LMAO unless youre close to 50 you barely remember any of these people they listed. And that isnt hyperbole or rhetoric. I am 45 and I was pretty young when these people actually had steady work.
But like I said in the main article, not many people care about whose voice it is.
They ight as well have paid Rich Little (about as relevant, if he isnt dead) to do ALL the voices. No one would have known the difference trust me.
Yeah because no one under 50 has seen, underworld, harry potter, spiderman 2, the mentalist, fargo, love actually, etc etc
They all get regular work with the exception of linda carter
As long as they're not spending massive money to get big money names at the expense of quality systems development, it's all good. I love some of the names on that list and a few are some of my favorite actors. I do think they're pulling in the big names for marketing purposes, but how they spend their money is their business.
On one hand I think it's important that new AAA mmos have voice acting. On the other I think there is a balance to money spent with stamping well known names on your game for content that is essentially disposable. By that I mean the voice over is consumed one time per character, so I feel the money better be very well spent and not at the expense of systems and mechanics development.
That is true, but at least in ESO you can listen to all of the voiceover. You can go through all 3 faction stories on one character and continue to progress skills and gear for end game while you do it. No need to role 2 alts.
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TOR dint fail because of voice acting.... it failed because.... (put your own reasons here)
Except for the little fact that it didn't fail. To the extent ESO tries to be like TOR, that's a good thing. TOR is number two in the market (of MMOs which include a sub) and aiming to take it's audience away is a far more realistic goal than aiming to take WoW's.
I agree, it dint fail.... but the people making the argument that voice overs are a waste of money will most likely be the ones who said it did. Thus the (put your own reason here) to give the reader a chance to put their own reason there if they thought it failed.
Upon conclusion of putting their reason there, they will see that it wasn't because of voice acting. Thus achieving the result intended.
The most expensive mmo ever made(possible even computer game) and sale tanked after 2 months, most of the population only lasted as long as the firs sub bundle they bought and had to go f2p after 6 months, how exactly is that not a failure? Also it's not number 2 in the market, hasn't been for a long time especially if you go worldwide.
The most expensive mmo ever made(possible even computer game) and sale tanked after 2 months, most of the population only lasted as long as the firs sub bundle they bought and had to go f2p after 6 months, how exactly is that not a failure? Also it's not number 2 in the market, hasn't been for a long time especially if you go worldwide.
It has the second most subs (of the western 15/month variety) of any game that includes them, and it has the second most successful cash shop of any game that includes subs. How is that a failure, and how is not number two out of the games that include subs?
By the standard you are using, WoW is the only successful sub game ever made. Zenimax would probably kill to have TOR's level of success.
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This also shows me that the company is very instrested in making it a high quality game. Adding actors who can pour their hearts into their voices to give the game high quality. I think this speaks volumes on how high quality they are making this game. Not to mention the graphics.
This also shows me that the company is very instrested in making it a high quality game. Adding actors who can pour their hearts into their voices to give the game high quality. I think this speaks volumes on how high quality they are making this game. Not to mention the graphics.
Rigjht .. they aren't pouring their hearts into anything .. they are getting paid.
Anyone can "pour hearts" when being paid what they are paid.
I'm actually disappointed John Clease accepted the job. Every actor has to have an end I suppose?
side:
Now if they added Tim Curry .. they actually might have a game on their hands. He actually did wonders for C&C, before EA demanded always-on DRM. It's a crappy game, but it has good cut scenes, kinda like I expect forthcoming in future MMORPG's .. , except audio only.
This also shows me that the company is very instrested in making it a high quality game. Adding actors who can pour their hearts into their voices to give the game high quality. I think this speaks volumes on how high quality they are making this game. Not to mention the graphics.
Rigjht .. they aren't pouring their hearts into anything .. they are getting paid.
Anyone can "pour hearts" when being paid what they are paid.
