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Ok with the newest path notes and addon vids I consider preodering ESO. I saw it cheap for 41 Euro on a website called MMOGA, they say they sell the key code, but... is that a serious site? The price difference sounds like it is a scam.
Any info?
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I wouldn't recommend it. It really does sound too good to be true, and what constitutes as being 18 euros cheaper could still be 42 euros more expensive if it turns out that it is a scam. Put the extra money and go in with a reliable site.
Besides, I think greenman are still doing coupons for ESO. If not, then at least you don't have to worry about an empty inbox and full outbox.
Get yourself a 5 day early start key or ten for a few $ and worry about the retail key later.
Available on ebay uk last time I looked.
And MMOGA have been around for a while. How do you imagine you can be scammed buying with a credit card or even Paypal ?
MMOGA com/net/de/org is a MMORPG game currency selling company...of course you shouldn't buy games from them.
Buy it from a retailer or online gaming company ala steam(I know they don't sell it but others do) .
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
He's right, they've sold cracked STEAM keys before and have been known to ask for a scan/copy of your passport to "verify" paypal among selling gold of several different gold currencies, and they got caught several times by selling used keys or sending the wrong key type.
Also if you don't live in Germany there is little to no legal recourse if they do anything to you.
Any evidence to support your claims ?
Yeah, not even the tip of the ice burg... also they were mentioned in another thread that got deleted/locked that pretty much went like this one. Don't buy from them if even on just the principal they demand copies of photo IDs and passports.
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/mmoga-c295057.html
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/98106-please-help-me-i-paid-37-euro-nothing.html
http://katyscode.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/psn-cards-and-mmoga-a-warning-previously-unpublished/
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2712198.html
http://www.complaintsboard.com/?search=MMOGA
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1mbdau/is_httpwwwmmogacom_a_trustableknown_webisite_or_a/
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.mmoga.co.uk
Specifically tied together to point to illegal keys coming from MMOGA
http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/130280/key-removed-from-steam-account-why
http://unknownworlds.com/blog/beware-shady-key-resellers-and-discount-steam-keys/
LOL, I love there services, nothing shady happening here.
http://www.mmoga.com/content/Mediation-Process.html
Okay, but ASIDE from all that...any other evidence?
Only go with the ones that you can trust, if you don't know the company or never heard about it before my advice is just leave it, rather spend 20+ euro more on a website you know and trust than a site you never heard of.
Hmm, they are selling Elder Scrolls 60 day game cards already?
http://www.mmoga.com/The-Elder-Scrolls-Online/ESO-Key-Gamecard/The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Gamecard-60-Days.html
It's not BBB acredited?
http://www.bbb.org/fort-worth/Business-Reviews/marketing-programs-and-services/mmoga-in-fort-worth-tx-185905130/directions/
Reference to their WOT rating?
http://mmoga.knoji.com/questions/how-trustworthy-is-mmoga-do-they-have-a-bbb-rating-have-major-media-outlets-covered-them/
My eyes are tired... I'm gonna stop now.
So they steal keys? But if buy that key, can I use it? hrhr. To paraphrase Watto: I hope you didn't steal it from anyone *I* know.
Hm. Thanks yall for the info. I guess I wait until after release then. 60 Euro PLUS 15 Euro per months is still too much for my taste. I pay 60 Euro for a F2p or 45 Euro for a monthly fee MMO, but the current price is just... too much IMVPO.
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I don't believe so, when they announced that they added collision a few guildmates of mine decided they were going to order it. They have been looking for someone with a discount.
If I hear anything I will post it for those that are looking.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
http://www.g2play.net/ even cheaper, and a good site.
Not sure if the $5 off is worth getting it from a Chinese company. Would rather support a western company with another sale for full price, just me mind you, but yeah. g2play has been around for a while and has at least a decent reputation for single player games. Though, their keys have been known to be rejected by Steam and EA as not a "legit" retailer and wont support those that buy from them.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Aaah but would that be a "western" country that doesnt pay taxes ?
but when it comes down to it I have to agree with what many have said here.
It doesn't just come down to price.
You are not saving anything if you buy from a company that gives poor service. It is worth paying for some guarantees and return policies. It is worth paying for peace of mind.
Which is why people should be getting their hands on a 5 day early start key applying it to their ESO account as soon as they can and enjoying the peace of mind and satisfaction of knowing they will be rolling up to play ESO on 30.3.14 having only paid a few $$.
I am more than willing to spend "taxes" in order to not send more money to a country threatening its neighbors. I am not feeding that 800pd gorilla anymore.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
So do they ask for photo ID to verify payment? If so, then there is someone using your ID somewhere to launder money or create fake passports with your name on it. Retailers can't verify your photo ID against your Paypal account, this is bogus.
Maybe you're fine with providing your name and info to be sold to international criminals and terrorists, but I'm making the conscious choice to not make it easier for people to cross borders and smuggle people/drugs/guns. In this day and age of computer verification, that fake passport is SOMEBODY'S info, and very few passports are just stored or collected online except but shady illegal sites like this.
Two things:
I guess buying that watch from the van at the back of the mall parking lot IS more convenient than actually walking into the mall
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― CD PROJEKT RED
Of course that long walk down that dark alley to get there is still shorter.... maybe we should go to the mall.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
http://www.gameholds.com/knowledge
Apparently you can black out most details on your ID card... they only need to see your name and expiration date.
Most companies ask for that, there are anti money laundering + other laws they must comply with.(depending on the country)
But yeah keep on posting without actually knowing anything.... because its the internet.
As an alternative, there are a lot of websites offering it for 34EUR(46$)... its a very good deal if you are living in Europe where Zenimax wants you to pay 55Eur(75$). You can get your subscription cheaper from other websites too... i saw 60day cards going for 21EUR(28$) while ZENIMAX will ask for 12.99EUR(17.86$)/month.
So you have a way to stick it to them for trying to make you pay more... or you can pay more. Options are good.
Apart from them being gold seller:
I have bought game codes from them several times now and never had an issue. Since about one year tho they lack the great deals they once had. Currently you are better off buying elsewhere, even if only money is concerned.
Try greenmangaming.com for example. Change your IP to US and get ESO imperial edition for 46€ that way. Or pay the insulting EU price and get it for 64€. Standard Edition is cheaper of corse.
MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.
Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?