Originally posted by Trashcantoy Let's face it OP, optimistic threads are not allowed on these forums. People can't take happy news and try to downgrade it at any cost without even having heard of the game in question.
There's a difference between the game launched and has a huge interest...or something along those lines and the game launched and is bigger than wow, with the largest showing in gaming history!!!!!
B&S is far from an unknown title and no one has disagreed that it's done well for it's open. They take issue with the terrible comparison to a game that launched in 2005.
Holy cats that's a lot of people. Wonder how it'll do in the West?
Its touch and go whether it will come out in the west but alas still epic numbers, as i said it took WOW a year to reach a million.
And as many other people said, that comparison means nothing at all. The sad thing is, you don't even have to make it sound like that, B&S is doing good without comments like "it reached a million players faster than WoW did herpderp" so i don't even know why you bother.
Originally posted by Trashcantoy Let's face it OP, optimistic threads are not allowed on these forums. People can't take happy news and try to downgrade it at any cost without even having heard of the game in question.
It's never only good news, it is always "game I like is better than other games". There always has to be at least one game compared like WoW in this example, and there always has to be some exaggeration, and some selective use of facts to make other people want to straighten things out.
He could just write "My game beats records and it is impresive", he has to add that little detail, that it was better than other game and that it is epic, just to give a reason to be flamed... don't pretend like you don't see the difference.
It is provoking, so he gets response.
Lol, i didn't say the game was better than wow, seems you have an actual reading problem.
I said it took WOW a year to reach a million, that's not saying B&S is better lmao.
@trashcanty, lol i learnt long ago not to take much stock in peoples reaction on these forums but alas the numbers are epic even though i'm sure Age Of Wushu had 20 million at some point.
Both epic number in themselves.
dude you've been made since page 1, no need to start acting righteous now.
Again you still have a reading problem but no matter, i stick to my OP which wasn't about any game being better than the other.
Epic numbers which ever way you look at it, don't let it bother you though.
by saying it took WoW a year to reach a million, and this game did it in a 10th of the time is equivalent to you saying its better than WoW.
Except it isn't. He made no statement of which game he thinks is better. He provided a number that B&S has reached, and then provided another number for comparison. You're basically claiming that you know what he meant better than he does... which is pretty absurd.
By your logic, if I said "It takes Road House Grill 3 months to sell the number of hamburgers McDonald's sells in a week" (totally made up figure by the way, just for example), I would be saying that I think McDonald's is better than Road House. Only I wouldn't have. My opinion has nothing to do with those numbers. They are what they are. Further, despite the numbers, I think Road House's burgers blow McD's clear out of the water. So, you see, my citing those figures says nothing of my preference. They're just figures.
You're spinning a classic strawman - misrepresenting/exaggerating his statements to make them easier to attack.
and you ignoring the facts that 1. is a p2p game and one is f2p and 2. ignoring the fact of how many mmorpg players there actually was back when wow launched to now just goes to show you don't care about it, you just want to weave your story to put B&S in the best light possible, no matter whose toes you step on.
.... all that from someone pointing out a comparison between a game's launch numbers, compared to another's over the course of 3 years...
Could you at least provide some source as to these reports?
What happened to B&S performing poorly? Is there enough end-game content all of a sudden? What about the leveling? I think I remember reading that it went by too fast.
Holy cats that's a lot of people. Wonder how it'll do in the West?
Its touch and go whether it will come out in the west but alas still epic numbers, as i said it took WOW a year to reach a million.
And as many other people said, that comparison means nothing at all. The sad thing is, you don't even have to make it sound like that, B&S is doing good without comments like "it reached a million players faster than WoW did herpderp" so i don't even know why you bother.
He's picking those posts to respond to because it's the forum equivalent of a child sticking his fingers in his ears and saying I can't hear you. His choice of words are not an accident, he's used epic each time because he's trying to troll the people telling him it's not. Nothing you actually say is going to change his mind, you'll just get another silly response to a fluff post and the word epic in it again.
by saying it took WoW a year to reach a million, and this game did it in a 10th of the time is equivalent to you saying its better than WoW.
Except it isn't. He made no statement of which game he thinks is better. He provided a number that B&S has reached, and then provided another number for comparison. You're basically claiming that you know what he meant better than he does... which is pretty absurd.
By your logic, if I said "It takes Road House Grill 3 months to sell the number of hamburgers McDonald's sells in a week" (totally made up figure by the way, just for example), I would be saying that I think McDonald's is better than Road House. Only I wouldn't have.
You're spinning a classic strawman - misrepresenting/exaggerating his statements to make them easier to attack.
and you ignoring the facts that 1. is a p2p game and one is f2p and 2. ignoring the fact of how many mmorpg players there actually was back when wow launched to now just goes to show you don't care about it, you just want to weave your story to put B&S in the best light possible, no matter whose toes you step on.
.... all that from someone pointing out a comparison between a game's launch numbers, compared to another's over the course of 3 years...
Wow... You'd make an awesome conspiracy theorist.
