DayZ: So Much for the Death of PC Gaming

SBFord

Harbingers of Doom have long been predicting the death knell for PC gaming but according to a new Twitter post from DayZ's Dean Hall, no one should don the black just yet.

Well, 1 million copies in 4 weeks. So much for the death of PC Gaming. #DayZDaily

— Dean Hall (@rocket2guns) January 13, 2014

We have to say that it's difficult to argue with his logic. What about you? Agree? Disagree? Let us know in the comments.

akron

He's trying to do the funny but it just makes him look like he's still living in 2007. It's a largely irrelevant topic now that Steam (and multiple other platforms) is bigger than ever, PC games are getting crowdfunded left and right and the indie scene is growing stronger and stronger.

Fenrisl1234

I don't usually post on the forum but here we go :

 

Why Dayz? Why use a game that is still in Alpha or whatever to suggest the dead of PC Gaming?

 

 

tom_gore

Originally posted by Fenrisl1234

I don't usually post on the forum but here we go :

 

Why Dayz? Why use a game that is still in Alpha or whatever to suggest the dead of PC Gaming?

 

 

You mean why use an alpha that has already sold a million copies?

Geez... I don't know?

exile01

@Dean Hall

Your game carters a rather strange bunch of people. 

But congrats to your success- i guess success is always good.

Neverless, i wont ever buy or touch your game. Just not my style.

Draemos

The new "NexGen" Consoles being woefully underpowered and completely unable to take advantage of all the new 4k technology (hell, they struggle with 1080p at 60hz) that's hitting the shelves at the beginning of their life cycle puts PC gaming in a really good place.

In fact, it's the only reason I haven't completely written off Steambox.

Calven

I believe there's a 'Mac vs. PC' analogy in the 'PC vs. Consoles' and circles primarily around the subject of longevity. A PC can last for so much longer than a console, it can be upgraded (sometimes costly, of course), can play games from every 'generation' and can be used for so much more than a console. All this is, of course, due to the fact that a PC is designed with a lot of things in mind other than gaming, whereas consoles primarily funtion as machines on which you only play games.

Now, I don't think PC gaming is going to die. Not now, not ever. And you're a fool to believe so. First, there are no signs that indicate that PC gaming is declining. Second, you're a proper dick if you subscribe to the idea that one machine is better than the other. They alle have their merits, their pros and cons, but ultimately it's down to personal preferences. My favourite game is a console game, always will be, but I prefer playing on a PC. Sue me.

 

crysent

I agree  with the first poster.  I don't know anyone debating the death of PC gaming anymore, far from it.  Maybe a few years ago, but, not anymore - just log into steam.

rodingo

That was one of John Carmack's missteps as well as to claim the future is strictly with consoles and mobile devices for gaming.  He was not wrong to say that those devices had a future in gaming, but he was wrong to say that was the only future in gaming.  He was banking to much on the console.  Since Rage mostly flopped he is no longer in gaming development.  To bad that the father of FPS's that helped put PC gaming on the map turned his back on us.  Hopefully Doom 4 will still get released one of these days.  Oh, and PC gaming will continue to stay relevant for years to come.

Foomerang

This was a pretty hot topic in '02. Using a zombie game to necro, I see what you did there.

Gravarg

It's just like when I have to laugh at people that claim those pos tablets are going to replace laptops.  There's just somethings (a lot of things) that a tablet just can't do that a laptop can.  Tablets are  a fad like ipods, they'll be going the same direction too.  PC and console gaming will be around for years to come.  People said way back when the NES was released that it was going to kill PCs, but look where we are today

Ozmodan

Originally posted by Draemos

The new "NexGen" Consoles being woefully underpowered and completely unable to take advantage of all the new 4k technology (hell, they struggle with 1080p at 60hz) that's hitting the shelves at the beginning of their life cycle puts PC gaming in a really good place.

In fact, it's the only reason I haven't completely written off Steambox.

So true.  I was over at a friends the other night, he has a decent gaming rig and was playing Ghost on one of the new 4k TV's, so much for the new consoles........

TheLizardbones

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Originally posted by Draemos
The new "NexGen" Consoles being woefully underpowered and completely unable to take advantage of all the new 4k technology (hell, they struggle with 1080p at 60hz) that's hitting the shelves at the beginning of their life cycle puts PC gaming in a really good place.In fact, it's the only reason I haven't completely written off Steambox.

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I was going to respond by wondering how relevant 4K televisions really are. It's not like people have been clamoring for higher resolution video. Most sources for video are 1080p (upscaled DVDs, Bluray, gaming consoles, and streaming movies), and many televisions sold right now are 720p anyway. However, Visio's 50" 4K televisions are debuting at $999, which isn't an unreasonable price for an HD television. 4K televisions will probably become the norm just because that's all that will be available and the prices will be within the range of what people are willing to spend.

I still don't think the consoles not generating a 4K signal is that big a deal though. 4K televisions can upscale 1080P signals to display a 4K image, the same way the XB1 and PS4 can upscale their 720p signals to 1080p when needed.

As far as the SteamMachines go, I wouldn't hold your breath. They have a very long term strategy here, so it might be the NextNextGen consoles where they matter.

Thane

seriously, how stupid can people be?

 

buying the damn game twice, and in the end... we all know how it will end with the 2nd attempt....

