.. they will piss and moan and call F2P'ers "freeloaders" .. but at least they have a game they feel others are playing too, even when they don't understand that people who never pay a nickle make their game enjoyable for themselves =D
Even more, those are the ones who farm them subbers the quick cash so they don't have to rely on goldsellers
If there are no more "freeloaders", who will buy from the subscribers the unlocks they purchase for CC and put on the GTN? lol
You aren't the only one that doesn't play SWTOR because of the super greedy "F2P" model SWTOR has. It is by far one of the worst F2P options I have seen in a long time. The only thing worse would be if it were P2W as well (which as far as I know, it isn't....yet).
If SWTOR had a respectable F2P model akin to AION, RIFT, or TERA with the optional sub fee to access extra features I would jump into SWTOR quite often. But as it stands with the substantial limits on the game I won't be installing it anytime soon.
Ok so Swtor is super greedy they let you play multiple class stories for free level 1-50 again completely free.
So what should we call those that cry it's not free enough? Do some people just have no self respect anymore or read what they write. Your crying cause a form of entertainment is not free enough really? Plus you admit to not even playing this game but still felt the need to let everyone know it's not free enough for you. Really?
F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
But f2p makes more money look at league of legends, look at well I cant think of anymore f2p titles worth playing, it comes back to you get what you pay for, want to play for free thats fine you will sacrifice quality. Want quality? It's going to cost you $15 a month but it's worth the peace of mind knowing you can pay once and then enjoy the game rather than juggling micro transactions.
Gamers that are from the beginning not willing to pay a dime for a game are trash in the eyes of game devs. So you see, you have made EA a favor when you quit playing.
Originally posted by Vutar F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
Not all F2P games are like that. Take Rift for example. It's one of the best f2p systems out there.
Swtor is just an extreme example of how restrictive the f2p market can be.
Originally posted by Vutar F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
Not all F2P games are like that. Take Rift for example. It's one of the best f2p systems out there.
Swtor is just an extreme example of how restrictive the f2p market can be.
Not all sub games include everything for a flat fee either.
Originally posted by Kicksave321 Originally posted by ktanner3Yeah screw EA for trying to make money. Fight the man!
Yeah screw Sony, Microsoft, blizzard, Nike, McD, ford, Pepsi, coke, pro sports teams, movie theaters, people that own parking ramps , someone trying to sell a house, the kid selling popcorn so he can go on a trip with his/her group, the airlines, screw all these I am entitled to all their products for free!! How dare they try and make money!!
Yeah there's this thing called greed and ethics....
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You aren't the only one that doesn't play SWTOR because of the super greedy "F2P" model SWTOR has. It is by far one of the worst F2P options I have seen in a long time. The only thing worse would be if it were P2W as well (which as far as I know, it isn't....yet).
If SWTOR had a respectable F2P model akin to AION, RIFT, or TERA with the optional sub fee to access extra features I would jump into SWTOR quite often. But as it stands with the substantial limits on the game I won't be installing it anytime soon.
Ok so Swtor is super greedy they let you play multiple class stories for free level 1-50 again completely free.
So what should we call those that cry it's not free enough? Do some people just have no self respect anymore or read what they write. Your crying cause a form of entertainment is not free enough really? Plus you admit to not even playing this game but still felt the need to let everyone know it's not free enough for you. Really?
How about AION, TERA or RIFT that let you play the entire game for free with no limitations at all. No UI limitations. No Warzone weekly limitations. No instance limitations. No class or race limitations.
Face it you can be a fanboy all you want but SWTOR's F2P pales in comparison to some of the more honest F2P models out there. They could create cosmetics to sell, mounts to sell, XP Potions possibly all on top of the sub and they would probably make out way better in the long run because only the super dedicated Star Wars fans are playing right now.
Like I said I would play consistently if it were not so nickel and dime mode, and would probably end up paying the sub for awhile after getting back into the game. But as it stands now that will never happen.
And I used to play SWTOR. Had 50 Powertech Bounty Hunter back when cap was at 50. I was completely PVP geared.
"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then weve got another one that is actually going to be so were going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what were targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you cant hold me to it. But what were targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo
Originally posted by Vutar F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
People similar to you, complained about subscription costs until F2P was brought in to replace it. Everyone got what they asked for, unfortunately. What they really meant to say is that they expect game companies to make games for free. Because, you know, that makes sense for a business plan.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Right, because we totally can judge what all future f2p games will be like based on the one with the widely recognized worst model, the one that does almost everything wrong, and not models that do almost everything right *coughAionLineage2andTeracough*
Except that it wasn't the payment model that made P2P go terribly wrong. It was the shitty mmo companies churning out endless piles of shit they said were going to be scene changers but ended up being broken WoW clones. That is what forced everyone into thinking "WOW MAN! THIS F2P IS SO GREAT!!!"