I'm actually disappointed John Clease accepted the job. Every actor has to have an end I suppose?
side:
Now if they added Tim Curry .. they actually might have a game on their hands. He actually did wonders for C&C, before EA demanded always-on DRM. It's a crappy game, but it has good cut scenes, kinda like I expect forthcoming in future MMORPG's .. , except audio only.
Believe me, I'm a Martian linguist after all.
WTF are you talking about? All actors get paid.How ridiculous. What are they supposed to do, pour their hearts into it for free?
I have no problems with that, even though I think that investing massive amouts of money for voice overs in a MMORPG is a bit of a waste. In a single player RPG like Skyrim, it's worth doing, but in a MMORPG... 90% of the players will skip the dialogues anyway.
They even got Alfred Molina though, that's pretty cool - and Kate of course
Well, i think thats where some never got the point...
There is so much RPG in this title, that it does matter...
Now its not that important to have those names doing the voice overs..
But if you do add voice overs they need to be of the highest quallity and add something to the game.
Using experienced voice over actors (the famous names) ensures the quallity..
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I have no problems with that, even though I think that investing massive amouts of money for voice overs in a MMORPG is a bit of a waste. In a single player RPG like Skyrim, it's worth doing, but in a MMORPG... 90% of the players will skip the dialogues anyway.
They even got Alfred Molina though, that's pretty cool - and Kate of course
Well, i think thats where some never got the point...
There is so much RPG in this title, that it does matter...
Now its not that important to have those names doing the voice overs..
But if you do add voice overs they need to be of the highest quallity and add something to the game.
Using experienced voice over actors (the famous names) ensures the quallity..
It also helps that we live in a world of social media.
Having some big names like that endorsing the game by tweeting about it, posting about it on their Facebooks and doing interviews like the one we saw earlier, is going to draw a lot of attention to the title.
It'll draw in some MMO newbies too, just because they saw their favorite Hollywood stars are involved in it.
Which in turn will help them earn back the hefty paychecks they signed for these folks.
PS: 90% of the players don't skip the scenes (at least not on their first playthroughs) - maybe if Picard wasn't so busy hating at the time he'd have noticed how often people in general chat are talking/laughing about some comment one of the NPCs made.
And the ones that did were idiots for buying a game which advertised that it was going to be heavily story driven. (how on Earth some people could miss that is beyond me)
Personal opinion =/= 90% of the player population.
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And assumptions are no excuse for insulting accusations towards another forum poster.
I'm actually one of those who listens to all dialogs and reads all quest texts. But my general experience with MMORPGs in many different games over the last 20 years shows me that most aren't like me. That's why you have general chat in the games spammed with questions from people who can't even be bothered to read a map and follow quest instructions...
My apologies, from the earlier post I figured you counted yourself among that 90% and were advocating they* are a waste of resources.
I was already thinking why the heck is he interested in this game then? It's pretty much going to be a repeat of something he already hates.
* Dialogues, quest texts and cutscenes.
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PS. You do know that every single major character and minor villager in Skyrim is voiced don't you?
I personally think it's fluff but I wouldn't be averse to having good VO along with all the other goodies. It's just that I think reading texts is not all that bad and for a good game VO's are not required for immersion. Too me it really comes down to how much money does a developer have and if much of that Voice Over money could be used elsewhere and it made the game better A.K.A. more complex and robust then use the money for that. Simple really!
Wrong... VO's are necessary in today's era of videogames. Text is so 1990, time to let go. Also to the folks saying money could had been spent elsewhere... It didn't take from anywhere else they have tons of money to chuck at this title so nothing is getting skimped on.
To those saying the animations, textures, and lighting is bad and could use more money, well, there is a reason for those being that way and you will see when you are sieging a keep with 500 players on screen.
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Originally posted by evilastro Geez, the celebrities they wrangled in for this crap all over SWTOR's cast.
And SW:TOR also told us (at least those of us with a long term memory) that a voice over cast doesn't make a good game... they could have all the best actors of the world, spend millions of dollars just on the voice overs, and still make a bad game.
