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What happened to Divergence?
Iylz
Member Posts: 107
I was very interested in The Repopulation and Divergence, considering they were very similar, back when they were doing their Kickstarter stuff. I ended up doing a round 2 pledge with The Repopulation due to the progress they were making and how much was already in the game and just needed some polish. I totally forgot about Divergence due to lack of things coming from the devs. Just remembered the game today and looked over on their forums and......well.....wtf?
Anyone know what's happening with this? By the look of things over on the forums looks like a sinking ship.
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Divergence isn't going anywhere fast. The majority of the "dev blogs" are nothing but depressing, almost predictable posts complete with excuses as to why the development on that particular month has halted and moaning about lack of funds. Their main website is a 30 second Wix creation, I'd leave it well alone and continue supporting The Repopulation.
I actually chuckled a bit when I went to their website and is was hosted by Wix.
I'm set on The Repopulation now, was just wondering about it. I actually dropped $150 on The Repopulation. I'm pretty excited for this release. Pretty much everything I loved about SWG but more features, I know hard to believe.
The Repopulation development is coming along very nicely indeed, certainly one to watch. Divergence in my opinion is a pipe dream, as well as a money grab.
Was just browsing through their forums and come across this post from Ethan;
Quite the professional outfit, huh?
Absolutely. I suppose having a project founder refer to you as a c**t would have a profound effect too!
Ethan is certainly one for keeping tradition. You don’t need to be Nostradamus to predict the next instalment in this saga.
Feydikan sums up Divergence Online development.
"OMG working so hard..pant pant... need sleep... pant pant.... and money... pant pant....keep faith"
Like I said, if by December nothing new came I'm done with it. So I've been done supporting it for a while now.
I tried my best to like the project and forget about the man constructing it and his need to keep burning bridges but at a certain point you burn your fans.
Oh well, RIP Divergence.
(It sucks you dont wanna see it)
If it makes you guys feel any better, I guess Ethan stopped talking to his own site admin that has been helping him for free for the last few months as well.
http://www.divergence-online.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=430
Guess he is going to hibernate for the winter until those Spring bills come due in which case I'm sure we'll see another attempt for funding.
It might be a cold winter if he doesn’t fulfil his legal kickstarter obligations he agreed to when launching his campaign.
Feydikan sums up Divergence Online development.
"OMG working so hard..pant pant... need sleep... pant pant.... and money... pant pant....keep faith"
It was only a matter of time before the folks over on their forums started losing patience.
Unfortunately I don't believe it would take much from Ethan to win the loyal crowd back over. He'll re-surface shortly claiming development was put on-hold due to the untimely demise of one of his cats and requesting another 20k worth of development funds to get things going again.
Violins a ready!
To quote Ethans post linked above.
Guess the REAL backers whos money has been taken through a case of blatant fraudulent deception wont be to pleased.
Feydikan sums up Divergence Online development.
"OMG working so hard..pant pant... need sleep... pant pant.... and money... pant pant....keep faith"
I checked the forum link and all I can say is it doesn't look too good over there. There doesn't seem to be much communication and the forum looks pretty dead as far as participation. Would of been a cool mmo, but I doubt it will ever launch if i'm being honest.
Let's face it, the "development" of this game is what pays Ethan's living costs. He's clearly not living like a king, but it most likely beats getting a "real" job.
The game has been in an alpha state for almost 10 years now. The range of excuses for the lack of progress has been epic. Almost everything that can possibly go wrong has happened to THIS game. Perhaps the game was cursed by some voodoo princess from Haiti ? Or maybe it will be if Ethan doesn't give that princess her stolen "Kickstarter contribution" back...
Let me preface myself by saying that I'm not interested in this game in any way, and only stumbled over here because quite frankly I'm bored to tears now that fall semester is over
With that out of the way... holy shit. This is probably one of the most blatant acts of fraud I've seen, and this guy is a complete idiot for admitting it in public. Or at all, for that matter.
I hope people who gave this guy money can get it back. If they can't I, I hope one (or many) of them file suit against this guy. I'm not normally one to advocate the sue-happy behavior so prevalent in today's society, but in this case it would be 100% justified. I'm not just talking about civil court either, I'm talking criminal charges.
It might be prudent to inform the various crowd-funding websites of this gentleman's criminal behavior as well, so he can't use them to pull it again.
Best of luck.
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Kickstarters are nothing but donations. Legal agreement pretty much says "as long as the recipient of the money attempted to do anything, he fulfilled the promise, so off you go".
You donate. Either you get anything out of it or not depends entirely on the honesty of a receiver and his ability to plan the business ahead. Surprisingly, people good in business rarely need kickstarter.
So you pretty much donate money for a dream castle in the skies. A lofty goal, indeed, but don't be surprised if you'll get jack in returns, or get something like Godus (that's Moulineux kickstarter-funded mobile cash-shop cow-clicker).
Hilarious read! I found the following quote particularly comical;
Rather ironic that Divergence is still yet to deliver on 95% of Ethans claims.
Latest "Appeal" by Ethan
http://www.divergence-online.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=432
(It sucks you dont wanna see it)
I am Sam
Sam I am
Ethan and his amazing technicolor screen alts.
Feydikan sums up Divergence Online development.
"OMG working so hard..pant pant... need sleep... pant pant.... and money... pant pant....keep faith"
Divergence is one golf coupon short of becoming a Rune Conquest fiasco.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Pretty sure Ethan's comments in his post violate kickstarters rules.
"There's nothing to show because for all intents and purposes, the Kickstarter did fail. It went over only because of a few generous people who put in a large amount of money but not as contributions; as loans to see that it went over the limit. Meaning, I was expected to give that right back imediately."
That's just unjustly taking peoples money. people invest based on the idea that if he got the amount he asked for they would pay. Artificially forcing the kickstarter over the limit so that while you asked for 30k you only actually received 10k and the other 20k was immediately paid back to the friends of his that pretended to donate seems not only immoral, but I imagine that kickstarter must also have rules about faking your funding.
I didn't back the game, but what he did is morally wrong. I can only imagine the outrage from backers that gave money on the belief he would then have funding to do what he needed to - then come to find out he actually took the donations without the caveat that he even hit the kickstarter goal. There is a reason projects have those limits and that potential donors are not charged until the project hits its goal.
Yikes. Clearly you could donate to kickstarter without ever seeing anything come of it, but this was not that.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
The Divergence Online Kickstarter Campaign is nothing but simple case of criminal fraud and gives future backers a good example of how dishonest Ethan Casner and Stained Glass Llama conduct business and a fine example he has no hesitation in scamming funds to back his fruitless project.
Regardless if Ethan thinks the campaign failed he agreed to this when launching his campaign. I highly urge backers to contact kickstarter as he has clearly stated he has not followed the kickstarter rules of conduct.
Or perhaps this is the doings of the hackers who hijacked the kickstarter campaign have now hacked his forums?
Feydikan sums up Divergence Online development.
"OMG working so hard..pant pant... need sleep... pant pant.... and money... pant pant....keep faith"
On a related note...
http://www.theonion.com/video/internet-scam-alert-most-kickstarter-projects-just,28655/
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
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