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UI is pretty much perfect for me as it is now. Sorry, but I refuse to heal in another MMO where I'm just playing whack-a-mole with unit frames. I'd like to actually look at what's going on in the game for once. I didn't buy a 780Ti SC just so I can constantly stare at health bars in the corner of the screen.
Having put so much effort into developing and promoting the RvR play in ESO, I doubt that ZOS will have any option other than providing a full spectrum of combat data for the PVP enthusiasts.
To all intents and purposes, the "ES experience" will end when you step inside Cyrodiil.
That will be the domain of min/maxing and extensive and sophisticated add-ons. You can choose not to use the add-ons of course, but don't complain if you end up paying the price for your stubbornes.
And by "extensive & sophisticated" add-ons, I'm sure you mean using every bit of information that you can get to gain an advantage over those that don't choose to use it. I'm confused as to how many people act like they are MORE skillful for using these add-ons. Those with true skill don't need an add-on to tell them when their enemy is casting, don't need an add-on to tell them when their buffs expire, don't need an add-on to tell them when to cast certain spells, and don't need an add-on to identify Vampires or Werewolves. If you are truly skillful, you'd be confident & useful using the same UI as everybody else.
YES!
So being prepared and doing research and having forethought are bad things now?
Yes having mods does mean you have more skill than someone who doesn't. Just like going and researching on a wiki does too. Sorry that is how the world works, those who prepare get an advantage.
Originally posted by ZeroPointNRG UI is pretty much perfect for me as it is now. Sorry, but I refuse to heal in another MMO where I'm just playing whack-a-mole with unit frames. I'd like to actually look at what's going on in the game for once. I didn't buy a 780Ti SC just so I can constantly stare at health bars in the corner of the screen.
I agree, they (the modders) should do a better job, and make a UI that doesn't force you to stare at bars all day long to heal.
Having put so much effort into developing and promoting the RvR play in ESO, I doubt that ZOS will have any option other than providing a full spectrum of combat data for the PVP enthusiasts.
To all intents and purposes, the "ES experience" will end when you step inside Cyrodiil.
That will be the domain of min/maxing and extensive and sophisticated add-ons. You can choose not to use the add-ons of course, but don't complain if you end up paying the price for your stubbornes.
And by "extensive & sophisticated" add-ons, I'm sure you mean using every bit of information that you can get to gain an advantage over those that don't choose to use it. I'm confused as to how many people act like they are MORE skillful for using these add-ons. Those with true skill don't need an add-on to tell them when their enemy is casting, don't need an add-on to tell them when their buffs expire, don't need an add-on to tell them when to cast certain spells, and don't need an add-on to identify Vampires or Werewolves. If you are truly skillful, you'd be confident & useful using the same UI as everybody else.
YES!
So being prepared and doing research and having forethought are bad things now?
Yes having mods does mean you have more skill than someone who doesn't. Just like going and researching on a wiki does too. Sorry that is how the world works, those who prepare get an advantage.
It doesn't mean you have more skill... it means you need a crutch.
Sorry that is how the world works, those who prepare get an advantage.
lol what a joke. Prepare? How much preparedness does it take to look at three guys and see which one has the lowest stamina and go for that guy? srsly...
Originally posted by ZeroPointNRG UI is pretty much perfect for me as it is now. Sorry, but I refuse to heal in another MMO where I'm just playing whack-a-mole with unit frames. I'd like to actually look at what's going on in the game for once. I didn't buy a 780Ti SC just so I can constantly stare at health bars in the corner of the screen.
I agree, they (the modders) should do a better job, and make a UI that doesn't force you to stare at bars all day long to heal.
I played a healer and didn't have to keep looking at the group window. It's working perfectly fine with the UI as is.
Nice to see that response form them. Can you say "API NERF INCOMING!"
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if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
A lot of this really depends on just how extensive, and what type of add-ons are allowed to be put in place. Many add-ons are not much more than providing some additional information to the user, or assisting with micro-managing small details so you can focus on other things (ie: paying attention to an actual fight taking place rather than having to stare at bars / icons). On the other hand there are others which can offer clear combat advantages over someone who doesnt have the same add-on. For example in WAR we had an add-on called Target Ring which initially seemed pretty harmless, it simply put a more easily distinguishable mark around your selected target, but the upper hand it gave was that the target ring persisted even after an enemy was out of LoS and allowed you to track the enemy's movements behind buildings, walls, etc removing the ability for them to lose you in the terrain and sneak around to flank you. You could see exactly where they were at all times.Meanwhile the other player without Target Ring would lose track of you behind obstacles, giving you the upper hand.
Any add-ons which simply provide some extra information, assist in micro managing, etc I don't see a problem with. In fact I find that most players who rely on some of these tools are actually pretty bad because they have no clue what to do when caught in a situation where they cant do what the add-on tells them they should be doing (such as using a certain skill while they are under the effect of a debuff that prevents it, or are out of range to use it, etc). They forget how to actually play and react on the fly without being told what they should be doing and wind up just floundering around trying to figure it out while getting killed.
Those that allow you to see things that you cant normally see (such as position of players that you cant actually see on screen) should not be allowed.
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
How does this make sense? im a Casual player in all of my game's FPS,Sports i still end up in the top tier. Elders Scrolls was not built on just MMO players , On a leveled playing field i'm sure an Elder Scrolls Series Vet will be competitive in this game.