For instance, beside the obvious SW:TOR example, for the "Game of Thrones" single player RPG, they had both James Cosmo and Conleth Hill reprise their roles as Lord Commander Jeor Mormont and Lord Varys, yet the game is still at best average, if not crappy. A good example of using some actors for voice overs to make the fanbois crap their underwear and buy a sub-par game.
Never said it made a good game, just commented on the quality of actors. And SWTORs ones were touted to cost quite a lot. I imagine the VA bill for ESO is quite large.
Personally I think its a bit overdone these days. Wouldn't hurt to teach some people to read more.
PS. You do know that every single major character and minor villager in Skyrim is voiced don't you?
I personally think it's fluff but I wouldn't be averse to having good VO along with all the other goodies. It's just that I think reading texts is not all that bad and for a good game VO's are not required for immersion. Too me it really comes down to how much money does a developer have and if much of that Voice Over money could be used elsewhere and it made the game better A.K.A. more complex and robust then use the money for that. Simple really!
Wrong... VO's are necessary in today's era of videogames. Text is so 1990, time to let go. Also to the folks saying money could had been spent elsewhere... It didn't take from anywhere else they have tons of money to chuck at this title so nothing is getting skimped on.
To those saying the animations, textures, and lighting is bad and could use more money, well, there is a reason for those being that way and you will see when you are sieging a keep with 500 players on screen.
These consumers demanding voice acting rather than text are the same ones that cant even type out a coherent sentence in chat. If that's the future I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
PS. You do know that every single major character and minor villager in Skyrim is voiced don't you?
I personally think it's fluff but I wouldn't be averse to having good VO along with all the other goodies. It's just that I think reading texts is not all that bad and for a good game VO's are not required for immersion. Too me it really comes down to how much money does a developer have and if much of that Voice Over money could be used elsewhere and it made the game better A.K.A. more complex and robust then use the money for that. Simple really!
Wrong... VO's are necessary in today's era of videogames. Text is so 1990, time to let go. Also to the folks saying money could had been spent elsewhere... It didn't take from anywhere else they have tons of money to chuck at this title so nothing is getting skimped on.
To those saying the animations, textures, and lighting is bad and could use more money, well, there is a reason for those being that way and you will see when you are sieging a keep with 500 players on screen.
These consumers demanding voice acting rather than text are the same ones that cant even type out a coherent sentence in chat. If that's the future I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
You should probably disconnect your PC from the internet and throw out your cellphone while your at it, hypocrite . Nobody comes online to have their grammar corrected, quit being an armchair English teacher. The only ones that care about spelling mistakes on the internets are individuals that obviously have a superiority complex or making up for something they lack.
The reason we can't have nice things is because of hippies that don't embrace change.
"The King and the Pawn return to the same box at the end of the game"
PS. You do know that every single major character and minor villager in Skyrim is voiced don't you?
I personally think it's fluff but I wouldn't be averse to having good VO along with all the other goodies. It's just that I think reading texts is not all that bad and for a good game VO's are not required for immersion. Too me it really comes down to how much money does a developer have and if much of that Voice Over money could be used elsewhere and it made the game better A.K.A. more complex and robust then use the money for that. Simple really!
Wrong... VO's are necessary in today's era of videogames. Text is so 1990, time to let go. Also to the folks saying money could had been spent elsewhere... It didn't take from anywhere else they have tons of money to chuck at this title so nothing is getting skimped on.
To those saying the animations, textures, and lighting is bad and could use more money, well, there is a reason for those being that way and you will see when you are sieging a keep with 500 players on screen.
These consumers demanding voice acting rather than text are the same ones that cant even type out a coherent sentence in chat. If that's the future I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
How do you know these are the same people? And even more, on what basis can you say there is causality between increasing voice overs and people being less able to conversate in chat? What if it is a more general soicetal issue that people are less able to chat? What if is an issue which has always been present in society, but the larger exposure of MMO to a broader population, means this issue becomes evident?