I will always stand by a sub fee rather then a nickel and dime gutting fee that f2p pile of shit games charge. All sub games that go f2p were part of the disease that is killing this genre. Not the payment model.
I can spend 15 dollars a month to have full access to SWTOR or I can pay hundreds of dollars a month to keep unlocking the features in the cash shop to have the same access as a sub. But hey! at least it would be free then right?! No sub!
Idiots.
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Originally posted by Vutar F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
People similar to you, complained about subscription costs until F2P was brought in to replace it. Everyone got what they asked for, unfortunately. What they really meant to say is that they expect game companies to make games for free. Because, you know, that makes sense for a business plan.
Nobody complained about subscription costs with SWTOR.... That was EA making false claims as to why their game was dying at an alarming rate. People stopped playing SWTOR because it was terrible once you got through your first story character. Operations were broken. The PvP gearing system was asinine, and Illum was a joke.
"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then weve got another one that is actually going to be so were going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what were targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you cant hold me to it. But what were targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo
Originally posted by Vutar F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
People similar to you, complained about subscription costs until F2P was brought in to replace it. Everyone got what they asked for, unfortunately. What they really meant to say is that they expect game companies to make games for free. Because, you know, that makes sense for a business plan.
It went under 500k, but I'm sure that had no influence on their decision to go freemium.. Mmm Hmmm .. right. Thank you for informing us that EA went F2P because they were listening to fans.
EA makes money indirectly off free players anyways, by maintaining a lively appearance within the game world, influencing paying customers to spend even more. It works, at least for a while. Aion saw a humungous influx when they went F2P, for instance. And their profits went up.
This is the case of the OP not understanding the type of f2p he was getting into.
There are MANY types of f2p models. We all know this but for some reason many have a brain wipe once they get into the game and forget this. Swtor converted post-release into the f2p model. It is clearly much more of a f2p trial of the game. The game is still very much a sub game.
Other mmos release and were created from the ground up for the f2p model. Because of this the model is drastically different.
Swtor clearly wants their players to still sub and is why the model is the way it is. It isn't about supporting accessibility for f2p players as you are little more than a "cheapo who won't sub" as they want you to sub. My complaints about Swtor stem more from their cash shop model with how it affects the economy in game for those who do sub as they clearly want it to be a legal real cash for credit service.
People stopped playing SWTOR because it was terrible once you got through your first story character. Operations were broken. The PvP gearing system was asinine, and Illum was a joke.
This is why the game became what it is, instead of what EA though it would be.
Originally posted by Vutar F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
People similar to you, complained about subscription costs until F2P was brought in to replace it. Everyone got what they asked for, unfortunately. What they really meant to say is that they expect game companies to make games for free. Because, you know, that makes sense for a business plan.
It went under 500k, but I'm sure that had no influence on their decision to go freemium.. Mmm Hmmm .. right. Thank you for informing us that EA went F2P because they were listening to fans.
EA makes money indirectly off free players anyways, by maintaining a lively appearance within the game world, influencing paying customers to spend even more. It works, at least for a while. Aion saw a humungous influx when they went F2P, for instance. And their profits went up.
No, what I'm saying is that this has become the 'default' money model now, and companies looking to grow their games will try it because people are cheapskates. I wasn't speaking to the financial state of SWTOR, but pointing out that most MMO's are now F2P because the players demanded it. Companies were quite resistant to the idea at first.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Originally posted by Vutar F2P is the way of the future. Isn't it awesome? Being nickle and dimed to death is wonderful. So much better than those crazy sub games that just include all that stuff for a flat fee.
People similar to you, complained about subscription costs until F2P was brought in to replace it. Everyone got what they asked for, unfortunately. What they really meant to say is that they expect game companies to make games for free. Because, you know, that makes sense for a business plan.
It went under 500k, but I'm sure that had no influence on their decision to go freemium.. Mmm Hmmm .. right. Thank you for informing us that EA went F2P because they were listening to fans.
EA makes money indirectly off free players anyways, by maintaining a lively appearance within the game world, influencing paying customers to spend even more. It works, at least for a while. Aion saw a humungous influx when they went F2P, for instance. And their profits went up.
No, what I'm saying is that this has become the 'default' money model now, and companies looking to grow their games will try it because people are cheapskates. I wasn't speaking to the financial state of SWTOR, but pointing out that most MMO's are now F2P because the players demanded it. Companies were quite resistant to the idea at first.