Thing is i actually find his/her comments pretty funny, it's entertaining to say the least.
Could you at least provide some source as to these reports?
What happened to B&S performing poorly? Is there enough end-game content all of a sudden? What about the leveling? I think I remember reading that it went by too fast.
Holy cats that's a lot of people. Wonder how it'll do in the West?
Its touch and go whether it will come out in the west but alas still epic numbers, as i said it took WOW a year to reach a million.
And as many other people said, that comparison means nothing at all. The sad thing is, you don't even have to make it sound like that, B&S is doing good without comments like "it reached a million players faster than WoW did herpderp" so i don't even know why you bother.
He's picking those posts to respond to because it's the forum equivalent of a child sticking his fingers in his ears and saying I can't hear you. His choice of words are not an accident, he's used epic each time because he's trying to troll the people telling him it's not. Nothing you actually say is going to change his mind, you'll just get another silly response to a fluff post and the word epic in it again.
Nope, i'm sticking to my OP and not being had up or cornered in a completely innocent thread, again they are epic numbers.
You don't have to be involved in the discussion if you don't like the OP.
According to reports, the concurrent number of users online has gone pass 1.8 million with around 18 million active users. Tencent Games is expected to make an official statement once the concurrent number hits 2 million. World of Warcraft took 3 years to hit 1 million concurrent users.
According to reports, the concurrent number of users online has gone pass 1.8 million with around 18 million active users. Tencent Games is expected to make an official statement once the concurrent number hits 2 million. World of Warcraft took 3 years to hit 1 million concurrent users.
195 servers lol.
yea, sub model works totaly different in asia tho. also.... 1 year to reach 1 million? yea whatever.... that was 2007 bro, in a world where mmos did not have that many customers usualy.
so, how long will it take NC soft to actually release the game in the west? that'd be a number i'd be interested in
uhf, and for the record, in the old republic's case people go like "haha, you have less than 1 million players now!"
in blade and souls case it's "uuuuh, you have 1 million players now!"
seriously..... make up your mind ^^
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I don't believe it for one minute but whatever,it doesn't matter to me.If they want to use Blizzard marketing strategy by constantly telling us how many are playing,they can go right ahead,smart gamer's choose for themselves and don't jump on bandwagons or follow the crowd.I never understood that stupid kind of marketing.it is like saying come play our game everyone else is,ok ya for sure,i'll get right on it,where do i hand over my money?
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Originally posted by Wizardry I don't believe it for one minute but whatever,it doesn't matter to me.If they want to use Blizzard marketing strategy by constantly telling us how many are playing,they can go right ahead,smart gamer's choose for themselves and don't jump on bandwagons or follow the crowd.I never understood that stupid kind of marketing.it is like saying come play our game everyone else is,ok ya for sure,i'll get right on it,where do i hand over my money?
Dunno about bandwagons but playing the CN version made me fall in love with MMORPGs again.
Sure are a LOT of people trying to come up with excuses for B&S being popular...
It doesn't matter if 1000000000000 more people play MMOs now than when WoW came out or if 87.34987232% of the population has internet connectivity compared to however many years ago.
They are playing B&S and not whatever game you are attempting to defend.
And no, it doesn't matter if the game is F2P or not. They are CHOSING to play it.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Originally posted by Wizardry I don't believe it for one minute but whatever,it doesn't matter to me.If they want to use Blizzard marketing strategy by constantly telling us how many are playing,they can go right ahead,smart gamer's choose for themselves and don't jump on bandwagons or follow the crowd.I never understood that stupid kind of marketing.it is like saying come play our game everyone else is,ok ya for sure,i'll get right on it,where do i hand over my money?
Dunno about bandwagons but playing the CN version made me fall in love with MMORPGs again.
Blade and Soul is simply fun.
I was talking to a guildie lastnight (chinese), they said that the only viable way to level is questing all the way to cap. They said there is a battle ground (maybe two can't remember) and some dungeons. They said it's a mostly pve game, and that all the female characters look AMAZING, huge.. you know. They said they played real hardcore for 3days then quit.
I could just play the CN version, but I'll wait patiently for the NA/EU version. Hopefully it isn't too far off...
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast, And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed: And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill, And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!" ~Lord George Gordon Byron
if it's good, i'll play it, no matter if it has 1000 players or 10 million.
if it's not good, i wont play it, no matter if it has 1000 players or 10 million.
I hope it's good though. because i am a martial arts movie junkie and i would like to play a well translated martial arts game. (wushu looked awesome but i couldnt get past the translation issues- call it petty if you like but its the truth)
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
by saying it took WoW a year to reach a million, and this game did it in a 10th of the time is equivalent to you saying its better than WoW.
Except it isn't. He made no statement of which game he thinks is better. He provided a number that B&S has reached, and then provided another number for comparison. You're basically claiming that you know what he meant better than he does... which is pretty absurd.
