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Need Advice New Game PC $700-800 Budget

SeirenSeiren Member CommonPosts: 89

Hello!

I'm searching for a new game PC within a budget of $700 - $800. I've found some black friday deals online but I'm not quite sure what to pick. I'm looking for something that will last me a couple of years and that I can an easily upgrade in the future. At the very least get something that will last me but it won't feel like I've wasted my money four years later - make sense?

Newegg has iBUYPOWER AMD FX-Series 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity Desktop PC Windows 8.1 64-Bit ARC Series NE611FX at a very good price.

but then I was sent this link to a similar rig iBUYPOWER Black Gamer Power WA550B Desktop PC with AMD Quad-Core FX-4300 Processor, 8GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive and Windows 7 Home Premium

And my brother also suggested this alienware

I'm also opened to 'build my own' as long as it stays within my budget or less would be great. I would like to purchase by the end of this week. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

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  • VooDoo_PapaVooDoo_Papa Member UncommonPosts: 897
    If you build your own, do you have an operating system you can use on the new system? Or do you need to purchase windows?

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    What will you be doing with the computer? Will you be playing games, movies, etc.? Sent you a pm with a build.

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  • funyahnsfunyahns Member Posts: 315

      Well the both have a 300w power supply you would most likely have to replace.  The one from New Egg comes with windows 8.  Not sure I would go that route personally.  May want to shop around a bit more.  Make sure you get a SSHD to run your O.S. off of.  Look for a medium range - high end video card.

     

     

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Originally posted by Seiren

    Newegg has iBUYPOWER AMD FX-Series 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity Desktop PC Windows 8.1 64-Bit ARC Series NE611FX  at a very good price.

    How do you know it's a good price?  Shouldn't whether the price is good depend on what you get for the price?  If I sold you something that didn't work at all, but it only cost $100, would that be a good price?  In this case, you can get a cheap system running integrated graphics that is much faster than that--on both the CPU and GPU sides.

  • SeirenSeiren Member CommonPosts: 89


    Originally posted by VooDoo_Papa
    If you build your own, do you have an operating system you can use on the new system? Or do you need to purchase windows?

    I will need an operating system.


    Originally posted by Ice-Queen
    What will you be doing with the computer? Will you be playing games, movies, etc.? Sent you a pm with a build.

    This computer will be for playing games, nothing else. I am reviewing the build you send me, thank you.


    Originally posted by funyahns
      Well the both have a 300w power supply you would most likely have to replace.  The one from New Egg comes with windows 8.  Not sure I would go that route personally.  May want to shop around a bit more.  Make sure you get a SSHD to run your O.S. off of.  Look for a medium range - high end video card.

    I did noticed. I read the reviews on them and on option two someone posted they changed it to 600w and that it was still a good deal for the asking price?

  • SeirenSeiren Member CommonPosts: 89


    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by Seiren Newegg has iBUYPOWER AMD FX-Series 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity Desktop PC Windows 8.1 64-Bit ARC Series NE611FX  at a very good price.
    How do you know it's a good price?  Shouldn't whether the price is good depend on what you get for the price?  If I sold you something that didn't work at all, but it only cost $100, would that be a good price?  In this case, you can get a cheap system running integrated graphics that is much faster than that--on both the CPU and GPU sides.

    I only meant that is a good price for my pocket. It's cheaper than the other options I linked. I already made the mistake of buying something that I need to upgrade so I want to make sure that this time my money is well spent on a PC that won't die on me after two years or not powerful enough for me to play my games. I've been out of the gaming world for some time now, been busy changing diapers, I want to play again. LOL Help me build or find a good option, if you can. Thanks!

  • PogoantPogoant Member UncommonPosts: 13

    This is pretty cheep for what you get.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258020

    • AMD FX-Series FX-6100(3.3GHz)
    • 16GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity
    • Windows 8 64-Bit
    • NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 2GB
    I'm not to sure of the Avatar brand though.  I've never used Avavtar.
     
    Walmart also has a "build your own ibuypower thing online, but the options are pretty limited, and most of the power supplies are under sized.
     

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    You really should go to your best PC store and turn them on,then check for the Windows Index score.

    You wan t the highest score possible,prefferrably 7.0 +.

    I have no idea how much 800 can buy where you live but in Canada that is what you would pay for a top of the line video card ,let alone a whole PC.

    If you cannot find a 7 index score for your budget,then make sure you do not go below 6.To give you an idea a 6 will play anything on the market right now but with settings turned down for some games.You could actually play 2 Wow's at the same time on same machine with a 5.5>6 and yes other games of that quality as well,the higher end games like FFXIV you would only be able to play one copy and struggle around 30-35 frames a second.

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499

    Here you go:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113327

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128627

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231519

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127722

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226237

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416776

    That comes to $796, including shipping, and before $55 in rebates.

    I would run the memory at 1866 MHz and 1.5 V, rather than the rated 2133 MHz and 1.6 V.  The latter pushes things harder than I'd prefer to, and the performance difference will amount to a rounding error.

    I went with a 240 GB SSD and no hard drive.  That makes a ton of sense if 240 GB is enough space for you, or even is likely to be enough space for you for some months, as it's very easy to add a hard drive later for more capacity.  But if you need 2 TB today, then you'll have to ditch the SSD and get a slow hard drive instead.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Originally posted by Seiren

     


    Originally posted by Quizzical

    Originally posted by Seiren Newegg has iBUYPOWER AMD FX-Series 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity Desktop PC Windows 8.1 64-Bit ARC Series NE611FX  at a very good price.
    How do you know it's a good price?  Shouldn't whether the price is good depend on what you get for the price?  If I sold you something that didn't work at all, but it only cost $100, would that be a good price?  In this case, you can get a cheap system running integrated graphics that is much faster than that--on both the CPU and GPU sides.

     

    I only meant that is a good price for my pocket. It's cheaper than the other options I linked. I already made the mistake of buying something that I need to upgrade so I want to make sure that this time my money is well spent on a PC that won't die on me after two years or not powerful enough for me to play my games. I've been out of the gaming world for some time now, been busy changing diapers, I want to play again. LOL Help me build or find a good option, if you can. Thanks!

    One general rule of prebuilt computers that you should be aware of is that companies won't hide it if they're selling you really good parts.  More to the point, if they won't tell you what's in it, it's probably because it's junk and they don't want you to know.

    A lot of companies have gotten really good at listing 40 lines of specs while only telling you two parts in the entire machine.  Many of the specs are redundant, and many others are so vague as to be basically meaningless.  If they won't tell you exactly which part they're using, then you should assume that they're using the cheapest parts they could find that fit their claimed specs--because they likely are.  For some things like an optical drive, that's okay.  For a power supply, it's big trouble, as a bad power supply can easily fry everything else in the system, no matter what nominal wattage the company claims.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Originally posted by funyahns

      Well the both have a 300w power supply you would most likely have to replace.  The one from New Egg comes with windows 8.  Not sure I would go that route personally.  May want to shop around a bit more.  Make sure you get a SSHD to run your O.S. off of.  Look for a medium range - high end video card.

    Seagate's "hybrid" drives are a waste of money.  They try to make it sound as similar to an SSD as they can, even though it's basically an ordinary hard drive with token amounts of NAND flash that you can't get much use out of.  Either save money by getting a normal hard drive or pay what it takes to get an SSD.

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