this man is the creative vision behind two of the most immersive and well designed MMOs in the genre's history, I'll play whatever he has to make.
And I find it weird that so many conflicting stories of what it was like in Sigil have cropped up to almost urban legend standing.
The only word I heard from confirmed Sigil employees was that there were too many super talented people with egos clashing constantly in the same company. No drugs, no "totalitarianism".
You are 100% completely wrong. MS left because McQuaid and Sigil pissed millions of their dollars down the drain with nothing to show for it. They didn't want to keep sinking any more money into a black hole. As for soe, Vanguard would have died long before it released if it were not for soe. I'm certainly no soe fanboy as I'm still a bit of a bitter pre-nge swg player and none of their current games appeal to me, but to place any blame on soe for the Vanguard mess is dumb.
And btw, yes McQuaid did stiff his employees and fired them in the parking lot and yes he was(maybe still is?) a full blown drug addict. All of that is public if you care to spend 2 mins looking for it.
Yep the best thing to happen to Vanguard was SOE. No matter how one feels about them. They actually saved that game, fixed the mess that it was in and built on it. I think Brad will get his project funded. Little doubt about that. There's just some things like what he did to his staff from Sigil that I don't think I'd ever personally support. That whole situation was really messed up.
I really needed a good laugh. I wouldn't trust this guy with a dime. Do yourself a favor if your thinking of contributing. Put the nostalgia aside, google this stupid prick and see just exactly how inept he is.
Originally posted by expresso What has happened to Camelot Unchained? no heard a peep from it since all those crazy people gave up their hard earned cash to fun the thing, did they spend all the money and fancy cars as I predicted?
Apparently they put out several updates per month, The are currently up to update 72.
Yup. See, that's the problem with the majority of the negative nancy arm chair members on this site. They run off at the mouth with vitriol and bile about about things they don't even follow and 9 times out of 10 someone will post the facts and they end up looking stupid.
Anyone who backed CU knows it's rolling right along and is right on schedule because they get the email updates. That's also one of the great things about backing a game. It allows you to see many forum goers in a new telling light.
As for McQuaid's new venture I'll give it a look see. If I can forgive SOE/LA for SWG I can most certainly give him another shot. As for what happened at Sigil, if the people here complaining knew what happens at other companies who make products they use daily I wonder would they object so vehemently as well. I'm thinking not so it makes it a bit hypocritical.
Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure BM has learned a few lessons from his. At least one would hope so.
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I think he would have to put someone reputable in charge, and keep his place along the creative area. Even if he has changed and learned, enough will not buy into the change imo, unless he isn't the one making the final decisions (money/time wise).
I just don't know how they would do it with kickstarter, Vanguard is in my top 5 and I would love a VG2 of sorts, but unless he can get investors to help along side the kickstarter money, I don't see raising enough money.
Too bad SoE couldn't of done this with him, I don't mean this as a knock, but I expect EQN to be SUPER casual, so not like them working on a mmo like this would be taking too much from their target audience probably. Would be nice to see a VG2 made with forgelight, but probably minus all the destructive stuff, but with higher graphics, like VG was.
Originally posted by expresso What has happened to Camelot Unchained? no heard a peep from it since all those crazy people gave up their hard earned cash to fun the thing, did they spend all the money and fancy cars as I predicted?
Apparently they put out several updates per month, The are currently up to update 72.
Don't be using your facts to ruin the belief that Jacobs just stole peoples money and has never been heard from again (and no, I am not a backer).
Originally posted by EndoRoboto The man is only human. He makes mistakes like the rest of you, the difference is hes in the public eye where everything he does is criticized. Of all the games I've ever played EQ held me in a grip like no other. As long as that game is the ruler to which this new project is measured then you will have many, many backers.
You don't understand how badly he ran his last company. He stiffed all those employees in his last company. No decent developer in their right mind will work for him. He might be a visionary, but when it comes to running a company he is a disaster.
Exactly.
He's wickedly creative but his absolute totalitarian A-Type personality wouldn't let anyone do anything without his explicit pre-approval and monitoring. The devs for Vanguard are probably still scarred from their experience.
I can't say I've made any mistakes that cost/wasted millions of dollars and cost a bunch of their people their jobs, either.
Mistakes on that scale should neither be forgotten nor easily swept aside.
Mcquaid wants to make another MMO, he should do it with his own damn money.
the difference is he's asking for our money ... lots of it.
again, i am all for him being a lead creative on an mmo. and any mmo that he plays that role in i will definitely try. but i do not think it is unreasonable to ask someone who has made mistakes as large as his, that impacted the lives and fortunes of so many, to provide tangible proof and transparent financial leadership not under his direct authority.
