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Why do you think the NDA hasn't been lifted?

With less than 80 days until release one starts to wonder indeed. I think Zenimax knows they will sell the game easily, and if offered, many will be willing to pay for a 3-month sub from the get go. They know many Skyrim players and TES fans will buy the game and pre-order if possible. So why bother lifting the NDA? Do you think the NDA will be lifted at all? Considering all the negativity in so many media outlets, Zenimax may not lift the NDA. What do you think?
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  • WoopinWoopin Member UncommonPosts: 1,012
    Because Beta is not over /thread.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    Probably for the same reason you can't pre-order from them yet (yes I know you can from Amazon but they'll sell anything) nor have they announced a collector's edition.

     

    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with their milestone scheduling - I'm no in marketing - but an NDA lift, press-events, pre-sale CE announcement, etc. all generate buzz... maybe they want a buzz blitz closer to release? 

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  • kakasakikakasaki Member UncommonPosts: 1,205

    Let's consult the magic 8 ball...

     

     

    ... ahhh chucks, better luck next time.

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Zenimax probably don't care about the "negative connotations" associated with not lifting the NDA, or leaving it to the absolute last minute.

    I doubt it will make any noticeable difference to their overall sales, specially if they send out out "review copies" just before launch to a handful of approved reviewers.

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Originally posted by Iselin

    Probably for the same reason you can't pre-order from them yet (yes I know you can from Amazon but they'll sell anything) nor have they announced a collector's edition.

     

    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with their milestone scheduling - I'm no in marketing - but an NDA lift, press-events, pre-sale CE announcement, etc. all generate buzz... maybe they want a buzz blitz closer to release? 

    This is along the lines of wha tI was thinking.

    It boils down to 2 possible reasons, really. 

    1. Generate marketing hype

    2. It's not ready

     

     

  • CthulhuPuffsCthulhuPuffs Member UncommonPosts: 368

    Someone should start and Official Petition to have them drop the NDA

     

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078

    Because Zenimax wants to surprise us!  image

    C'mon, it'll be more fun that way,  I mean really, what could go wrong? image

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Iselin

    Probably for the same reason you can't pre-order from them yet (yes I know you can from Amazon but they'll sell anything) nor have they announced a collector's edition.

     

    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with their milestone scheduling - I'm no in marketing - but an NDA lift, press-events, pre-sale CE announcement, etc. all generate buzz... maybe they want a buzz blitz closer to release? 

    This is along the lines of wha tI was thinking.

    It boils down to 2 possible reasons, really. 

    1. Generate marketing hype

    2. It's not ready

     

     

    I'm very confident --about 99.9%--that they will release on schedule... and yes, there will be a bug here and a bug there when they do... and 2-years down the line, especially after a major patch, there'll be a bug here and a bug there...

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  • spizzspizz Member UncommonPosts: 1,971
    Just like it was in other games before, NDA is up until open beta. I dont see an issue here.
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    I've cleaned up a little in here. Leaving this open for now, but please don't post NDA-breaking comments in here. 

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  • himodshimods Member Posts: 54

    Because that's how cashgrab works: give out as little as possible to hide nonexisting/poor quality content and sell as many boxes as you can on launch before the masses smell the brown stuff. 

    SWTOR went down almost exactly, riding a big tittle just like TESO does now.

  • MikePaladinMikePaladin Member UncommonPosts: 592
    Because I'm a die hard TES fan and when I've seen ESO I became not sure if this product is worth time. Skyrim players will be disappointed especially HD texture fans.
  • BoreilBoreil Member UncommonPosts: 448

    Because its still in closed beta, have a nice day. 

     

    Close this thread.

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  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610
    Originally posted by SoulTrapOnSelf
    With less than 80 days until release one starts to wonder indeed. I think Zenimax knows they will sell the game easily, and if offered, many will be willing to pay for a 3-month sub from the get go. They know many Skyrim players and TES fans will buy the game and pre-order if possible. So why bother lifting the NDA? Do you think the NDA will be lifted at all? Considering all the negativity in so many media outlets, Zenimax may not lift the NDA. What do you think?

