The My top 5 of recent let-downs in MMO's was a great read.
It's amazing how many of the things listed as let-downs are now established 'norms' in games.
Thanks for the link! This is getting stashed on my fileserver for reference.
Ken Fisher - Semi retired old fart Network Administrator, now working in Network Security. I don't Forum PVP. If you feel I've attacked you, it was probably by accident. When I don't understand, I ask. Such is not intended as criticism.
In my opinion, looking back at where we (as a community) were, is a great way to understand where we are and how we got here.
Ken Fisher - Semi retired old fart Network Administrator, now working in Network Security. I don't Forum PVP. If you feel I've attacked you, it was probably by accident. When I don't understand, I ask. Such is not intended as criticism.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
There was really a time when I did play for a short time some asian grinders (open betas) i.e. Tantra, Rose Online, Lineage 2, Risk your Life, xxx,xxxx, ....jesus.
Dark & Light open beta, damn I can remember this quiete good and feels almost like yesterday. What kind of a disaster, a lot of people did burn their fingers who bought this game and getting no refund at all. The company was located in madagascar, very clever and almost untouchable.
The Vanguard hype was big and the forums discussions full of heat.....so much hype and such a big nose dive.
The SWG beta was fun, first time I saw that people were dancing for tip, dancer was an ingame career, there was a career as musician possible aswell who played for them.......LOL dance bitches.... and we give you some tip.
World of Warcraft, well a bright star was born . This game did really contribute to the genre, interesting quests and not just go grind 50 beetles and a lively world. Undercity the first time, alone using the elevator was nice and watching all the art looking upwards. In general devs had an eye for details and fun.
Its good to see that at the end not much did change except the bad part with F2P games, the same type of games selling hope to their players. Some burn their fingers and learn from it, some still hype new games neverless .....
Originally posted by Bennu I'm curious how many people who posted in threads from 2003-04 have been able not only to keep their original account but still actively post today.
I'm not able to look - my profile history only goes back to 2007 but i was posting back in 2003
Originally posted by Bennu I'm curious how many people who posted in threads from 2003-04 have been able not only to keep their original account but still actively post today.
I'm not able to look - my profile history only goes back to 2007 but i was posting back in 2003
Congrats on making it through this site for that long. I"ve read some threads in my 4 years that make the lines in my brain cross. I know that you have seen some things that make you question human nature. I know you are in it for the long haul though.
Originally posted by Bennu I'm curious how many people who posted in threads from 2003-04 have been able not only to keep their original account but still actively post today.
I got banned in 2004 and thought it was permanent so I made a new one. Good thing I learned that lesson or I'd be on account number...umm...20ish :P
But I have been coming here since the site was just a list of mmos. I think the forums went up around 2003 but the site was here since maybe 2001?/2 ?
"There are at least two kinds of games. One could be called finite, the other infinite. A finite game is played for the purpose of winning, an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play." Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
10 Years of The Pub and the thoughts nearing the end of the year. Grab a cup of cocoa, sit back while perusing what was discussed over 10 years right here on The Pub . This is a snapshot of each year on this date, December 23rd. There are no cherry picked topics or any agenda, the only parameters used to compile the list were the last post date must match 12/23 and the thread could not be locked and should be MMO based.
Originally posted by lizardbones Heh, lots of deleted users in some of those posts. :-)
Looks like that was a bit of work, and it turned out to be an interesting read. Great jorb!
So true! A new forum game: Try to figure who the deleted users were. If they were quoted later on, you have the answer
Thanks, Greenreen. This was a neat idea
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Originally posted by lizardbones Heh, lots of deleted users in some of those posts. :-)
Looks like that was a bit of work, and it turned out to be an interesting read. Great jorb!
So true! A new forum game: Try to figure who the deleted users were. If they were quoted later on, you have the answer
Thanks, Greenreen. This was a neat idea
deleted user is still one of those things I'll just never quite understand. I saw PWN_FACE just deleted his account. No idea why. I guess it's one of those things I will just never understand.
I've never really been one to burn a bridge so to speak. When I get sick of this place I just stop logging in.
Originally posted by lizardbones Heh, lots of deleted users in some of those posts. :-)
Looks like that was a bit of work, and it turned out to be an interesting read. Great jorb!
So true! A new forum game: Try to figure who the deleted users were. If they were quoted later on, you have the answer
Thanks, Greenreen. This was a neat idea
deleted user is still one of those things I'll just never quite understand. I saw PWN_FACE just deleted his account. No idea why. I guess it's one of those things I will just never understand.