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Really now, being a 'visionary' isn't impressive. Every 'armchair game designer' you know or seen posts from have as much of a claim to that title. The difference between those types and legit game designers is the technical execution of skill. Being able to construct successful game design is much more impressive to me than imagining up outlandish and unrealistic ideas, but not having the skill to execute them.
Sometimes it works out...like when Brad was paired with Bill Trost and Steve Clover, who I'm sure carried wacky ol' Brad in the creation of Everquest. Similar situation with David Brevik as well. When he had Blizzard North backing him, he creates the Diablo series. On his own? You get Hellgate London....we all know how that turned out
We all know about the issues during Vanguard development, but everyone deserves a second chance. The guy was the driving force behind the most successful MMO of it's era. I wish him luck.
Despite all the hate he put out the best AAA MMORPG in the last 7 years.
Vanguard had a rough ride, not just from Brad. Microsoft changed CEOs and the new one didn't want an MMO being funded by the company. SOE picked up Sigil and then forced them to release 8 months ahead of schedule. I'm sure Brad didn't want to have to fire anyone.
At the end of the day, this man is the creative vision behind two of the most immersive and well designed MMOs in the genre's history, I'll play whatever he has to make.
And I find it weird that so many conflicting stories of what it was like in Sigil have cropped up to almost urban legend standing.
The only word I heard from confirmed Sigil employees was that there were too many super talented people with egos clashing constantly in the same company. No drugs, no "totalitarianism".
Feel free to donate all your cash. The reality is that the only reason eq1 had any impact was because it was basically the first 3d mmo with zero competition. As for vanguard it amazes me that anyone would be moronic enough to try to claim this as the best anything other than a steaming pile of bug ridden dung. It took $oe nearly a year simply to get it stable and somewhat playable. If it was even a "good" game it would have held 50k subs minimum as a niche game if nothing else. Instead it dropped to a few thousands with logins in the hundreds before ftp. If you are one of those hundreds that think it is the best thing since sliced bread thats great, but stop the nonsense about this being a great game.
I'd be inclined to give money if Brad were only the creative muscle behind the game, but he keeps forcing himself into the manager position and THAT I do not like and will not support.
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Unless Mr. Brad Mcquaid has matured in running the daily business side of operations. After the debacle of losing his last game firm in the fire sale to SOE. He best find a suitable business partner. I have no doubt that Mr. McQuaid is a genius MMO game developer. But, even genius creative types like Walt Disney had his brother Roy Disney to run the business end. That goes for Richard Garriott own brother Robert Garriott ran the business end for him.
Otherwise it may be an act in futility that Mr. Mcquaid may run his new game firm into the ground as he is about to release his next fantastic MMO.
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You don't understand how badly he ran his last company. He stiffed all those employees in his last company. No decent developer in their right mind will work for him. He might be a visionary, but when it comes to running a company he is a disaster.
Apparently they put out several updates per month, The are currently up to update 72.
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Amen
Exactly.
He's wickedly creative but his absolute totalitarian A-Type personality wouldn't let anyone do anything without his explicit pre-approval and monitoring. The devs for Vanguard are probably still scarred from their experience.
I wish him well.
As for my money....................................I'm going to "Just say no!" and leave it at that.
Good day / evening to all!
I can't say I've made any mistakes that cost/wasted millions of dollars and cost a bunch of their people their jobs, either.
Mistakes on that scale should neither be forgotten nor easily swept aside.
Mcquaid wants to make another MMO, he should do it with his own damn money.
Despite all the hate he put out the best AAA MMORPG in the last 7 years.
Vanguard had a rough ride, not just from Brad. Microsoft changed CEOs and the new one didn't want an MMO being funded by the company. SOE picked up Sigil and then forced them to release 8 months ahead of schedule. I'm sure Brad didn't want to have to fire anyone.
At the end of the day, this man is the creative vision behind two of the most immersive and well designed MMOs in the genre's history, I'll play whatever he has to make.
And I find it weird that so many conflicting stories of what it was like in Sigil have cropped up to almost urban legend standing.
The only word I heard from confirmed Sigil employees was that there were too many super talented people with egos clashing constantly in the same company. No drugs, no "totalitarianism".
The McQuaid Philosophy:
What's funny is people talking about what was and what was not confirmed. That's sheer laziness, go look for it and you'll find it. F13 had the epic interview's about Vanguard from one of the employees who was let go, and from McQuaid where he made himself look like a complete idiot.
Guy may have ideas, but he sure as heck has no business being in charge of anything.
