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Because EVE has mostly adult (in age) subs, EVE is a total sandbox and most players that have tried WOW find EVE too difficult as the game doesnt hold your hand from start to finish.
Most players like to be spoonfed.
There may only be like "only" 60.000 players on at Primetime...what gives EVE the edge is that no other major MMO (no fanbois, not even the allmighty WOW) can field that amount of players on a single servershard.
Don't need 10M EVE players, already too many players there calling for nerfs to make it more WOW player friendly.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
IMO the one thing which can save MMOs is fresh meat. I am sick of hearing about Ultima Online and Everquest and how things used to be so great back in the days, and how everything made today stinks and is doomed even before launch.
Maybe a few million ES-fans can help old farts like myself to understand that they can play a game and enjoy it for what it is -or not.
I don't know why it would bother me if people have difference of opinions about an mmorpg. I don't care if they like it or dislike it, bash it or praise it. If I like an mmorpg, I play it. If I don't I won't, no one's opinion is going to change my mind about it. Why would I stifle their opinions, they have a right to theirs as do I, mine.
My question would be, why take it so seriously, and get personally offended?
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot
This post is for anyone that is concerned about ESO. Don't be... I have played it, and it is Hella fun. Let me put it this way out of all the next Gen MMO's I've played such as GW2,Wildstar,FF14ARR,Firefall and Defiance. ESO is by far the most fun. FYI I've never played the series except for a little Skyrim, so I'm no fan boy.
I've seen enough ESO bashing to last me a while, and no doubt, once the NDA is lifted, it'll get heavier. I've played the beta a few times. I'm a big ESO fan. My favorite game of all time is Morrowind, which I played for the XBox a hundred years ago (and just installed on the pc to play again). I'm a big mmo fan. As far as I'm concerned, ESO is going to be great for me.
I've given up caring what others think.
You mean this?
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
I suggest YOU read it, the FIRST WORDS IN BOLD.
"Everyone who dislikes your work is right."
Followed immediately by
"This is the hardest pill to swallow. I’ve never gotten a piece of feedback that was wrong. You see, you can’t deny a player their unique experience. Whatever they felt, was true. For them. And something in your work triggered it."
Further down.
"People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is. Especially watch out for the ones who tell you that nobody understands your genius."
The problem isn't from people who find bad in games, its from people who dismiss it or say to stop because they disagree. YOU shut communities and communication down. You keep a bad game from improving and keep populations low because you want it YOUR way or exactly how the developers made it, instead of allowing it to improve and be for more people.
Raph Koster is one of the few developers that have been invited to speak at every single GDC there was for this very reason. He knows the industry and not just the game making part of it but also the player side of it.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
"Playing" and "Paying" are 2 different words............
SWTOR and GW2 have more players than EVE indeed.............. but EVE has more paying customers, so it's making more money.
And EVE cost a fraction of SWTOR to make and do not have a huge IP to support it.
SWTOR and GW2 had a budget of blockbuster movies, but they are humbled by a low cost Sci-Fi Indie Sandbox, that should tell you something about the quality of said games.
lol, then why are these games thriving? No, most of the bashers here, including those that are trying to shove our imaginations back down our throats by condemning things not even out yet are pretty much wrong. I come here mostly to catch up on new games that sound fun, but have so many times been caught up in negative hate towards one game or another it makes me somewhat ill.
This game will be a wonderful game to most if they believe in it and not listen to wanna be gamers with no mmo homes. Your post is without true merit and you have disregarded the fact that even GW2 holds many awards and has thousands of players. All in all I hope your comment was sarcasm.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
You should care, otherwise they won't get enough money to keep developing content or maintaining the game. They aren't going to develop the game just for a handful of people.
Games are not a religion. No matter how much faith I have in it. The game will not be better or worse. It will be good because it is good, or bad because it's not. My faith in it will not change that at all.
What exactly do you consider a handful of people? What do the devs consider a population worth continuing for?
True, but if you don't start with the right mindset then you are screwed right out of the gate. It is really up to the person and what they prefer anyway. I think SWTOR and GW2 are good games, others don't like them.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"
~Lord George Gordon Byron