Cheapskates is a pretty stiff term. People wanted F2P because they didn't feel that SWTOR was worth a subscription fee.
I bought the SWTOR CE for $150 and was willing to pay a monthly sub for the next 10 years......, until EA showed their true colors and cut the development budget, then fired people in multiple rounds. That was a huge downer. It wasn't bad enough that development for this game in 2012 was approaching ZERO.
Am I a cheapskate for going freemium? By your definition, yes. By mine, I'd rather money go to an entity more deserving than EA ..
I have subbed off and on, may sub again. But even though this game tries to be WoW, it is not WoW(*), and there is no desire for me to sub very often. SWTOR gives the appearance of a low budget Star Wars game, essentially, with a huge development price tag. The price tag is EA's fault, not mine.
(*) Alterac Valley in Wow did 40v40 flawlessly. On the same machine SWTOR handles 5v5 without problems, but 40v40 gives less than 1 FPS, which is why the PVP portion of planet Illum was deleted early on. Embarrassing, really.
Only been playing this game for a few weeks but right away I can tell you this is not a game I will spend money on. Unlike Lotro.
Unfortunately I don't feel the game warrants a sub, as far as the content goes, for me at least. But I also find the F2P model very restrictive as well, hence I am not even going to begin to give them my money in that respect either.
So yea, to me it seems, they have made a game with a payment model that is between a rock and a hard place. I will go as far as I can with the storyline quest without paying. Its all I really want out of this game, the rest is fluff.
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
Obviously the problem the OP has with this game is not the fact that they are charging for access to the game. It is the way they go about it.
It's the same reason people subscribe to HBO. Sure you could watch a movie for free on a local affiliated channel but you would have to sit through the crappy commercials that pop up at annoying points in the experience or the hack editing. Although F2P games are more like having interruptions every 10 mins of the movie, asking if you would like to skip the commercial for a small fee. The point is, the method is found by some, myself included, to be annoying.
I play some free to play, Aion, Rift, Neverwinter, a few others, Never have I had to pay to have access to the UI.
I draw the line there. I was going to pay for the sith, had no issue with that, but to pay for something concerning the UI just doesn't sit right with me at all. way I see it, there is also going to be a charge to make the chat font bigger. That one cost them my business, whoever thought it was a good idea to charge for that has no idea why ftp actually makes money. You kinda got to lure them in farther than level 8.
Buying the sith unlock preferred status wich unlocks 4 hotbars. You should research a little more before discarding a game.
The great thing about life well for most and assuming those posting on here is we are free and have the ability to choose what we do. And a company has the choice to put in place the models or services they see fit. Now since we are free and are not forced to do or buy things we don't like we get options.
So here are your options.
A) sub get everything
spend $5 yes FIVE WHOLE BUCKS and get a lot for free
C) spend nothing get to play the entire game from 1-50 on multiple toons for free.
D) act entitled and think an option should be pay nothing get everything
E) don't like their model so decide to maturely not play and find a new game.
You may think a company is greedy, but we can't say what they think and the majority of people think of people with the entitled to everything for free mentality on here.
Lol, guys we all know. Even if you are a preferred player, the game constantly bashes you over the head to subscribe. So telling him to pay the five bucks to do that is pretty much in vain. The game still reminds you that you are a lowly F2P playyer and you need to sub....
Erm, what did they lose actually? A customer that is not willing to pay? That isn't a loss, it is a relieve of bandwidth and services.
that bandwith is much needed as the engine can't run with >10 players in the same place lol.
Yeah, EA are clearly the winners here, saving bandwith with driving all players out of their game.
All players haha yeah tell that to the million playing every month. Can't run more then 10 players haha how do people run all these 16man Ops?!? EA is making a profit on Swtor cause it got rid of the likes of you so yes ea is the winner here.
yup..they won two golden poohs now, and are heading straight for the third
they won so hard, that they fired their CEO, and their stocks dropped
the World isnt ready for so much win, thats why, we fear them
Oh after a little research I know you don't like facts or current facts but right now ea stock is at $22. If it closes above $20 at years end it will be the highest end of year price since 2008 maybe longer my information didn't go back further. So what were you saying about a stock drop? Yep just another ridiculous claim by you proven wrong.
did swtor launch TODAY?
of course , it still has impact on stock prices, but nowhere near the level, it had at launch
i wasnt specific, i know, but i was talking about launch time
and the recovery? all swtors doing...nothing about a new CEO, and a deal with all future SW games
Erm, what did they lose actually? A customer that is not willing to pay? That isn't a loss, it is a relieve of bandwidth and services.
that bandwith is much needed as the engine can't run with >10 players in the same place lol.
