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Player Housing: Now in Wildstar, soon in SWTOR, what's up ESO ?

SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

With the recent announcement of player housing coming to SWTOR, ESO is starting to look like the "odd one out" when it comes to ingame housing:

Rift has it.

FFXIV has it.

Wildstar has it.

WoW will have it soon (garrisons).

SWTOR will have it soon.

 

Come on ZOS, throw us a bone !

I'm not expecting it at launch of course, but knowing it is definitely planned for the first 6 months post-launch would be awesome news !

Housing that contains player vendors, naturally... image

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  • ezystreetezystreet Member CommonPosts: 21
    I never understood why people get so worked out about player housing.
  • zevni78zevni78 Member UncommonPosts: 1,146
    I've been asking this question since the game was announced, it just seems lazy. Not that I'm a huge housing person but Zeni seem to avoid content and mechanics that would make a lot of sense given the IP.
  • PAL-18PAL-18 Member UncommonPosts: 844

    WoW is getting someking of housing too ,garrisons or something.

     

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  • muffins89muffins89 Member UncommonPosts: 1,585


    Originally posted by ezystreet
    I never understood why people get so worked out about player housing.

    if done right it makes the game at least 10x better.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by PAL-18

    WoW is getting someking of housing too ,garrisons or something.

    Thx for that, totally forgot about WoW's garrisons !

  • SawlstoneSawlstone Member Posts: 301
    You didn't see the $149.99 housing box set? Comes with a Rooster pet.
  • FaustusIVFaustusIV Member Posts: 49

     

    ESO does feel like the odd one out in this regard, just feels a bit lazy not to include player housing.

     

    People keep saying ESO has innovated the genre but I can't think of one thing that it has innovated, just lots of things it doesn't have....

     

    They have not even included a /duel command ffs....

  • AratakiArataki Member UncommonPosts: 239
    Originally posted by FaustusIV

     

    ESO does feel like the odd one out in this regard, just feels a bit lazy not to include player housing.

     

    People keep saying ESO has innovated the genre but I can't think of one thing that it has innovated, just lots of things it doesn't have....

     

    They have not even included a /duel command ffs....

    Must be nice, being able to make up an argument just so you can say it isn't true. I'm sure for folks not paying attention, it might even fool them.

    That being said, if they already had to leave out something much more iconic like the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood, I'm not exactly surprised 'housing' is left on the table until after those get put into the game. How many years has it take SWTOR to get housing? (You can say it, go on.) Or WoW? Or RIFT?

    And you're asking for the first six months?

    Yeah...no.

    If anything it's Wildstar being the odd one out. Kudos to them.

    It would be nice, most definitely. I have no doubt it's coming eventually. Just after the game goes through enough updates and content patches to come into its own. 

  • keenberkeenber Member UncommonPosts: 438
    The only one on that list that has had housing from the launch is wildstar. What it took WOW 10 years and FFXIV only has guild housing ATM that very few can afford. So how about you give TESO time to launch and sort out any bugs that come up with and maybe even do some of the important stuff before they start putting houses in the game.
  • FusionFusion Member UncommonPosts: 1,398
    Originally posted by PAL-18

    WoW is getting someking of housing too ,garrisons or something.

     

    "Only" took them 10yrs or so, when it was promised year 1.

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  • FusionFusion Member UncommonPosts: 1,398
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    With the recent announcement of player housing coming to SWTOR, ESO is starting to look like the "odd one out" when it comes to ingame housing:

    Rift has it. - 4yrs? POST launch

    FFXIV has it. - POST launch

    Wildstar has it. -Only one that'll actually launch with it

    WoW will have it soon (garrisons). -10yrs+ POST launch

    SWTOR will have it soon. -2yrs? POST launch and "soonTM"

     

    Come on ZOS, throw us a bone !

    I'm not expecting it at launch of course, but knowing it is definitely planned for the first 6 months post-launch would be awesome news !

    Housing that contains player vendors, naturally... image

     

    I'm pretty sure they aren't overlooking the aspect, but instead are more focused currently to deliver a proper AvA and 1-50 hurdle.. I'm sure it's on their concept table, if not even in prototyping already.

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  • DauntisDauntis Member UncommonPosts: 600
    Well there is no precedence for player housing in ESO based on the source material... oh wait ...

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  • KuviskiKuviski Member UncommonPosts: 215
    I don't really see the big deal with housing. Sure, it's another feature, but from my experience, instanced housing tends to end up as nothing but fluff in the end anyway.
  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,205
    Yes I want them to drop the meaningful upcoming post launch content they are focusing on like the thieves guild and dark brotherhood guild because I would rather waste their resources on fluff like housing. Yea, that makes sense lol.

