In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
Total Biscuit doesn't know when to shut up sometimes. LMAO. I only say that because he has a thirty minute video on it. He could have got to the point in ten.
This honestly calls for hour long videos this is after all what they do for a living, and the thought of no longer having good videos produced because of this has me slightly worried for future reviews. (Total Halibut/Angry Joe/Rev3Games etc.) I'm a big fan of Total Halibut and every single time that man speaks, I swear my very own IQ jumps up if only for a little while.
His voice and intellectual values are at a divine level I could listen to him way longer than 30-minutes, and does not come off as annoying one bit. He also makes very good points!
In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
"Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
Originally posted by lizardbonesI would say it's a questionable decision to base your life and income on a platform that has no obligation to continue "as is". Sure it's fun, but at any time, for any reason bad or good that platform can get pulled out from under you.
Based on that observation, no job is safe, because nothing is obligated to continue "as is". I see no difference between youtubers decisions to make an income based on viewership and other media platforms / performers / actors doing the same thing.
It is certainly true that there is very little obligation for the world to remain "as is". The difference is that the entire platform being used isn't usually controlled by one entity with no recourse if that entity decides to change something. The movie industry, magazine and newspaper industries and the television industry are not controlled by one entity who can arbitrarily decide to change a rule that eliminates the income of every person using those industries. Even Microsoft is limited in what it can do with Windows because of market pressure. The people using Youtube to generate income on things like game reviews or playthroughs are entirely beholden to Google. They have no recourse, legal or otherwise if Google decides to change the rules. There is no alternative to Google and Youtube to do this type of thing. Again, it's a questionable decision to base your life and income on a platform that you have no control over, which can change at any time.
True man. Very true. But there are also people out there who for whatever reason had little other recourse in life that YouTube made a part of my life. Guys like Boogie2988 in particular who really would have nothing and likely be dead in a ditch without the tube giving him a valued voice on the net. Even PewDiePie to a degree (I love and hate him. Okay I lean a little toward hate but still.) Without that outlet to sell their personality and your game ... I look at those guys, even Joe, and think they are about to be rolled over and they do not deserve it for these reasons. Big money killing small business all over again.
But unlike biscuit, I am not sure the industry he is part of is here to stay. Even TWITCH is going to be in trouble. It may be automated but he is yet to get who is filing the claims regardless of ownership.
I personally do not agree with most of our copyright based industries. I'm not at all sure that copyrights and patents do anything but hinder competition and protect businesses that aren't innovating anything against companies that could really improve things. At the same time I have the limited viewpoint of a consumer who would rather companies spent money on making new things rather than spending money suing other companies because of old things. It's a simple point of view which means there's probably something wrong with it.
I absolutely do not believe Google is doing this arbitrarily. There is some benefit to Google, even if it's just to show content holders that Google can automatically flag and protect copyrighted content at the cost of the revenue generated by the game videos. Like many other things I think it sucks, and would prefer a much more "Wild West" way of doing things, but again, my point of view is somewhat limited.
In that environment, I think making money and a living from the videos is awesome. I watched Boogie's "Draw My Life" video and it really was inspirational. I would not give up my day job to pursue a career on Youtube though. Google could do something just to prove a point and wipe out my entire media empire because I compose one one hundredth of one percent of a small demographic of Youtubers.
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I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
"Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
Uhh... I never said they were. The thought never even crossed my mind. I support Angry Joe, I wish him all the best and much success. I just happen to know the world a little too well. Lars Ulrich and big business gotta have their way and they'll keep that crusade going until death if necessary. You gotta know your environment and your business and you have to be prepared with a backup plan for when the crap hits the fan.
In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
"Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Distopia Originally posted by DrakynnOriginally posted by ApocalypseSunriseIn a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation."Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
The money comes from advertising revenue generated through Google's ad network. It would be easy enough to create a user posted video site, but it's the advertising network that is necessary to make money and that's the part that's going to stop a lot of people.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
"Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
The reason they don't is because they don't have the money or clout to deal with the lawsuits. They are taking advantage of other people's intellectual property in order to make money. If they want to continue using IP that isn't theirs, they should probably follow the law and pay the creator for the rights.