Yeah, EA are clearly the winners here, saving bandwith with driving all players out of their game.
All players haha yeah tell that to the million playing every month. Can't run more then 10 players haha how do people run all these 16man Ops?!? EA is making a profit on Swtor cause it got rid of the likes of you so yes ea is the winner here.
yup..they won two golden poohs now, and are heading straight for the third
they won so hard, that they fired their CEO, and their stocks dropped
the World isnt ready for so much win, thats why, we fear them
Oh after a little research I know you don't like facts or current facts but right now ea stock is at $22. If it closes above $20 at years end it will be the highest end of year price since 2008 maybe longer my information didn't go back further. So what were you saying about a stock drop? Yep just another ridiculous claim by you proven wrong.
did swtor launch TODAY?
of course , it still has impact on stock prices, but nowhere near the level, it had at launch
i wasnt specific, i know, but i was talking about launch time
and the recovery? all swtors doing...nothing about a new CEO, and a deal with all future SW games
Haha hmm imagine that you thinking about launch time go figure...
nope I didn't say it was all Swtor doing I left that open as to say if it's drop was Swtor fault then it's recovery must be too.
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Even more, those are the ones who farm them subbers the quick cash so they don't have to rely on goldsellers
If there are no more "freeloaders", who will buy from the subscribers the unlocks they purchase for CC and put on the GTN? lol
Amen to that
But f2p makes more money look at league of legends, look at well I cant think of anymore f2p titles worth playing, it comes back to you get what you pay for, want to play for free thats fine you will sacrifice quality. Want quality? It's going to cost you $15 a month but it's worth the peace of mind knowing you can pay once and then enjoy the game rather than juggling micro transactions.Step in the arena and break the wall down
Not all F2P games are like that. Take Rift for example. It's one of the best f2p systems out there.
Swtor is just an extreme example of how restrictive the f2p market can be.
Not all sub games include everything for a flat fee either.
Yeah there's this thing called greed and ethics....
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How about AION, TERA or RIFT that let you play the entire game for free with no limitations at all. No UI limitations. No Warzone weekly limitations. No instance limitations. No class or race limitations.
Face it you can be a fanboy all you want but SWTOR's F2P pales in comparison to some of the more honest F2P models out there. They could create cosmetics to sell, mounts to sell, XP Potions possibly all on top of the sub and they would probably make out way better in the long run because only the super dedicated Star Wars fans are playing right now.
Like I said I would play consistently if it were not so nickel and dime mode, and would probably end up paying the sub for awhile after getting back into the game. But as it stands now that will never happen.
And I used to play SWTOR. Had 50 Powertech Bounty Hunter back when cap was at 50. I was completely PVP geared.
"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then weve got another one that is actually going to be so were going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what were targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you cant hold me to it. But what were targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo
People similar to you, complained about subscription costs until F2P was brought in to replace it. Everyone got what they asked for, unfortunately. What they really meant to say is that they expect game companies to make games for free. Because, you know, that makes sense for a business plan.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Except that it wasn't the payment model that made P2P go terribly wrong. It was the shitty mmo companies churning out endless piles of shit they said were going to be scene changers but ended up being broken WoW clones. That is what forced everyone into thinking "WOW MAN! THIS F2P IS SO GREAT!!!"
I will always stand by a sub fee rather then a nickel and dime gutting fee that f2p pile of shit games charge. All sub games that go f2p were part of the disease that is killing this genre. Not the payment model.
I can spend 15 dollars a month to have full access to SWTOR or I can pay hundreds of dollars a month to keep unlocking the features in the cash shop to have the same access as a sub. But hey! at least it would be free then right?! No sub!
Idiots.
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Nobody complained about subscription costs with SWTOR.... That was EA making false claims as to why their game was dying at an alarming rate. People stopped playing SWTOR because it was terrible once you got through your first story character. Operations were broken. The PvP gearing system was asinine, and Illum was a joke.
"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then weve got another one that is actually going to be so were going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what were targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you cant hold me to it. But what were targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo
And here were all lead to believe that SWTOR went F2P because there were not enough subscriptions to support the game. (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-the-old-republic-needs-only-500k-subscribers-ea/1100-6297338/)
It went under 500k, but I'm sure that had no influence on their decision to go freemium.. Mmm Hmmm .. right. Thank you for informing us that EA went F2P because they were listening to fans.