By your logic, if I said "It takes Road House Grill 3 months to sell the number of hamburgers McDonald's sells in a week" (totally made up figure by the way, just for example), I would be saying that I think McDonald's is better than Road House. Only I wouldn't have.
You're spinning a classic strawman - misrepresenting/exaggerating his statements to make them easier to attack.
and you ignoring the facts that 1. is a p2p game and one is f2p and 2. ignoring the fact of how many mmorpg players there actually was back when wow launched to now just goes to show you don't care about it, you just want to weave your story to put B&S in the best light possible, no matter whose toes you step on.
.... all that from someone pointing out a comparison between a game's launch numbers, compared to another's over the course of 3 years...
Wow... You'd make an awesome conspiracy theorist.
Thing is i actually find his/her comments pretty funny, it's entertaining to say the least.
Don't worry man. The hipsters are just giving B n S the same treatment they have been giving Wildstar the last few days. An mmo is praised or doing well? Apparently, that is not allowed around here. No soup for you!
Amazing, 195 servers! I can see why they went to China and not the US 1st. Still I hope the game does come out over here, it is now over 12 months since we've received an update/announcement/picture/tweet.
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There's a difference between the game launched and has a huge interest...or something along those lines and the game launched and is bigger than wow, with the largest showing in gaming history!!!!!
B&S is far from an unknown title and no one has disagreed that it's done well for it's open. They take issue with the terrible comparison to a game that launched in 2005.
Its touch and go whether it will come out in the west but alas still epic numbers, as i said it took WOW a year to reach a million.
And as many other people said, that comparison means nothing at all. The sad thing is, you don't even have to make it sound like that, B&S is doing good without comments like "it reached a million players faster than WoW did herpderp" so i don't even know why you bother.
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Again you still have a reading problem but no matter, i stick to my OP which wasn't about any game being better than the other.
Epic numbers which ever way you look at it, don't let it bother you though.
It's only news.
They are waiting till they hit the 2 million concurrent user mark.
He's picking those posts to respond to because it's the forum equivalent of a child sticking his fingers in his ears and saying I can't hear you. His choice of words are not an accident, he's used epic each time because he's trying to troll the people telling him it's not. Nothing you actually say is going to change his mind, you'll just get another silly response to a fluff post and the word epic in it again.
Thing is i actually find his/her comments pretty funny, it's entertaining to say the least.
According to reports, that's how the paragraph starts, i guess we will know once they hit the 2 million mark.
Nope, i'm sticking to my OP and not being had up or cornered in a completely innocent thread, again they are epic numbers.
You don't have to be involved in the discussion if you don't like the OP.
That's something you would need to take up with the site in question.
In 3Q13 B&S made almost 20 million US dollars, and only working in Korea, I'm curious to see the 4Q13 earnings with the game released in China.
F2P Asian grinder. And you are surprised?
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yea, sub model works totaly different in asia tho. also.... 1 year to reach 1 million? yea whatever.... that was 2007 bro, in a world where mmos did not have that many customers usualy.
so, how long will it take NC soft to actually release the game in the west? that'd be a number i'd be interested in
uhf, and for the record, in the old republic's case people go like "haha, you have less than 1 million players now!"
in blade and souls case it's "uuuuh, you have 1 million players now!"
seriously..... make up your mind ^^
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
B&S made 20 BILLION KRW(korean currency) it is almost 20 million USD.
The unit is KRW in million so: 20305 KRW x 1000000 = 20305000000 KRW = 20305000+- USD.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Dunno about bandwagons but playing the CN version made me fall in love with MMORPGs again.
Blade and Soul is simply fun.
Sure are a LOT of people trying to come up with excuses for B&S being popular...
It doesn't matter if 1000000000000 more people play MMOs now than when WoW came out or if 87.34987232% of the population has internet connectivity compared to however many years ago.
They are playing B&S and not whatever game you are attempting to defend.
And no, it doesn't matter if the game is F2P or not. They are CHOSING to play it.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
I was talking to a guildie lastnight (chinese), they said that the only viable way to level is questing all the way to cap. They said there is a battle ground (maybe two can't remember) and some dungeons. They said it's a mostly pve game, and that all the female characters look AMAZING, huge.. you know. They said they played real hardcore for 3days then quit.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"
~Lord George Gordon Byron
if it's good, i'll play it, no matter if it has 1000 players or 10 million.
if it's not good, i wont play it, no matter if it has 1000 players or 10 million.
I hope it's good though. because i am a martial arts movie junkie and i would like to play a well translated martial arts game. (wushu looked awesome but i couldnt get past the translation issues- call it petty if you like but its the truth)
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Dwight D Eisenhower
My optimism wears heavy boots and is loud.
Henry Rollins
Don't worry man. The hipsters are just giving B n S the same treatment they have been giving Wildstar the last few days. An mmo is praised or doing well? Apparently, that is not allowed around here. No soup for you!
Amazing, 195 servers! I can see why they went to China and not the US 1st. Still I hope the game does come out over here, it is now over 12 months since we've received an update/announcement/picture/tweet.