People in here see so many connections between all kinds of aspects, and try and come across as experts and know it alls, when in reality you have no ground for anything you say, other than your own opinion.
PS. You do know that every single major character and minor villager in Skyrim is voiced don't you?
I personally think it's fluff but I wouldn't be averse to having good VO along with all the other goodies. It's just that I think reading texts is not all that bad and for a good game VO's are not required for immersion. Too me it really comes down to how much money does a developer have and if much of that Voice Over money could be used elsewhere and it made the game better A.K.A. more complex and robust then use the money for that. Simple really!
Wrong... VO's are necessary in today's era of videogames. Text is so 1990, time to let go. Also to the folks saying money could had been spent elsewhere... It didn't take from anywhere else they have tons of money to chuck at this title so nothing is getting skimped on.
To those saying the animations, textures, and lighting is bad and could use more money, well, there is a reason for those being that way and you will see when you are sieging a keep with 500 players on screen.
Pretty much. After playing SWTOR and The Secret World for so long it became painfully clear how used I've gotten to VO's when I was trying FFXIV.
As for the comment about crappy writing/typing skills someone made... I've been seeing those ever since I first went online many years ago.
Not to mention all the IM speak. Unplugging from the internet might indeed be a good solution if seeing poor/lazy typing offends someone that much, because it will always be around.
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Apparently, this isn't quite obvious to some of you, but voice-overs are part of the future of gaming as text is being used less and less. Providing players with a large wall of text is, evidently, an archaic design, as games are far more like movies than they are like books. Simply take a look at all the recent games with a noteworthy narrative, and observe how many used voice-overs instead of text. Every single genre is adopting this feature, it is time for MMO's to do the same, and it has begun to. If some of you maintain this old-fashioned mindset that the money used to cover the costs of voice-overs could be better applied elsewhere, then you will forever burden yourself with these thoughts in the future, as this feature is already becoming the norm in this genre, just as it has become the norm in other genres.
This also shows me that the company is very instrested in making it a high quality game. Adding actors who can pour their hearts into their voices to give the game high quality. I think this speaks volumes on how high quality they are making this game. Not to mention the graphics.
Rigjht .. they aren't pouring their hearts into anything .. they are getting paid.
Anyone can "pour hearts" when being paid what they are paid.
I'm actually disappointed John Clease accepted the job. Every actor has to have an end I suppose?
side:
Now if they added Tim Curry .. they actually might have a game on their hands. He actually did wonders for C&C, before EA demanded always-on DRM. It's a crappy game, but it has good cut scenes, kinda like I expect forthcoming in future MMORPG's .. , except audio only.
Believe me, I'm a Martian linguist after all.
lol!
So, it's impossible that someone really pour themselves into their work and get paid for it?
So, it's not possible that actors, cooks, artists, writers, business owners... anyone who gets paid for what they do are also passionate about it?
Well, not only is that complete nonsense, it's also rather cynical.
Also, it's funny how, after all that, you just arbitrarily let Tim Curry off the hook... because you actually liked what he did. No double-standards there at all. Nope.
This also shows me that the company is very instrested in making it a high quality game. Adding actors who can pour their hearts into their voices to give the game high quality. I think this speaks volumes on how high quality they are making this game. Not to mention the graphics.
Rigjht .. they aren't pouring their hearts into anything .. they are getting paid.
Anyone can "pour hearts" when being paid what they are paid.
I'm actually disappointed John Clease accepted the job. Every actor has to have an end I suppose?
side:
Now if they added Tim Curry .. they actually might have a game on their hands. He actually did wonders for C&C, before EA demanded always-on DRM. It's a crappy game, but it has good cut scenes, kinda like I expect forthcoming in future MMORPG's .. , except audio only.
Believe me, I'm a Martian linguist after all.
lol!
So, it's impossible that someone really pour themselves into their work... if they're getting paid.