Just another example of people thinking they are entitled to something that they aren't.
In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
"Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
I can agree with that but most of those who have made it big enough to support themselves have split themselves between youtube and twitch and have there own websites with content.I'm sure they are also keeping an eye out tot he future looking to where they next big thing to host their content will be,because there will always be some other service to fill the void if youtube and twitch become unviable.
I don;t think this will happen in this case though as I expect most of the game industry to step in and clear this up because these guys are good advertising for them where all the work is done for them.It must be noted that aside from Nintendo and very occasionally EA none of this is coming from game developers/publishers themselves.
In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
"Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
The reason they don't is because they don't have the money or clout to deal with the lawsuits. They are taking advantage of other people's intellectual property in order to make money. If they want to continue using IP that isn't theirs, they should probably follow the law and pay the creator for the rights.
Just another example of people thinking they are entitled to something that they aren't.
If what Joe was saying is true, you're wrong here. I"ve never looked into to it so I have no idea, but according to him what he does is within the law, as by law you're allowed to show clips when reviewing a product.
Unless of course you're saying they're piggying on the backs of these companies and exploiting their product to make a living. That may have some truth to it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by ApocalypseSunriseIn a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation."Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
The money comes from advertising revenue generated through Google's ad network. It would be easy enough to create a user posted video site, but it's the advertising network that is necessary to make money and that's the part that's going to stop a lot of people.
It's views (clicks) that matter in that regard, these guys have popularity and a following. Get a few together on one site, that could be very successful.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by ApocalypseSunriseIn a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation."Don't quit your day job."
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
The money comes from advertising revenue generated through Google's ad network. It would be easy enough to create a user posted video site, but it's the advertising network that is necessary to make money and that's the part that's going to stop a lot of people.
It's views (clicks) that matter in that regard, these guys have popularity and a following. Get a few together on one site, that could be very successful.
The thing is, once there is a popular medium it is virtually impossible to switch. Just ask Google +. Google rode the backs of the content creator, building up youtube and changed the rules.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
I can agree with that but most of those who have made it big enough to support themselves have split themselves between youtube and twitch and have there own websites with content.I'm sure they are also keeping an eye out tot he future looking to where they next big thing to host their content will be,because there will always be some other service to fill the void if youtube and twitch become unviable.
I don;t think this will happen in this case though as I expect most of the game industry to step in and clear this up because these guys are good advertising for them where all the work is done for them.It must be noted that aside from Nintendo and very occasionally EA none of this is coming from game developers/publishers themselves.
Yeah hopefully they can get it worked out I like watching Joe's reviews, i have nothing against what he does per say, I'm just not sure I'd take his route and quit my job to rely solely on Youtube for income even if I was successful at it as a hobby.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yeah, the kick in the nuts was when they blocked Angry Joe's Tomb Raider Interview.
Adam Sessler had a great discussion with a few others about this very topic in the above video. Nintendo is one of the bigger culprits, they have assured that I will never buy another Nintendo product again. In the end this really affects the smaller guys who are just starting out, whereas the major content creators have secure partnerships that protect them. It is also a smack in the face to small indie games who rely on this sort of marketing to promote their games.
So who wins? The large game developers and the situated content creators who have partnership protection.
It's views (clicks) that matter in that regard, these guys have popularity and a following. Get a few together on one site, that could be very successful.
The thing is, once there is a popular medium it is virtually impossible to switch. Just ask Google +. Google rode the backs of the content creator, building up youtube and changed the rules.
That's true, their site would certainly need other pulls outside of streaming game reviews. I'm not saying there's not a lot of competition, because there is, the one thing going for them is they're far more entertaining and creative than the typical IGN people, or other folks like them in this industry.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Not sure if this was put in this thread, but why not just switch to Twitch to do game reviews? On top of everything else you instantly get an audience that is 100% there to watch videos on video games so you're directly with your target audience. Twitch is also growing very quickly.
