Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Leaving online for good.
Orenshii
Member Posts: 61
I am leaving Mmorpg, online games and even online as a whole forever.
I started playing online games when my friend introduced me to meridian online. It was interesting. killing centipedes,hanging out with people, even doding that pker in the feilds who loved his fireballs. As time went on I got into ultima online, and like alot of other people who read these forums, had a rich and vibrant experience. But it's at that time I started noticing additudes of people online slowly becoming toxic.
I then went on to try a game made by nexon called Nexus. I really enjoyed roleplaying and forming friendships with people in that game. As time went on I started noticing people with power positions were abusing their positions. I tried to ignore them, but after time they became completly un-avoidable. The playerbase was dying out right when nexon sold the rights to the game known as KRU interactive. I played this game for years, As time went on the company created a item shop to buy vanity items. Since then they focus all their efforts into that cash shop completly ignoring the dreams people have to change the game. Once i realized they were double dipping into customer pockets with p2p and item shop i decided to leave for good. This is when i started noticing game companies, were all about making money and not trying to build virtual worlds.
After Nexus I went on to play final fantasy online, Again the world was beautiful robust with people everywhere. So many cool concepts and art taken from the series and made to see in an online world. The first time i saw a malboro in ffxi i freaked out about how errie it was. and I should have, it killed my whole party 
But as i progressed through the game into lvl 50's I started noticing this "do it our way, or we wont play with you " type on mentalities. As a person who isnt quick to take fact from peoples mouths, I dabbled in odd job combinations. But in the end i was forsaken by the people who spoke my language. I found myself in Japanese linkshells because they accepted my differences, unlike the NA people whom i could actually understand. I still play ffxi to date, but its not the same to me anymore, the people have grown bitter. Perhaps all things online are evolving this way.
While playing FFxi online, I jumped through many games trying to find a idea community for me that would be fun to play. I've played more games that alot of people have even heard of. I played everything from ragnarok1 to eve online. Each game I played the community was noticibly more toxic than before. Every game that passed it got worse and worse, Competetive people just would not let me have my slow paced gaming. I tried on many occasion to take a game that had become competetive and slow down, but just foundt myself alone.
Getting tired of players competetion, griefing and just down right elitistism, i decided to delve into the internet to aid me with finding a mmorpg for me. Thats when i discovered mmorpg.com and a smaller site mpod. I spent years looking through games, downloading making accounts. Everytime i log into a game seing people arguing, fighting, mpking, griefing and showing obvious signs of neopolian complexs. Ive grown very weary of people additudes online, Never in real life have i had people treat me the way they do online. And I guess rightfully so, Im a trained kenpo instructor.
After years of looking for a good community, a good game, and a good forum. I have decided to leave the internet for good. I got rid of my phones years back. cable tv is gone. All that is left for me to disconnect from the internet. Maybe one day when our world decides to grow up and stop fighting over invisible gods, unprovable ideas and learns to controll its more animal insticts of being a miserable asshole, Then i might come back.
I would say I had the time of my life, But i would be lying to myself and all of you. Goodbye mmorpg, though you gave many hours of reading materials, Still in the end The problems i have with online communities seeped into your website and forums. It is now i realize, this world of intranets was not made for people like me.
O - Renshii
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
Comments
Well im a kenpo instructor, That will take alot of my time. I love teaching the kids
I also have art, and cooking. Went to cunlinary school 15 years back i guess i could also delve into that.
I honestly think people are so hopelessy addicted to online they cant even seem to fathom what a life without feels like. Well the taste ive had are that as strong as a fresh fig. And if you seperate yourself from online for a just a little while, you will find out that you are talented in a whole bunch of things, but you will never find them if all your time is preoccupied.
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
I hear ya, but remember that growing also gives you insight that others lack and you can see the infinite and know the truth unlike them that nothing lasts forever, therefore you can be more aware instead of falling in the constant traps like they do. The only sad part being the knowledge that there is nothing you can do.
It isn't easy being a rogue or to have honor among thieves, but in the end they are the only ones that have fun, if only the spring chickens realized this fact, but they are bound by their devices and yet naive.
I think the saying here would be, always know you are not alone and that all will be revealed in time. Stay vigilant for your role is that of which few have seen.
The saying ignorance is bliss, grows stronger with me as each day passes.
But I thank you for your kind words, I wish we could have spoke sooner. I will prob sit around the site another hour while i clean up my house, But after that I will be gone. Figured a few replies on my topic before i left would be respectful to the community, I guess my last attempt at trying to tame the beast.
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
The internet is like the real world. Just because you don't like some of it, it's no reason to give up on all of it. You just have to pick the parts you do like and enjoy them....and avoid the parts you don't.
I hardly play mmos anymore because they're all the same. I still enjoy one or two and just play them once in a while. Most of my time is spent playing multiplayer games with friends....like orcs must die 2 !!
That really sucks man. Just know that not everyone is like that. I myself have a group and mumble going we are slow paced we enjoy the experience and we have fun doing it.
In diablo yeah we play hardcore. If you die your dead some of us have died a few times but we always go back to help no complaints, as long as we arew having fun together it doesnt matter.