So, it's not possible that actors, cooks, artists, writers, business owners... anyone who gets paid for what they do are also passionate about it?
Well, not only is that complete nonsense, it's also rather cynical.
Also, it's funny how, after all that, you just arbitrarily let Tim Curry off the hook... because you actually liked what he did. No double-standards there at all. Nope.
Clearly an artist must live in poverty for their entire life and receive recognition only after they've passed on.
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You mean to tell me that they went through all the trouble to hire Kate Beckinsale and didn't bother to pay her to show a littlie skin and latex in a cinematic. IDIOTS. What a waste of talent. pfft... Game is fail already man.
This also shows me that the company is very instrested in making it a high quality game. Adding actors who can pour their hearts into their voices to give the game high quality. I think this speaks volumes on how high quality they are making this game. Not to mention the graphics.
Rigjht .. they aren't pouring their hearts into anything .. they are getting paid.
Anyone can "pour hearts" when being paid what they are paid.
I'm actually disappointed John Clease accepted the job. Every actor has to have an end I suppose?
side:
Now if they added Tim Curry .. they actually might have a game on their hands. He actually did wonders for C&C, before EA demanded always-on DRM. It's a crappy game, but it has good cut scenes, kinda like I expect forthcoming in future MMORPG's .. , except audio only.
Believe me, I'm a Martian linguist after all.
lol!
So, it's impossible that someone really pour themselves into their work... if they're getting paid.
So, it's not possible that actors, cooks, artists, writers, business owners... anyone who gets paid for what they do are also passionate about it?
Well, not only is that complete nonsense, it's also rather cynical.
Also, it's funny how, after all that, you just arbitrarily let Tim Curry off the hook... because you actually liked what he did. No double-standards there at all. Nope.
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Yeah because no one under 50 has seen, underworld, harry potter, spiderman 2, the mentalist, fargo, love actually, etc etc
They all get regular work with the exception of linda carter
That is true, but at least in ESO you can listen to all of the voiceover. You can go through all 3 faction stories on one character and continue to progress skills and gear for end game while you do it. No need to role 2 alts.
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Kate Beckinsale is my Queen. I shall slay the haters for you my Queen! I will make the Aldmeri Dominion the Victor of Tamriel.
I'm curious though, will they have a celeb advertising campaign like WOW had next?
Its always fun to see William Shatner get up on TV commercials for video games and airlines.
The most expensive mmo ever made(possible even computer game) and sale tanked after 2 months, most of the population only lasted as long as the firs sub bundle they bought and had to go f2p after 6 months, how exactly is that not a failure? Also it's not number 2 in the market, hasn't been for a long time especially if you go worldwide.
I think 'how many posts after it's released' will be a more interesting question.
It has the second most subs (of the western 15/month variety) of any game that includes them, and it has the second most successful cash shop of any game that includes subs. How is that a failure, and how is not number two out of the games that include subs?
By the standard you are using, WoW is the only successful sub game ever made. Zenimax would probably kill to have TOR's level of success.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
Geez very nice!
I thought GW2 had a good group of voice actors, this is very impressive! Not that it makes the game, but it sure won't hurt.
edit: They all have the nice english accents! Should have had a few from Southern Georgia or the Bronx!
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This also shows me that the company is very instrested in making it a high quality game. Adding actors who can pour their hearts into their voices to give the game high quality. I think this speaks volumes on how high quality they are making this game. Not to mention the graphics.
Rigjht .. they aren't pouring their hearts into anything .. they are getting paid.
Anyone can "pour hearts" when being paid what they are paid.
I'm actually disappointed John Clease accepted the job. Every actor has to have an end I suppose?
side:
Now if they added Tim Curry .. they actually might have a game on their hands. He actually did wonders for C&C, before EA demanded always-on DRM. It's a crappy game, but it has good cut scenes, kinda like I expect forthcoming in future MMORPG's .. , except audio only.
Believe me, I'm a Martian linguist after all.
