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here comes the nickeled and dimed...

aspekxaspekx Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

here's the link in case you missed it:

 

https://www.eqnlandmark.com/founders-pack

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  • HanthosHanthos Member UncommonPosts: 242
    I can see the argument from both sides. That said, though, I am disappointed and will just have to sit it out and wait til launch to see if it's going to be worth playing. All enthusiasm has just been pretty well shot.
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,654
    In before the "I've never paid a cent to play games and still have as much fun and have to convince you daily that I'm happy" crowd.
    To talk about games without the censorship, check out https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/
  • kain6993kain6993 Member UncommonPosts: 27
    No thank you. I learned my lesson with preorders. Not interested.
  • ReaperUkReaperUk Member UncommonPosts: 760
    I bought the Explorer pack because I'm desperate for something new to do. I've spent the past few months revisiting all the old mmorpgs I already got tired of once. I'll let you know in a few months time if I wasted my money..... lol
  • ariestearieste Member UncommonPosts: 3,309
    Originally posted by aspekx

    here's the link in case you missed it:

     

    https://www.eqnlandmark.com/founders-pack

    I must be blind, where are these "nickel and diming" portions, all i see at that link is the prices for the special editions of the game - much like every other video game ever released.

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  • aleosaleos Member UncommonPosts: 1,943
    I'm trying to think of games that do this and end up actually being good games... can't think of any..
  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Well I was a sucker, usually Im happy about alpha/betas, this time Im miserable and butthole really hurts.
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,654
    Originally posted by aleos
    I'm trying to think of games that do this and end up actually being good games... can't think of any..

    It IS a sign, isn't it?

    To talk about games without the censorship, check out https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/
  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by arieste
    Originally posted by aspekx

    here's the link in case you missed it:

     

    https://www.eqnlandmark.com/founders-pack

    I must be blind, where are these "nickel and diming" portions, all i see at that link is the prices for the special editions of the game - much like every other video game ever released.

    It does seem like there are people who still think f2p means the game can't charge for anything and their mommy and daddy should just keep it running.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    It is a bit disingenuous for the same page offering 3 payment options to also contain the phrase F2P.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by aleos
    I'm trying to think of games that do this and end up actually being good games... can't think of any..

    That do what? That's a bit of a broad statement.

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  • SteelhelmSteelhelm Member UncommonPosts: 332
    What's with the scifi outfit, are we gonna see space stations?
    Talking about games where thousands of players exist simultaneously in a single instance and mechanics related to such games.
  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    It is a bit disingenuous for the same page offering 3 payment options to also contain the phrase F2P.

     

    Eh, same as it is for other titles to say F2P but not offer all content for free.  IMO "F2P" does not mean F2P everything and anything, only log in and play the game to a set limit.  For those that don't want to pay, they will be able to play something at some point.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Steelhelm
    What's with the scifi outfit, are we gonna see space stations?

    They look like something out of Mass Effect, WTH.

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  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    Originally posted by Steelhelm
    What's with the scifi outfit, are we gonna see space stations?

     Only one continent per Landmark server will be limited to a Norrathian style of building.  All other areas are free to build what ever they want, space stations and the like.  The reason for the one policed continent is that when SoE says they are interested in certain structures, builders that would want to see their work in EQN proper would build them there.

  • BarryManilowBarryManilow Member UncommonPosts: 701

    Free to play when it goes Live.  Alpha and Beta is a totally different animal all together.   Usually only very close friends, devs, family, and professional testers are invited to Alpha.

     

    You don't have to pay a dime if you don't want too.  I will have 4 extra Beta codes to give out :)

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Aelious
    Originally posted by Steelhelm
    What's with the scifi outfit, are we gonna see space stations?

     Only one continent per Landmark server will be limited to a Norrathian style of building.  All other areas are free to build what ever they want, space stations and the like.  The reason for the one policed continent is that when SoE says they are interested in certain structures, builders that would want to see their work in EQN proper would build them there.

    I guess that explains it, will be weird either way though :).

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  • BarryManilowBarryManilow Member UncommonPosts: 701
    Originally posted by Aelious
    Originally posted by Steelhelm
    What's with the scifi outfit, are we gonna see space stations?

     Only one continent per Landmark server will be limited to a Norrathian style of building.  All other areas are free to build what ever they want, space stations and the like.  The reason for the one policed continent is that when SoE says they are interested in certain structures, builders that would want to see their work in EQN proper would build them there.

    I have a feeling that Norrathian style servers will be packed compared to the others.

  • donpopukidonpopuki Member Posts: 591
    It's kinda like supporting a Kickstarter. I threw some money at the screen.
  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,642

    I think what honestly has me feeling offended is that this is NOT the EQNEXT Founder's packs. 

     

    There are like Founder's packs for toolset software.

     

    I have zero doubt that they will charge us again for actually Founder's packs to EQNext and more than likely give us nothing for having bought this.

  • OmaliOmali MMO Business CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 1,177
    Originally posted by aleos
    I'm trying to think of games that do this and end up actually being good games... can't think of any..

    You must have very specific tastes or not play any games if you've never played a game that offered pre-order bonuses that was any good. 

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  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    Originally posted by BarryManilow
    Originally posted by Aelious
    Originally posted by Steelhelm
    What's with the scifi outfit, are we gonna see space stations?

     Only one continent per Landmark server will be limited to a Norrathian style of building.  All other areas are free to build what ever they want, space stations and the like.  The reason for the one policed continent is that when SoE says they are interested in certain structures, builders that would want to see their work in EQN proper would build them there.

    I have a feeling that Norrathian style servers will be packed compared to the others.

     

    The cool thing is each "server" will have all the different continents from the sounds of it, the difference between Norrath and "other" will be landmasses apart in the same world.  That said they talked about 200+ servers with the same "world" and you can port between them using the spires.  That gives everyone space to build and they will just open another server if space dwindles.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Originally posted by reaperuk
    I bought the Explorer pack because I'm desperate for something new to do. I've spent the past few months revisiting all the old mmorpgs I already got tired of once. I'll let you know in a few months time if I wasted my money..... lol

    Desperate bored gamer's ruin the industry for all consumers.I am not pointing you out,i am guilty as charged many times in the past ,it took me a long time to relax and settle down on spending,i no longer toss money freely at game developers,they do not deserve it.Now i treat games like i do anything else in life,i want to test the product and i don't want ANY misleading costs.

    If you are a true blue proponent of paying hidden costs through cash shops,then by all means go for it,but if like me and don't like sneaky business tactics,do not give them a dime,it MIGHT force them to change their ways.

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  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 3,029
    Better not suck. Cya $59.95 otherwise.

    This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  • IczerIczer Member UncommonPosts: 116
    Desperate, bored gamer crew checking in. I am desperately seeking a MMO to come a long and deliver on the promises and the hype. I will most likely throw $20 at these devs to give this a shot. 
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