I guess tomorrow's poll will be no weapons, no skills, naked PVP
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Do you think if you make enough threads about this you are going to eventually trick some people into thinking racial bonuses matter for PvP? As has been established every time you try this (and is known by anyone paying the slightest bit of attention) the soft caps render racial bonuses irrelevant in the long run.
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Originally posted by CazNeerg Do you think if you make enough threads about this you are going to eventually trick some people into thinking racial bonuses matter for PvP? As has been established every time you try this (and is known by anyone paying the slightest bit of attention) the soft caps render racial bonuses irrelevant in the long run.
Or they allow you to branch out to a 3/4 role build and be just as effective, but it's fairly useless to the classical understanding of min/max.
I don't quite know if I agree with the balance they've struck between the factions as far as the racials go, but by no means should they disable racials in PvP.
I assume you intended for the poll qualifiers to instill a bias in the participants, but you're spot on when you state that racials make you special. Just like your class makes you special. Just like your weapon choice makes you special. Just like... etc., etc.
Originally posted by CazNeerg Do you think if you make enough threads about this you are going to eventually trick some people into thinking racial bonuses matter for PvP? As has been established every time you try this (and is known by anyone paying the slightest bit of attention) the soft caps render racial bonuses irrelevant in the long run.
There is no soft cap to the 6% extra elemental damage that High Elves get, nor is there a soft cap on the life tap that Imperials receive.
Why do so many people want to force vanilla ice cream upon the world?
Every racial reflects the lore of the race (sorry Argonians ;( ) and each race can min/max a few builds around their racials. Racials likely help offset weakness more than make you better at one thing anyway due to overcharge.
The biggest worry for ZOS is likely if some racials impact faction balance which is likely the first thing to get nerfed and early. I worry not.
Originally posted by CazNeerg Do you think if you make enough threads about this you are going to eventually trick some people into thinking racial bonuses matter for PvP? As has been established every time you try this (and is known by anyone paying the slightest bit of attention) the soft caps render racial bonuses irrelevant in the long run.
There is no soft cap to the 6% extra elemental damage that High Elves get, nor is there a soft cap on the life tap that Imperials receive.
It is elemental effects not total elemental damage. Effects are a proc bonus and therefore a minor boost to actual damage. As far as I am aware.
There is no soft cap to the 6% extra elemental damage that High Elves get, nor is there a soft cap on the life tap that Imperials receive.
Tamanous addressed the elemental part already. As for the lifetap, in the context of the amount of hitpoints you have in Cyrodiil, it might as well not be present.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
Racial bonuses should be an important part of the decision making of creating a character and should make your character unique. Removing them in Cyrodiil completely defeats the point of having racial bonuses. This is silly.
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Why, oh why, can't people get it into their head that racial bonuses give no real advantage over other players?
It's called a "SOFT CAP" on stats. It's as clear as day on the character sheet in pretty orange colors. Overloading any stat is pointless.
I'm not sure "people" have a problem. We have a single poster who keeps starting threads about it, and not appearing to get any real support, as evidenced by this poll.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
Why, oh why, can't people get it into their head that racial bonuses give no real advantage over other players?
It's called a "SOFT CAP" on stats. It's as clear as day on the character sheet in pretty orange colors. Overloading any stat is pointless.
I'm not sure "people" have a problem. We have a single poster who keeps starting threads about it, and not appearing to get any real support, as evidenced by this poll.
The poll says everything you need to know. Lack of information on a subject leads to misunderstandings on the way the stats in this game work. This could be solved by more clear explanations either by ZOS or the players themselves. Racials are not going to be an issue in Cyrodiil, and if some of them do end up being an issue, they will be fixed. It's really not a big deal either way.
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Maybe he screams witch aswell when he see somone with a black cat
Key-word here being * Exaggerate *
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Ah! I will probably take those swimming points nonetheless just to show off in my pond and rob unsuspecting players of their money.
Plus this might actually help me escape in Cyrodill if I stay near water. Argonian best cowards of ESO...
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In the end Add-Ons are going to be a factor in PvP more than racial traits.
Racial traits will be a very minus difference by end game. Pick whatever race you can stare at the longest.
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Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
Or they allow you to branch out to a 3/4 role build and be just as effective, but it's fairly useless to the classical understanding of min/max.
I will select race based on role play, not usefulness of the bonuses.
Edited.
My bad.
Change that to:
I will select race based on role play, not perceived usefulness of the bonuses.
I don't quite know if I agree with the balance they've struck between the factions as far as the racials go, but by no means should they disable racials in PvP.
I assume you intended for the poll qualifiers to instill a bias in the participants, but you're spot on when you state that racials make you special. Just like your class makes you special. Just like your weapon choice makes you special. Just like... etc., etc.
There is no soft cap to the 6% extra elemental damage that High Elves get, nor is there a soft cap on the life tap that Imperials receive.
No just no, build a secondary toon just for pvp for maximum effeciencey
Why do so many people want to force vanilla ice cream upon the world?
Every racial reflects the lore of the race (sorry Argonians ;( ) and each race can min/max a few builds around their racials. Racials likely help offset weakness more than make you better at one thing anyway due to overcharge.
The biggest worry for ZOS is likely if some racials impact faction balance which is likely the first thing to get nerfed and early. I worry not.
You stay sassy!
It is elemental effects not total elemental damage. Effects are a proc bonus and therefore a minor boost to actual damage. As far as I am aware.
You stay sassy!
Tamanous addressed the elemental part already. As for the lifetap, in the context of the amount of hitpoints you have in Cyrodiil, it might as well not be present.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
I chose no, but not the poll's 'No' The implication of 'being special' clearly colours the OP's reasoning for the poll.
Silly
Why, oh why, can't people get it into their head that racial bonuses give no real advantage over other players?
It's called a "SOFT CAP" on stats. It's as clear as day on the character sheet in pretty orange colors. Overloading any stat is pointless.
I'm not sure "people" have a problem. We have a single poster who keeps starting threads about it, and not appearing to get any real support, as evidenced by this poll.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
I wish it was closer to DAOC, where you faced different races AND different classes.
With each side having the exact same 4 classes, it already seems dumbed down from DAOC.
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The poll says everything you need to know. Lack of information on a subject leads to misunderstandings on the way the stats in this game work. This could be solved by more clear explanations either by ZOS or the players themselves. Racials are not going to be an issue in Cyrodiil, and if some of them do end up being an issue, they will be fixed. It's really not a big deal either way.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.