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
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Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
WTF are you talking about? All actors get paid.How ridiculous. What are they supposed to do, pour their hearts into it for free?
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Well, i think thats where some never got the point...
There is so much RPG in this title, that it does matter...
Now its not that important to have those names doing the voice overs..
But if you do add voice overs they need to be of the highest quallity and add something to the game.
Using experienced voice over actors (the famous names) ensures the quallity..
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It also helps that we live in a world of social media.
Having some big names like that endorsing the game by tweeting about it, posting about it on their Facebooks and doing interviews like the one we saw earlier, is going to draw a lot of attention to the title.
It'll draw in some MMO newbies too, just because they saw their favorite Hollywood stars are involved in it.
Which in turn will help them earn back the hefty paychecks they signed for these folks.
PS: 90% of the players don't skip the scenes (at least not on their first playthroughs) - maybe if Picard wasn't so busy hating at the time he'd have noticed how often people in general chat are talking/laughing about some comment one of the NPCs made.
And the ones that did were idiots for buying a game which advertised that it was going to be heavily story driven. (how on Earth some people could miss that is beyond me)
Personal opinion =/= 90% of the player population.
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My apologies, from the earlier post I figured you counted yourself among that 90% and were advocating they* are a waste of resources.
I was already thinking why the heck is he interested in this game then? It's pretty much going to be a repeat of something he already hates.
* Dialogues, quest texts and cutscenes.
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Wrong... VO's are necessary in today's era of videogames. Text is so 1990, time to let go. Also to the folks saying money could had been spent elsewhere... It didn't take from anywhere else they have tons of money to chuck at this title so nothing is getting skimped on.
To those saying the animations, textures, and lighting is bad and could use more money, well, there is a reason for those being that way and you will see when you are sieging a keep with 500 players on screen.
Never said it made a good game, just commented on the quality of actors. And SWTORs ones were touted to cost quite a lot. I imagine the VA bill for ESO is quite large.
Personally I think its a bit overdone these days. Wouldn't hurt to teach some people to read more.
These consumers demanding voice acting rather than text are the same ones that cant even type out a coherent sentence in chat. If that's the future I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
You should probably disconnect your PC from the internet and throw out your cellphone while your at it, hypocrite . Nobody comes online to have their grammar corrected, quit being an armchair English teacher. The only ones that care about spelling mistakes on the internets are individuals that obviously have a superiority complex or making up for something they lack.
The reason we can't have nice things is because of hippies that don't embrace change.
How do you know these are the same people? And even more, on what basis can you say there is causality between increasing voice overs and people being less able to conversate in chat? What if it is a more general soicetal issue that people are less able to chat? What if is an issue which has always been present in society, but the larger exposure of MMO to a broader population, means this issue becomes evident?
People in here see so many connections between all kinds of aspects, and try and come across as experts and know it alls, when in reality you have no ground for anything you say, other than your own opinion.
Pretty much. After playing SWTOR and The Secret World for so long it became painfully clear how used I've gotten to VO's when I was trying FFXIV.
As for the comment about crappy writing/typing skills someone made... I've been seeing those ever since I first went online many years ago.
Not to mention all the IM speak. Unplugging from the internet might indeed be a good solution if seeing poor/lazy typing offends someone that much, because it will always be around.
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lol!
So, it's impossible that someone really pour themselves into their work and get paid for it?
So, it's not possible that actors, cooks, artists, writers, business owners... anyone who gets paid for what they do are also passionate about it?
Well, not only is that complete nonsense, it's also rather cynical.
Also, it's funny how, after all that, you just arbitrarily let Tim Curry off the hook... because you actually liked what he did. No double-standards there at all. Nope.
These people clearly aren't passionate or into what they were doing. Nope. It was all for the money.
And the examples could go on...
He's old school.
Clearly an artist must live in poverty for their entire life and receive recognition only after they've passed on.
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I guess so. Man, I'm glad I don't have that cynical a view on the world (at least not in that area), especially being a creative type myself
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