    Closed beta isn't over, that's why.  EVERY game is like this, yet there are always people who try and come up with some conspiracy as to why is hasn't been lifted.  NDA lifts when paid beta, open beta, or early access is released.  It's normal, trust me.

     

    There isn't much to hide.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    Because the developers don't believe there is any benefit in lifting the NDA. Think about it like this. It doesn't matter how the game has been built, the people who don't like it are very loudly going to proclaim that however it's done, it will fail, and here is why. With no public disclosure of information, they can only loudly proclaim that the game will fail, but without anything to point at, they just sound like haters.

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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843

    I'm still am in the camp of "if your game is good, let the people see/talk about it." I think the main reason is to protect story. PvE content is limited in themeparks. If NDA was lifted now there would be video guides for every bit of that content.

     

    I wish we could talk about the PVP though!!!

  • sketocafesketocafe Member UncommonPosts: 950
    Wait a couple months and see if they announce an open beta before you get the tinfoil hat out and infer things based on ZoS actions. I don't know that we know whether the build they just had a beta weekend for is the current one so if they're on .95 and .91 just got tested there's a reason to keep the nda right there. If they're isn't an open beta though, then we can gleefully start predicting the carnage.
  • neobahamut20neobahamut20 Member Posts: 336

    Why do you think OP? When companies have a success on their hands, they drop the NDA. They didn't. Now, put 1 and 1 together and start looking elsewhere.

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  • RoguewizRoguewiz Member UncommonPosts: 711
    Other than the obvious "beta isn't over comment", it hasn't been lifted because frankly, they have a lot of competition coming out this year.  Better to leave them little opportunity to "copy" stuff than to release too much info too quickly.

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  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611
    Originally posted by sketocafe
    Wait a couple months and see if they announce an open beta before you get the tinfoil hat out and infer things based on ZoS actions. I don't know that we know whether the build they just had a beta weekend for is the current one so if they're on .95 and .91 just got tested there's a reason to keep the nda right there. If they're isn't an open beta though, then we can gleefully start predicting the carnage.

    A couple months? The release date is 11 weeks from now.

     

    How many more closed betas are needed?

     

    It isnt the NDA thats 'disturbing' it that it is still in closed beta so close to their hard release date.

     

    You can draw your own conclusions from that 'coincidence'.

  • r3dl4ncer3dl4nce Member UncommonPosts: 114

    It's a closed beta, and every closed beta have NDA.

    There is not mysterious reason. Really. It's only closed beta = NDA

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,915
    90% of the times its all Marketing Dept. How many times have you heard a dev say "I would love to talk about this awesome feature but marketing would kill me" Marketing makes sure info is released in a way that creates a good image for the game and in a way that they hope brings the most sales. 
  • DaemonweaverDaemonweaver Member UncommonPosts: 124

    Hopefully the NDA has not been lifted because (judging by the vids I have seen) combat sucks badly and the beta testers are complaining about so Zenimax are trying really hard to get it sorted before the game comes out to the public and the crap fight mechanics kills it within 3 months.

    Just a personal opinion from official and un-official vids that have been available for viewing on the net.

    For myself I really hope they do something about it as the rest of the game seems to have some real promise but omg if the combat is as bad as it looks OUCH!!!!

  • muthaxmuthax Member UncommonPosts: 703
    Originally posted by Daemonweaver

    Hopefully the NDA has not been lifted because (judging by the vids I have seen) combat sucks badly and the beta testers are complaining about so Zenimax are trying really hard to get it sorted before the game comes out to the public and the crap fight mechanics kills it within 3 months.

    Just a personal opinion from official and un-official vids that have been available for viewing on the net.

    For myself I really hope they do something about it as the rest of the game seems to have some real promise but omg if the combat is as bad as it looks OUCH!!!!

    Don't worry is all I can say (if that's your only worry)

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