Hope the API gets nerfed to shit. Anything not covered by the default UI should not be available in mods. If you want a screen filled with stats, where a mod presses all your 48 hot keys for you, then go play any other mmorpg (WoW, Rift, EQ2, etc, etc.... It has nothing to do with being prepared. You lot that wiki fights and look at videos before doing anything new in a game are the casuals. The hardcore people are the ones that make those videos for you to watch. If you played any other RPG you probably have your second screen opened up to a walk through. Mods don't make you a better or more skilled player. They play the game for you. Stop kidding yourself.
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
So what are you afraid of ?
Nothing...we are rolling our eyes at you and others that need the mods to PvP in an MMO
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
How does this make sense? im a Casual player in all of my game's FPS,Sports i still end up in the top tier. Elders Scrolls was not built on just MMO players , On a leveled playing field i'm sure an Elder Scrolls Series Vet will be competitive in this game.
Sounds like you are saying the same as the quote you are replying to.....
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
So what are you afraid of ?
Nothing...we are rolling our eyes at you and others that need the mods to PvP in an MMO
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
So what are you afraid of ?
Nothing...we are rolling our eyes at you and others that need the mods to PvP in an MMO
I think you read that wrong
Quite possibly...but it look s like you asking "what are you afraid" of (about people using mods)....amIwrong?
Prolly am...
:P
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
So what are you afraid of ?
Nothing...we are rolling our eyes at you and others that need the mods to PvP in an MMO
I think you read that wrong
Quite possibly...but it look s like you asking "what are you afraid" of (about people using mods)....amIwrong?
Prolly am...
:P
Reread cetra's post. He is saying that people that don't use addons are bad at pvp and would always get's steamrolled by ''serious mmo players'' .
He had that reaction after we had information concerning a most probable nerf to the API. So the guy will loose his advantage over people that prefer not to use addons.
So that is why I am asking him why he is afraid of a leveled play field.
if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
So what are you afraid of ?
Nothing...we are rolling our eyes at you and others that need the mods to PvP in an MMO
I think you read that wrong
Quite possibly...but it look s like you asking "what are you afraid" of (about people using mods)....amIwrong?
Prolly am...
:P
Reread cetra's post. He is saying that people that don't use addons are bad at pvp and would always get's steamrolled by ''serious mmo players'' .
He had that reaction after we had information concerning a most probable nerf to the API. So the guy will loose his advantage over people that prefer not to use addons.
So that is why I am asking him why he is afraid of a leveled play field.
Ok....so I'm rolling my eyes at him!
Get's to hard to fight through the haze here sometimes...
:P
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
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Mind sharing your specs and fps?
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So being prepared and doing research and having forethought are bad things now?
Yes having mods does mean you have more skill than someone who doesn't. Just like going and researching on a wiki does too. Sorry that is how the world works, those who prepare get an advantage.
I agree, they (the modders) should do a better job, and make a UI that doesn't force you to stare at bars all day long to heal.
It doesn't mean you have more skill... it means you need a crutch.
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lol what a joke. Prepare? How much preparedness does it take to look at three guys and see which one has the lowest stamina and go for that guy? srsly...
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I get over 120 fps steady with ESO on ultra. Sorry for the off topic stuff people.
I played a healer and didn't have to keep looking at the group window. It's working perfectly fine with the UI as is.
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if you dont use addon, you are either a super casual player or a noob. Does it still matter if anyone has "any" advantage over you? Any half serious mmo player will be better than you even without mods.
So what are you afraid of ?
Awesome! thanks so much
A lot of this really depends on just how extensive, and what type of add-ons are allowed to be put in place. Many add-ons are not much more than providing some additional information to the user, or assisting with micro-managing small details so you can focus on other things (ie: paying attention to an actual fight taking place rather than having to stare at bars / icons). On the other hand there are others which can offer clear combat advantages over someone who doesnt have the same add-on. For example in WAR we had an add-on called Target Ring which initially seemed pretty harmless, it simply put a more easily distinguishable mark around your selected target, but the upper hand it gave was that the target ring persisted even after an enemy was out of LoS and allowed you to track the enemy's movements behind buildings, walls, etc removing the ability for them to lose you in the terrain and sneak around to flank you. You could see exactly where they were at all times.Meanwhile the other player without Target Ring would lose track of you behind obstacles, giving you the upper hand.
Any add-ons which simply provide some extra information, assist in micro managing, etc I don't see a problem with. In fact I find that most players who rely on some of these tools are actually pretty bad because they have no clue what to do when caught in a situation where they cant do what the add-on tells them they should be doing (such as using a certain skill while they are under the effect of a debuff that prevents it, or are out of range to use it, etc). They forget how to actually play and react on the fly without being told what they should be doing and wind up just floundering around trying to figure it out while getting killed.
Those that allow you to see things that you cant normally see (such as position of players that you cant actually see on screen) should not be allowed.
How does this make sense? im a Casual player in all of my game's FPS,Sports i still end up in the top tier. Elders Scrolls was not built on just MMO players , On a leveled playing field i'm sure an Elder Scrolls Series Vet will be competitive in this game.
Nothing...we are rolling our eyes at you and others that need the mods to PvP in an MMO
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Sounds like you are saying the same as the quote you are replying to.....
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
I think you read that wrong
Quite possibly...but it look s like you asking "what are you afraid" of (about people using mods)....amIwrong?
Prolly am...
:P
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Reread cetra's post. He is saying that people that don't use addons are bad at pvp and would always get's steamrolled by ''serious mmo players'' .
He had that reaction after we had information concerning a most probable nerf to the API. So the guy will loose his advantage over people that prefer not to use addons.
So that is why I am asking him why he is afraid of a leveled play field.
Ok....so I'm rolling my eyes at him!
Get's to hard to fight through the haze here sometimes...
:P
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."