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf Not sure if this was put in this thread, but why not just switch to Twitch to do game reviews? On top of everything else you instantly get an audience that is 100% there to watch videos on video games so you're directly with your target audience. Twitch is also growing very quickly.
Not sure, but what does Twitch pay compared to youtube? My guess is that is not even close so again my guess is that is why.
Moving to a new video hosting site, or to have their own site for the big guys doesn't help a whole lot, when there are people or companies flagging copyright violations simply because they can and it's apparently easy money. Kind of a dick move on their part. They squeeze money from parent Google, but inadvertently affect their very own customers now that YouTube policy is changing.
If gamers move to Vimeo, or any other site, then next thing we know, Vimeo is getting sued, etc. Twitch may be next... so it's probably a good thing this is getting talked about early on.
It'd be interesting to see which devs / publishers / music industries are actively submitting IP violation notices on video games, either through their real name or an unknown subdivision name. They should be ashamed to report (directly or indirectly via sound/video sample upload) walk-throughs, gameplays, tricks / cheats, achievements, reviews, etc. That's what I use YouTube mostly for anyways.
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf Not sure if this was put in this thread, but why not just switch to Twitch to do game reviews? On top of everything else you instantly get an audience that is 100% there to watch videos on video games so you're directly with your target audience. Twitch is also growing very quickly.
Not sure, but what does Twitch pay compared to youtube? My guess is that is not even close so again my guess is that is why.
Bwana on Twitch gets appox50-100 views every day and it requires him to have a donation pool up, on good days he gets well above 300+ viewers. In order to make a living running live streams on Twitch, it would require 800-1000 constant viewers and assuming you stream 6-hours a day.
Dansgaming is making a good living with well above 2000+ viewers, streaming on Twitch is probably a better option to getting somewhere than on youtube begging for sub4subs. Twitch is the way to go if you're just starting out. (My opinion)
Did they say MCM's were immune to this? Well I don't agree there,..only if you got the money to 'pay them off'.
It's a slippery slope,..there are alot of freeloading snakes out there looking for a lazy job or free hand outs,..Angry Joe Not being one of them.
Especially in this day and age in the U.S. We've moved from a manufacturing economy to a service based one. It's all intangible,...what can people do to make a living now? Turning to the internet seems the most obvious and accesable to many, imho.
Id also like to add that even if you had 100,000 subscribers which is considered to be well above the subscriber count for the average Youtuber. Less than half will care to watch that newly released video, where as if you're streaming you can gain that viewer much easier than on Youtube. Live views are worth more than already recorded and uploaded views, plus its a-lot more exciting to watch things happen live.
If you become a partner with Twitch you can have your own subscriber base ($5 Monthly's) including a Donation Pool which really works well in Bwana's favor, that guy always has a new donation his way every single time he streams. (Whether you consider it a good thing to ask for donations or not, that's his way of making a living.) (Cant Judge Em)
He comes off sounding like a little bitch who's angry about having to get a real job again. Yes, I think the underlying content flagging system is a little messed up, but he's basically been able to make a living doing nothing but playing games talking about them. If he wants to keep doing that, then he should build a website and host it all himself.
Ranting about it like a spoiled child for all the world to see isn't really a great move.
He comes off sounding like a little bitch who's angry about having to get a real job again. Yes, I think the underlying content flagging system is a little messed up, but he's basically been able to make a living doing nothing but playing games talking about them. If he wants to keep doing that, then he should build a website and host it all himself.
Ranting about it like a spoiled child for all the world to see isn't really a great move.
I agree about making your own site. He's had 4 years of building a viewer base. It can work.
I found out about Spill.com from youtube videos. And now exclusively goto their site for content. Well,..they are about to close their doors, unfortunately,.but it's been years!
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In a world of ourscourcing and big business screwing over the little guy we here in the U.S. have an old saying that seems to apply in this little situation.
"Don't quit your day job."
Yes, I've read a poem. Try not to faint.
