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Hyanmen
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/03843d6bf7ba69adc37d7955ff7af43f3c43828a
The update is a bit on the small side but I guess it'll do.
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Or you can just buy them (mats or the gear), the way its meant to be done.
Honestly the crafters in this game (especially the ones with all crafts at 50) are so clueless it's not even funny.
With that kind of housing prices I don't see money becoming meaningless anytime soon. It's practically the currency if you want to participate in the housing content. Not to mention the furniture will use giant amounts of gathering/crafting mats creating massive boosts to demand.
Now SE simply needs to get rid of the part of the playerbase that can't get excited about anything that doesn't raise their item level by five and can't be worn on your character. Soon...
Random theorizing: maybe this will reduce demand on high priced ilvl70 crafted gear, lowering the prices and giving more players the opportunity to skip the ilvl70 tome grind altogether.
They have been getting rid of RMT gil quite effectively. Botters are still there but the characters holding the dough get the banhammer.
Stupid is assuming that SE is not in control of the RMT based on the fact bots don't get banned instantly.
So you think legit players have 625 million gil lol? C'mon man...
I think the prices are way, way too high, but to each their own. 625 million gil is the equivalent of like 6.25 billion gil in 1.0 lol...
So you think players are entitled to the 625mil gil plot on Dec. 17th?
Legit players absolutely will have that amount of gil in time. To think that everything should be offered on a silver plate without having to work for anything is the WoW mentality at its best.
I think the prices across the board are too high for something like player housing, yes. Did I say I wanted it handed to me on a silver platter? No. This is the trouble with arguing with fanboys; you guys get your panties into such a twist that it deprives your brains of oxygen leading to the inability to see any type of criticism as simple criticism instead of hating/trolling/WoW entitlement etc.
It's 62.5 million, not 625 million.
62,500,000g.
If you people are going to argue about numbers, at least get the damn numbers right.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
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Ah, okay. Sorry, only looked at the first chart. Was wondering where 625 mil was coming from.
Nevermind me. Carry on!
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
#IStandWithVic
This is Free Company housing. My bad, I thought you knew at least this much before coming here to criticize the system. I guess even that was too much asked.
Players use the houses don't they? I know it's FC housing.
Yet you act like 625 millions is one man's burden. Hell, that plot of land is dedicated for the no lifers to whom 625 mils is piss in the wind (in a few months time at least). Better than dedicating the gear progression to those kind of folks, I say. But also better than something even more meaningless like achievements for no lifers to chase. Achievements are lame for e-peen. Twintania's tail on the fireplace of your mansion on the other hand? You the top dawg of FFXIV son.
You taking the highest prices of a scalable system (the no lifers version of a housing plot) and running with it? I don't know what the hell you were expecting in all honesty, communism? There's gotta be a carrot for everyone dude. There is a group of people out there who don't consider the price "too high". You're just not the demographic of this plot of land.
The very smallest house is 20 million which is still insane considering it's basically the size of an inn room. It takes more dedication to get the gil for a house than it does to raid at this point lol. Even with a huge 500 member FC, 625 million is more than a million per member.
I'm just not sure how they arrived at these numbers. It's a great way to get a ton of gil out of the economy, but I don't think a casual feature that should be enjoyed by all (IMO) should be so heavily gated by currency. Sure, the hugest mansion should take some work, but... 625 MILLION GIL! It's a ridiculous number.
Like I said though, aside from housing and the CT "issues" I think this is a great patch, but these two really leave me with a WTF feeling.
WoW just WoW! Why does SE think people are going to be able to afford GC housing? Im on the second tier/ first class plot (Sargatanas) , but this is rediculous. 325 million? even after the 90 days it comes out to around 162 million! Im a crafter purely who has only around 5 million but do they really think people in my LS has a s much? Don't get me wrong things shouldn't be too easy but this is outrageous! Gil since 1.0 is only worth 1/10 of the price originally.
Crafting in the game is a joke and never really makes any money. you have to do carrot on a stick to make huge profits! buying stuff off the AH to make HQ 70 gear is not a sure thing as it makes only minimal profits 20-40k and since the patch announcement that gear does not sale anymore and prices are rock bottom over here!
I think I'm done with FFXIV. loved FFXI and thought the new team was going to take the game in a direction i liked even after the 1.0 fiasco. Don't get me wrong I love the new changes, but stripping gold away (had 47 mil in 1.0 to 4.7 million) and making things almost impossible, will do nothing but bring back RMT's and their spamming! Atleast GW2 got it right and made their own RMT!
Below is where we can disscuss and come up with new ideas for Sandparks!
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5164689#5164689
SE should make some subsidized housing projects sponsered by each city-state. You could recieve some type of coupon or voucher thru the mail system that comes on the first of the month. Maybe these underprivileged players can also get some kind of special title too.
They could do this with mounts as well. Free Chocobo Porter vouchers because getting a mount is pretty expensive if you think about it... Scraping together the seals for that is really time consuming & ain't nobody got time for that.
It's not about fun or popular feature. In an effort to combat RMT they have made everything based on schizophrenic conspiracy theories of what RMT might do.
Large Plot, 1st class FC house will be around 800 million Gil.
Crafting is a shit show and if you read through you will see they actually nerfed the pay out for triple turn in. The top tier payout is leve point capped at 2.2 mill a month and they nerfed it.
Huge gil sinks will further increase RMT and that is something Square has never been able to control.
There is always going to be a fine line between rarity and cost and Square needs to do a better job at thinking it out before releasing ideas.
I agree they will not change combat,the design is too embedded now,however as they increase levels they will most certainly make some real dumb moves as they did in FFXI,just to keep players coming back for more time sinks on gear.That is why i chose to stay away from Square Enix this time around,i saw that they did not change their ways in FFXI and continue to make the same mistakes and lame moves on higher end content,so i no longer trust them to "keep it fun".
I actually disagree with adding quests to level,that is what made me like FFXI so much,questing treadmills are so Wow and EQ2 and i find it extremely boring,nothing worse than running back n forth between npc's.You don't even need NPC's in games just have a yellow question mark or a board to click and accomplishes the same thing.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
"In an effort to combat RMT they have substantially increased the value of gil in the world economy."
"Large Plot, 1st class FC houses will be around 800 million (numbers out of the butt) Gil on servers with hyperinflated three-year-old economies for the first few days post-patch."
"Crafting is a shit show. You can only make less than 2.2 million a month with it now at minimum."
If the haters at least tried to they could make better complaints. Even better if they don't use backwards thinking (raising gil value combats RMT?).
lol 20 mil for the bare minimum house. I think our combined wealth is around 2 mil. Looks like we got some work to do hehe. Probably in 90 days, I'll have ten mil. And the price will be around that.