EA makes money indirectly off free players anyways, by maintaining a lively appearance within the game world, influencing paying customers to spend even more. It works, at least for a while. Aion saw a humungous influx when they went F2P, for instance. And their profits went up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
This is the case of the OP not understanding the type of f2p he was getting into.
There are MANY types of f2p models. We all know this but for some reason many have a brain wipe once they get into the game and forget this. Swtor converted post-release into the f2p model. It is clearly much more of a f2p trial of the game. The game is still very much a sub game.
Other mmos release and were created from the ground up for the f2p model. Because of this the model is drastically different.
Swtor clearly wants their players to still sub and is why the model is the way it is. It isn't about supporting accessibility for f2p players as you are little more than a "cheapo who won't sub" as they want you to sub. My complaints about Swtor stem more from their cash shop model with how it affects the economy in game for those who do sub as they clearly want it to be a legal real cash for credit service.
You stay sassy!
This is why the game became what it is, instead of what EA though it would be.
No, what I'm saying is that this has become the 'default' money model now, and companies looking to grow their games will try it because people are cheapskates. I wasn't speaking to the financial state of SWTOR, but pointing out that most MMO's are now F2P because the players demanded it. Companies were quite resistant to the idea at first.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Cheapskates is a pretty stiff term. People wanted F2P because they didn't feel that SWTOR was worth a subscription fee.
I bought the SWTOR CE for $150 and was willing to pay a monthly sub for the next 10 years......, until EA showed their true colors and cut the development budget, then fired people in multiple rounds. That was a huge downer. It wasn't bad enough that development for this game in 2012 was approaching ZERO.
Am I a cheapskate for going freemium? By your definition, yes. By mine, I'd rather money go to an entity more deserving than EA ..
I have subbed off and on, may sub again. But even though this game tries to be WoW, it is not WoW(*), and there is no desire for me to sub very often. SWTOR gives the appearance of a low budget Star Wars game, essentially, with a huge development price tag. The price tag is EA's fault, not mine.
(*) Alterac Valley in Wow did 40v40 flawlessly. On the same machine SWTOR handles 5v5 without problems, but 40v40 gives less than 1 FPS, which is why the PVP portion of planet Illum was deleted early on. Embarrassing, really.
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
Yes, future. Very dark one.
Only been playing this game for a few weeks but right away I can tell you this is not a game I will spend money on. Unlike Lotro.
Unfortunately I don't feel the game warrants a sub, as far as the content goes, for me at least. But I also find the F2P model very restrictive as well, hence I am not even going to begin to give them my money in that respect either.
So yea, to me it seems, they have made a game with a payment model that is between a rock and a hard place. I will go as far as I can with the storyline quest without paying. Its all I really want out of this game, the rest is fluff.
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
It's the same reason people subscribe to HBO. Sure you could watch a movie for free on a local affiliated channel but you would have to sit through the crappy commercials that pop up at annoying points in the experience or the hack editing. Although F2P games are more like having interruptions every 10 mins of the movie, asking if you would like to skip the commercial for a small fee. The point is, the method is found by some, myself included, to be annoying.
nicle and dime mush better than subscription they are fooling you.
no game should have a sub.games are over prised.
neverwinter gave me hours of fun and I did not spend a cent.
Buying the sith unlock preferred status wich unlocks 4 hotbars. You should research a little more before discarding a game.
The great thing about life well for most and assuming those posting on here is we are free and have the ability to choose what we do. And a company has the choice to put in place the models or services they see fit. Now since we are free and are not forced to do or buy things we don't like we get options.
So here are your options.
A) sub get everything
C) spend nothing get to play the entire game from 1-50 on multiple toons for free.
D) act entitled and think an option should be pay nothing get everything
E) don't like their model so decide to maturely not play and find a new game.
You may think a company is greedy, but we can't say what they think and the majority of people think of people with the entitled to everything for free mentality on here.
Lol, guys we all know. Even if you are a preferred player, the game constantly bashes you over the head to subscribe. So telling him to pay the five bucks to do that is pretty much in vain. The game still reminds you that you are a lowly F2P playyer and you need to sub....
I mean, the game is alright but eh....
did swtor launch TODAY?
of course , it still has impact on stock prices, but nowhere near the level, it had at launch
i wasnt specific, i know, but i was talking about launch time
and the recovery? all swtors doing...nothing about a new CEO, and a deal with all future SW games
Haha hmm imagine that you thinking about launch time go figure...
nope I didn't say it was all Swtor doing I left that open as to say if it's drop was Swtor fault then it's recovery must be too.