Agent_Joseph

DayZ Standalone ,alpha is better & fun more than most  finished new  mmo's

Yes, I know it is not an MMO but anyway it is more mmo than  some games who are sold  as mmo's

AIMonster

Originally posted by Draemos

The new "NexGen" Consoles being woefully underpowered and completely unable to take advantage of all the new 4k technology (hell, they struggle with 1080p at 60hz) that's hitting the shelves at the beginning of their life cycle puts PC gaming in a really good place.

In fact, it's the only reason I haven't completely written off Steambox.

They aren't underpowered for their price point.  Show me a PC that can do everything a PS4 or Xbox One can for $500.  I'm not defending the death of PC gaming crowd because that's absurd and PCs will always be strong for gaming possibly more so than consoles in the coming years, I'm just saying consoles aren't exactly bad off either.  There's also much more of an ease of access with console hardware both on developers end (they can program specifically for console hardware) and user end (it's much easier to install a game and not having hardware conflicts and issues).

Hardware isn't really that important either as most people wouldn't know the difference between 720 and 1080p unless they saw pictures side by side and for both sides it's all about the games.

Muke

Originally posted by Gravarg
It's just like when I have to laugh at people that claim those pos tablets are going to replace laptops.  There's just somethings (a lot of things) that a tablet just can't do that a laptop can.  Tablets are  a fad like ipods, they'll be going the same direction too.  PC and console gaming will be around for years to come.  People said way back when the NES was released that it was going to kill PCs, but look where we are today

I always look at what I do (and can do) with my rigs today, can a tablet or console replace that for me?

No.

Untill I can do the same as I do now -and with more ease- I will never abandon the good old PC.

mCalvert

In 2012, 32 millions units of PC games sold globally, compared to over 331 million console games sold. And how many of those pc games were ported FROM console? The problem isn't the lack of pc gamers, its the sheer number of console gamers which make it more profitable to make a game on console. 

So Day Z comes along and its like a fix for addicts.

Rinna

I could never game on a console, I'd feel too restricted. Tablets are far worse.

kilun

Originally posted by mCalvert

In 2012, 32 millions units of PC games sold globally, compared to over 331 million console games sold. And how many of those pc games were ported FROM console? The problem isn't the lack of pc gamers, its the sheer number of console gamers which make it more profitable to make a game on console. 

So Day Z comes along and its like a fix for addicts.

Source?  I highly doubt only 32million units of PC games sold globally by any means.  Not to mention does this source include F2P games that had users spending money in an item shop, otherwise you might as well include all the downloaded F2P games and include them.  Now if "units" are talking box copies you might be right by all means.

Does that source also include the downloaded console games as well?

Hanthos

It seems like we have to go through this every year. Some game or app comes out that does something new and 'shiny', all the console and mobile types swoon and squee, proclaim that the PC is now dead and wonder why we stand there shaking our heads at them as we're generally 2 generations past their 'shiny' in what our platforms do...

Aside from Razer's toy, who has a tablet or console that is running ArcheAge, Eve or SWTOR?

mCalvert

Originally posted by kilun

Originally posted by mCalvert

In 2012, 32 millions units of PC games sold globally, compared to over 331 million console games sold. And how many of those pc games were ported FROM console? The problem isn't the lack of pc gamers, its the sheer number of console gamers which make it more profitable to make a game on console. 

So Day Z comes along and its like a fix for addicts.

Source?  I highly doubt only 32million units of PC games sold globally by any means.  Not to mention does this source include F2P games that had users spending money in an item shop, otherwise you might as well include all the downloaded F2P games and include them.  Now if "units" are talking box copies you might be right by all means.

Does that source also include the downloaded console games as well?

vgchartz.com

I don't think anyone would doubt that there is more money in consoles than pcs.

 

gunmanvlad

Originally posted by mCalvert

Originally posted by kilun

Originally posted by mCalvert

 

Source?  I highly doubt only 32million units of PC games sold globally by any means.  

vgchartz.com

I don't think anyone would doubt that there is more money in consoles than pcs.

 

That website deals 90% in consoles, and the numbers you quote are changes year-on-year, not totals. Google other sources and you'll find a plethora of other numbers for the market.

 

In any case, I think the "PC" is indeed dying, or maybe even dead, in the sense that now tablets/smartphones are taking over casual tech users, while computers are either used in professional tasks or gaming/entertainment. 

 

PC Gaming however, is still very high and mighty. To be fair, playing an RTS or a MOBA on a console is shockingly inefficient, and even FPS games are tedious. And these groups of games account for a good portion of the genre. I'll admit that Action, Adventure, Platformers and even RPGs work like a charm on consoles, and my PS3 and PS4 have a very well established spot in my living room running GoW, AC4, Last of Us, etc. However, I'll never abandon my PC, with all its complexity in Civ5, Starcraft 2, and the occasional Black Ops 2.

SirPKsAlot

Candy Crush Saga earns $946788 in estimated daily revenue and gets 46819 daily installs.

http://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/2/candy-crush-saga/

Clearly, both PC and console gaming are dead and abandoned. All hail your new mobile platform overlord.

TheLizardbones

Does anyone really believe that PC gaming is going away? Even if businesses move away from PCs, gamers will still want something that provides a premium gaming experience, and that just isn't possible with commodity hardware. The cat is already out of the bag.

Kyleran

What I've learned in over 30 years of electronic gaming is that each new platform provides opportunities for new style games and frequently brings more new players to the gaming world.

Consoles, PC's, Tablets, Cell Phones, even Leapfrog all have games that work well on them, and people frequently play on one or more of them.

I haven't seen any evidence over the years that introduction of a new platform makes a previous one obsolete, heck, people still play board games, if anything should have been killed off it should have been them.