You are 100% completely wrong. MS left because McQuaid and Sigil pissed millions of their dollars down the drain with nothing to show for it. They didn't want to keep sinking any more money into a black hole. As for soe, Vanguard would have died long before it released if it were not for soe. I'm certainly no soe fanboy as I'm still a bit of a bitter pre-nge swg player and none of their current games appeal to me, but to place any blame on soe for the Vanguard mess is dumb.
And btw, yes McQuaid did stiff his employees and fired them in the parking lot and yes he was(maybe still is?) a full blown drug addict. All of that is public if you care to spend 2 mins looking for it.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I've got no issue supporting indie devs through Kickstarter. I've done it before and I'll do it again. That said, anyone who gives Brad McQuaid money in 2013 is an idiot. Setting your money on fire would be more productive. It's like giving Curt Schilling money after the 38 Studios disaster.
McQuaid had some great ideas in the late 90's. He's out of ideas now. I just hope he doesn't ruin Kickstarter for the real MMO devs out there.
Yep the best thing to happen to Vanguard was SOE. No matter how one feels about them. They actually saved that game, fixed the mess that it was in and built on it. I think Brad will get his project funded. Little doubt about that. There's just some things like what he did to his staff from Sigil that I don't think I'd ever personally support. That whole situation was really messed up.
Thank You!
I really needed a good laugh. I wouldn't trust this guy with a dime. Do yourself a favor if your thinking of contributing. Put the nostalgia aside, google this stupid prick and see just exactly how inept he is.
Finally!!!
I've been waiting for this...
Vanguard 2?
Yup. See, that's the problem with the majority of the negative nancy arm chair members on this site. They run off at the mouth with vitriol and bile about about things they don't even follow and 9 times out of 10 someone will post the facts and they end up looking stupid.
Anyone who backed CU knows it's rolling right along and is right on schedule because they get the email updates. That's also one of the great things about backing a game. It allows you to see many forum goers in a new telling light.
As for McQuaid's new venture I'll give it a look see. If I can forgive SOE/LA for SWG I can most certainly give him another shot. As for what happened at Sigil, if the people here complaining knew what happens at other companies who make products they use daily I wonder would they object so vehemently as well. I'm thinking not so it makes it a bit hypocritical.
Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure BM has learned a few lessons from his. At least one would hope so.
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I think he would have to put someone reputable in charge, and keep his place along the creative area. Even if he has changed and learned, enough will not buy into the change imo, unless he isn't the one making the final decisions (money/time wise).
I just don't know how they would do it with kickstarter, Vanguard is in my top 5 and I would love a VG2 of sorts, but unless he can get investors to help along side the kickstarter money, I don't see raising enough money.
Too bad SoE couldn't of done this with him, I don't mean this as a knock, but I expect EQN to be SUPER casual, so not like them working on a mmo like this would be taking too much from their target audience probably. Would be nice to see a VG2 made with forgelight, but probably minus all the destructive stuff, but with higher graphics, like VG was.
Don't be using your facts to ruin the belief that Jacobs just stole peoples money and has never been heard from again (and no, I am not a backer).
the difference is he's asking for our money ... lots of it.
again, i am all for him being a lead creative on an mmo. and any mmo that he plays that role in i will definitely try. but i do not think it is unreasonable to ask someone who has made mistakes as large as his, that impacted the lives and fortunes of so many, to provide tangible proof and transparent financial leadership not under his direct authority.
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
More like Infamy.
I wouldnt be using Vanguard as a positive reference point
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Really now, being a 'visionary' isn't impressive. Every 'armchair game designer' you know or seen posts from have as much of a claim to that title. The difference between those types and legit game designers is the technical execution of skill. Being able to construct successful game design is much more impressive to me than imagining up outlandish and unrealistic ideas, but not having the skill to execute them.
Sometimes it works out...like when Brad was paired with Bill Trost and Steve Clover, who I'm sure carried wacky ol' Brad in the creation of Everquest. Similar situation with David Brevik as well. When he had Blizzard North backing him, he creates the Diablo series. On his own? You get Hellgate London....we all know how that turned out
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Feel free to donate all your cash. The reality is that the only reason eq1 had any impact was because it was basically the first 3d mmo with zero competition. As for vanguard it amazes me that anyone would be moronic enough to try to claim this as the best anything other than a steaming pile of bug ridden dung. It took $oe nearly a year simply to get it stable and somewhat playable. If it was even a "good" game it would have held 50k subs minimum as a niche game if nothing else. Instead it dropped to a few thousands with logins in the hundreds before ftp. If you are one of those hundreds that think it is the best thing since sliced bread thats great, but stop the nonsense about this being a great game.