I've never really been one to burn a bridge so to speak. When I get sick of this place I just stop logging in.
I would guess they did it for one of two reasons. They are teenagers, there is no such thing as history, so just let the angst carry you to that delete button. They are known to their friends under that name on this site, that will teach you to rant like a madman.
Great idea, and thanks for spending the time to bring us this history.
Just looking at the titles of the posts and what changed or didn't over the years was interesting. Strange to look back not just on one's own gaming history, but on that of this whole gaming community. Fascinating to think of a time pre-WoW and ponder whether anyone guessed how successful it would become (in terms of number of players and revenue) and how it would become the template for so many mmo's.
I often think that there is a wealth of intelligence and creativity among some of the core posters on this website. Fascinating to wonder what could be achieved if the focus was something other than gaming. Not that there's anything wrong with gaming per se, of course.
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The My top 5 of recent let-downs in MMO's was a great read.
It's amazing how many of the things listed as let-downs are now established 'norms' in games.
Thanks for the link! This is getting stashed on my fileserver for reference.
@ OP: I'm thinking this should be a blog.
In my opinion, looking back at where we (as a community) were, is a great way to understand where we are and how we got here.
Some rather interesting threads.
Great idea, greenreen!
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
My god that is like a fucking time machine
Looking 2004 is the most interesting imo, it was when WoW released and nobody knew what it would become in the future
A shame that today's WoW is just a mere shadow
"It has potential"
-Second most used phrase on existence
"It sucks"
-Most used phrase on existence
....rofl
There was really a time when I did play for a short time some asian grinders (open betas) i.e. Tantra, Rose Online, Lineage 2, Risk your Life, xxx,xxxx, ....jesus.
Dark & Light open beta, damn I can remember this quiete good and feels almost like yesterday. What kind of a disaster, a lot of people did burn their fingers who bought this game and getting no refund at all. The company was located in madagascar, very clever and almost untouchable.
The Vanguard hype was big and the forums discussions full of heat.....so much hype and such a big nose dive.
The SWG beta was fun, first time I saw that people were dancing for tip, dancer was an ingame career, there was a career as musician possible aswell who played for them.......LOL dance bitches.... and we give you some tip.
World of Warcraft, well a bright star was born . This game did really contribute to the genre, interesting quests and not just go grind 50 beetles and a lively world. Undercity the first time, alone using the elevator was nice and watching all the art looking upwards. In general devs had an eye for details and fun.
Its good to see that at the end not much did change except the bad part with F2P games, the same type of games selling hope to their players. Some burn their fingers and learn from it, some still hype new games neverless .....
Heh, lots of deleted users in some of those posts. :-)
Looks like that was a bit of work, and it turned out to be an interesting read. Great jorb!
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I'm not able to look - my profile history only goes back to 2007 but i was posting back in 2003
EQ2 fan sites
Congrats on making it through this site for that long. I"ve read some threads in my 4 years that make the lines in my brain cross. I know that you have seen some things that make you question human nature. I know you are in it for the long haul though.
I got banned in 2004 and thought it was permanent so I made a new one. Good thing I learned that lesson or I'd be on account number...umm...20ish :P
But I have been coming here since the site was just a list of mmos. I think the forums went up around 2003 but the site was here since maybe 2001?/2 ?
i used to hang around more at rpgdot.com in the early years but i think you are correct
EQ2 fan sites
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
It's coming along, a bit bigger than just a speck in the postman's eye now...
I recollect some of those threads; like tears lost in the rain
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
Thanks, Greenreen. This was a neat idea
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
deleted user is still one of those things I'll just never quite understand. I saw PWN_FACE just deleted his account. No idea why. I guess it's one of those things I will just never understand.
I've never really been one to burn a bridge so to speak. When I get sick of this place I just stop logging in.
I would guess they did it for one of two reasons. They are teenagers, there is no such thing as history, so just let the angst carry you to that delete button. They are known to their friends under that name on this site, that will teach you to rant like a madman.
Great idea, and thanks for spending the time to bring us this history.
Just looking at the titles of the posts and what changed or didn't over the years was interesting. Strange to look back not just on one's own gaming history, but on that of this whole gaming community. Fascinating to think of a time pre-WoW and ponder whether anyone guessed how successful it would become (in terms of number of players and revenue) and how it would become the template for so many mmo's.
I often think that there is a wealth of intelligence and creativity among some of the core posters on this website. Fascinating to wonder what could be achieved if the focus was something other than gaming. Not that there's anything wrong with gaming per se, of course.
Mostly just letdowns.