This honestly calls for hour long videos this is after all what they do for a living, and the thought of no longer having good videos produced because of this has me slightly worried for future reviews. (Total Halibut/Angry Joe/Rev3Games etc.) I'm a big fan of Total Halibut and every single time that man speaks, I swear my very own IQ jumps up if only for a little while.
His voice and intellectual values are at a divine level
I could listen to him way longer than 30-minutes, and does not come off as annoying one bit. He also makes very good points!
Him & Joe is the way to go.
Most youtubers haven't quit their day jobs,most DO NOT make enough money from youtube or Twitch to support themselves by that income source alone.Only a very few have gotten big enough to do so.It's another misconception that most of these youtubers are rolling in cash.
I personally do not agree with most of our copyright based industries. I'm not at all sure that copyrights and patents do anything but hinder competition and protect businesses that aren't innovating anything against companies that could really improve things. At the same time I have the limited viewpoint of a consumer who would rather companies spent money on making new things rather than spending money suing other companies because of old things. It's a simple point of view which means there's probably something wrong with it.
I absolutely do not believe Google is doing this arbitrarily. There is some benefit to Google, even if it's just to show content holders that Google can automatically flag and protect copyrighted content at the cost of the revenue generated by the game videos. Like many other things I think it sucks, and would prefer a much more "Wild West" way of doing things, but again, my point of view is somewhat limited.
In that environment, I think making money and a living from the videos is awesome. I watched Boogie's "Draw My Life" video and it really was inspirational. I would not give up my day job to pursue a career on Youtube though. Google could do something just to prove a point and wipe out my entire media empire because I compose one one hundredth of one percent of a small demographic of Youtubers.
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I mean D@mmit ApocalypseSunrise.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Just wanted to quote for truth here.
Judge less folks, least your job be deemed 'less than proper'
What do you guys do that is soo proper and 'real' that makes other jobs 'less' real?
This is terrible what youtube is doing, they need a policy change and fast. Vimeo is light years better anyway though.
Uhh... I never said they were. The thought never even crossed my mind. I support Angry Joe, I wish him all the best and much success. I just happen to know the world a little too well. Lars Ulrich and big business gotta have their way and they'll keep that crusade going until death if necessary. You gotta know your environment and your business and you have to be prepared with a backup plan for when the crap hits the fan.
Yes, I've read a poem. Try not to faint.
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The problem is using youtube to make money, it's not exactly stable. Nor is there any real power in the hands of those using it for income, quitting your day job to rely solely on this as your "lively hood" isn't exactly a smart move, as this cluster#### is showing. I'm not sure why some of these guys don't just get together and form their own site. At least that way they're not under google's or Youtube's control.
The money comes from advertising revenue generated through Google's ad network. It would be easy enough to create a user posted video site, but it's the advertising network that is necessary to make money and that's the part that's going to stop a lot of people.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
The reason they don't is because they don't have the money or clout to deal with the lawsuits. They are taking advantage of other people's intellectual property in order to make money. If they want to continue using IP that isn't theirs, they should probably follow the law and pay the creator for the rights.
Just another example of people thinking they are entitled to something that they aren't.
I can agree with that but most of those who have made it big enough to support themselves have split themselves between youtube and twitch and have there own websites with content.I'm sure they are also keeping an eye out tot he future looking to where they next big thing to host their content will be,because there will always be some other service to fill the void if youtube and twitch become unviable.
I don;t think this will happen in this case though as I expect most of the game industry to step in and clear this up because these guys are good advertising for them where all the work is done for them.It must be noted that aside from Nintendo and very occasionally EA none of this is coming from game developers/publishers themselves.
If what Joe was saying is true, you're wrong here. I"ve never looked into to it so I have no idea, but according to him what he does is within the law, as by law you're allowed to show clips when reviewing a product.
Unless of course you're saying they're piggying on the backs of these companies and exploiting their product to make a living. That may have some truth to it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It's views (clicks) that matter in that regard, these guys have popularity and a following. Get a few together on one site, that could be very successful.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The thing is, once there is a popular medium it is virtually impossible to switch. Just ask Google +. Google rode the backs of the content creator, building up youtube and changed the rules.