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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    I'm actually a huge advocate for player housing, but could care less if this game had it. I enjoy it for what it is. If they add it, cool. If not, i'll survive!
  • IncomparableIncomparable Member UncommonPosts: 1,138

    Player housing that becomes a physical place and reminder of our progress is important enough and a great addition to compliment a game. It allows players to decorate the house with lore/trophies if such a housing system were implemented. Thus it should be in the game as soon as possible.

    It would make pvp/pve/and raids more significant by tying them into housing. Also bridging the progress with alts to one physical location by sharing achievements for decoration.

    Something like a new pvp map, or a new card game, or a new raid, a new form of combat etc, can be added later and adds to the game and housing... but to put something like housing that takes from other parts of the game later on, just seems like bad planning and a bit too late depending on how late that is.

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  • AzurealAzureal Member UncommonPosts: 235

    Housing has no place in instanced themepark games. It works in sandbox games if its coded into a feature from the beginning, like UO, SWG and The Repop (when it releases).

     

    And listing Wildstar as  a game that has housing isnt exactly an argument for something. Wildstar is a pile of shit.

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  • RiannesRiannes Member UncommonPosts: 98
    Originally posted by Arataki
    Originally posted by FaustusIV

     

    ESO does feel like the odd one out in this regard, just feels a bit lazy not to include player housing.

     

    People keep saying ESO has innovated the genre but I can't think of one thing that it has innovated, just lots of things it doesn't have....

     

    They have not even included a /duel command ffs....

    Must be nice, being able to make up an argument just so you can say it isn't true. I'm sure for folks not paying attention, it might even fool them.

    That being said, if they already had to leave out something much more iconic like the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood, I'm not exactly surprised 'housing' is left on the table until after those get put into the game. How many years has it take SWTOR to get housing? (You can say it, go on.) Or WoW? Or RIFT?

    And you're asking for the first six months?

    Yeah...no.

    If anything it's Wildstar being the odd one out. Kudos to them.

    It would be nice, most definitely. I have no doubt it's coming eventually. Just after the game goes through enough updates and content patches to come into its own. 

     

    Except ESO is competing against WoW of today. Rift today etc etc today. It is not competing against WoW, Rift, SWTOR of years ago. So his claim is very much valid.

     

    Personally i don't mind that ESO won't have housing (at launch at least) but itd be a nice feature to have nonetheless (even more so for RP players).

  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    Never got this fascination with player housing.  It's like getting excited over a Dollhouse.  If anything, ESO should break the mold of your typical MMO and put housing in Cyrodiil.  Put them at the risk of being pillaged and burned to the ground.

  • MpfiveMpfive Member UncommonPosts: 308
    Originally posted by PAL-18

    WoW is getting someking of housing too ,garrisons or something.

     

    Probably filled with daily quests..

  • cueaidcueaid Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Why get worked up about the others makeing it? Zenimax have not said that they would not make it as a part of a big patch or expansion pack like many other games do, Like DAOC, WoW, Rift, SWTOR.. so its no big deal that its not in at lanuch cool the jets guys not the end of the world :)
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by Satarious
    Never got this fascination with player housing.  It's like getting excited over a Dollhouse.  If anything, ESO should break the mold of your typical MMO and put housing in Cyrodiil.  Put them at the risk of being pillaged and burned to the ground.

    Actually, I think player-owned or guild-owned structures in a PVP zone would be an awesome idea. Not instead of "dollhouses", but in addition to. That could make for a great expansion, player/guild owned territories attached to Cyrodiil, complete with buildable structures...

  • FaustusIVFaustusIV Member Posts: 49

     

    The fact that all those other games launched without player housing is irrelevant.

     

    The relevant fact is that they have player housing now.

     

    Unfortunately for ESO it is not launching in 2003, it is launching in 2014 and therefore, if it wishes to be successful it must compete with it's rival games as they are today or how they will be in the immediate future. You cannot judge the game versus standard of content a decade ago.

     

    Where is the so called innovation in ESO? All I see is content/feature gaps when compared to it's rivals...

     

    SWTOR launched with many features that are now considered standard missing, it paid the price and would not have recovered without the F2P/hybrid model...which is exactly where I see ESO headed.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    Originally posted by ezystreet
    I never understood why people get so worked out about player housing.

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  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,315

    Anyone else resent threads like this that disparage your intelligence?

    OP knows damn well that exactly one game on the list had it at launch, the rest taking years to add it to the game, and asks a question that makes it seem like ESO is the "only" one who is not going to have housing.

    I'd like to see housing too, more things to do for people to take a break from combat in the game, and still keep them playing, but right now, I'd rather see it launch well with what it has, and personal preference, I'd rather see a Cyrodill "Darkness Falls" type of area to be the crowing PvP/PvE experience for people.

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