Yeah hopefully they can get it worked out I like watching Joe's reviews, i have nothing against what he does per say, I'm just not sure I'd take his route and quit my job to rely solely on Youtube for income even if I was successful at it as a hobby.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yeah, the kick in the nuts was when they blocked Angry Joe's Tomb Raider Interview.
Adam Sessler had a great discussion with a few others about this very topic in the above video. Nintendo is one of the bigger culprits, they have assured that I will never buy another Nintendo product again. In the end this really affects the smaller guys who are just starting out, whereas the major content creators have secure partnerships that protect them. It is also a smack in the face to small indie games who rely on this sort of marketing to promote their games.
So who wins? The large game developers and the situated content creators who have partnership protection.
That's true, their site would certainly need other pulls outside of streaming game reviews. I'm not saying there's not a lot of competition, because there is, the one thing going for them is they're far more entertaining and creative than the typical IGN people, or other folks like them in this industry.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Not sure, but what does Twitch pay compared to youtube? My guess is that is not even close so again my guess is that is why.
Moving to a new video hosting site, or to have their own site for the big guys doesn't help a whole lot, when there are people or companies flagging copyright violations simply because they can and it's apparently easy money. Kind of a dick move on their part. They squeeze money from parent Google, but inadvertently affect their very own customers now that YouTube policy is changing.
If gamers move to Vimeo, or any other site, then next thing we know, Vimeo is getting sued, etc. Twitch may be next... so it's probably a good thing this is getting talked about early on.
It'd be interesting to see which devs / publishers / music industries are actively submitting IP violation notices on video games, either through their real name or an unknown subdivision name. They should be ashamed to report (directly or indirectly via sound/video sample upload) walk-throughs, gameplays, tricks / cheats, achievements, reviews, etc. That's what I use YouTube mostly for anyways.
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
Bwana on Twitch gets appox50-100 views every day and it requires him to have a donation pool up, on good days he gets well above 300+ viewers. In order to make a living running live streams on Twitch, it would require 800-1000 constant viewers and assuming you stream 6-hours a day.
Dansgaming is making a good living with well above 2000+ viewers, streaming on Twitch is probably a better option to getting somewhere than on youtube begging for sub4subs. Twitch is the way to go if you're just starting out. (My opinion)
Did they say MCM's were immune to this? Well I don't agree there,..only if you got the money to 'pay them off'.
It's a slippery slope,..there are alot of freeloading snakes out there looking for a lazy job or free hand outs,..Angry Joe Not being one of them.
Especially in this day and age in the U.S. We've moved from a manufacturing economy to a service based one. It's all intangible,...what can people do to make a living now? Turning to the internet seems the most obvious and accesable to many, imho.
Fight the good fight!
Don't mess with Dodger!
Well it looks like Blizzard, Ubisoft and Capcom are offering support to youtube content creators.
Why cant I paste a link in here? Anyways, google the gamespot article.
Id also like to add that even if you had 100,000 subscribers which is considered to be well above the subscriber count for the average Youtuber. Less than half will care to watch that newly released video, where as if you're streaming you can gain that viewer much easier than on Youtube. Live views are worth more than already recorded and uploaded views, plus its a-lot more exciting to watch things happen live.
If you become a partner with Twitch you can have your own subscriber base ($5 Monthly's) including a Donation Pool which really works well in Bwana's favor, that guy always has a new donation his way every single time he streams. (Whether you consider it a good thing to ask for donations or not, that's his way of making a living.) (Cant Judge Em)
He comes off sounding like a little bitch who's angry about having to get a real job again. Yes, I think the underlying content flagging system is a little messed up, but he's basically been able to make a living doing nothing but playing games talking about them. If he wants to keep doing that, then he should build a website and host it all himself.
Ranting about it like a spoiled child for all the world to see isn't really a great move.
You make me like charity
I agree about making your own site. He's had 4 years of building a viewer base. It can work.
I found out about Spill.com from youtube videos. And now exclusively goto their site for content. Well,..they are about to close their doors, unfortunately,.but it's been years!