I am toxic toward companies and the way the mmo industry is headed thats where you will see my dislike reflected in posts.
If you want to stick around message me i hope you do.
and i hope you keep your internet plugged in don't let a community hinder your living there are vast amounts of knowledge on the net,at your disposal.
You may miss out on prospective students if you do not have a website. A greater variety of resources for your cooking or your art are going to be available online. Even if you do not actively engage with other people on the internet, it does not make sense to ignore it completely.
Unlike in the real world, when people attack me they dont get away with it. And you are probally right, Ive tried everything from private forums, social media, and even some pyschological forums to simple kid type of games, I would lvoe to find a community that didnt have some stipulation attached to it to be able to fit in. I mean christians love christians in christian forums, aethist in aethist forums. But if your not in their group they dont treat you very well, specially if you like to ask questions.
Sadly, In my life i was super popular in highshool (hated it!) as time went on all those friends i had were lost. Not because of death (well some were) but because i couldnt stand the things they did. From things such as hardcore drugs, to using people etc. Over time all i foundt was my husband, and as great as he is, he isnt very good at gaming at all due to some nerve issues in his arms and shoulders. I have tried to meet people online a bunch of times. Hell currently the guy i play ffxi with and have for years now, Ive been begging to come visit me but he just wont do it. I started to realize as time went on, I had a whole slew of "E-friends" but when push came to shove it never broke that barrier. No matter how hard i tried or how polite i was. So i do lack friends, I have a hubby but as said before, cant exactly game with him
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
Actually, the internet is not the same as the real world...anonymity is a license some people use to treat others the way they would never do face to face, imho.
Because numbers are more important to game makers then anything else, there is little to no penalty for being, racist, sexist, crude, rude, unethical etc. The pursuit of riches has always corrupted, and gaming is no different.
I will date myself by recalling being on AOL in it's infancy<right after Applelink> and seeing folks get instantly disconnected for swearing, or exhibiting any rude behavior. We've come a long way since the 70's, but not always in a good way. The only way I can play many times is to just shut off chat. Thankfully, I love exploring and soloing a lot so it works most of the time. But, I do miss the more tame days of long ago truth be told
Strangely enough, I am also a <former> Kenpo instructor lol. I think the martial training with its accent on respect, even for your foe, makes this new age of attitude a bit hard to swallow. When I first played DAOC, it was common to be saluted by the player after you were killed in RvR...those were the days.
I know not everyone is like that, I must just have their worst luck imaginable
As for my internet, I have spent a year atleast contemplating rather or not i should. You should see my pros to cons list i wrote down. Its 3 pages front and back long.
Thanks for replying
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I donot agree with you, I think online is actually messing things up for businesses. Infact take a gander over @ google and research companies moving away from internet. You just might be surprised.
Thanks for replying
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
At one point I had reached the point you are at and started questioning why I continued playing online games. From your post it seems a huge problem, as it was with me, were downright rude or obnoxious people in your games of choice. I am sure every gamer has experienced this at some point in their gaming life. Just as in life in game you will run across those people who you want to avoid. I live my life by associating with like minded and helpful people and trying to avoid those who are miserable and only want to make you miserable. I found in games there are always friendly people either via guilds or just a small group of friends I found who enhance my gaming experience. I don't play Wow but I expect even in that toxic soup of a game there are friendly people/guilds who help make that a fun experience.
Try Everquest 2 on the Antonia Bayle server. Its a roleplay server and everyone is a bit more laid back. Aside from a few high end raid guilds, there is very little elitism there. Join a good guild and they do all sorts of community events. There are activities for crafters, decorators and even casual players (doing a plethora of old content).
In fact look for roleplaying servers on any game you enjoy. They are usually more community oriented.
And you post is the very reason I think the way I do. You think Im attention seeking, Well good for you. And tomorrow when im not around to see anything else is it still attention seeking? Im saying goodbye to the forums I have been reading for a very long time. If you donot like it, dont post "seeking your own attention"
And little quips like "just sayin" are very immature.
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
Very well said. Chaos plays a role over everything and everyone. My husband said I made chaos mad at me, and that made me a walking murpheys law.
Thanks for replying
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
I have actually spent some time roleplaying in EQ and EQ2. I much prefered EQ interface and style of playing myself. As for finding roleplaying guilds, I was in a big one online for a few years. But all they did was game hop. I was a primogen of phoenix clan in nexustk, I was Leader of the biggest LS on cerberus server for a few month (til ARR stomped it). I had joined so many guilds that finally i gave up years back and tried to make my own. Had some very good ones, but in the end i lost most people because they were rarely every excited about advancing as a group, as they were personally.
Thanks for the reply
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
I've heard books, conversations with loved ones and friends, exercise and music can keep one entertained, informed, cultured and healthy.
Throw in some travel and outdoors too.
I have followed his path and have been TV-less since 2001. I prioritize the above in my day and I envy his ability to cut the chord to the internet.
If I ever gain that courage however, don't expect a goodbye post from me - I'll rip that band-aid right off.
I feel you, OP.
However, leaving the internet is not the answer.
I will suggest to you to quit mmorpgs (I have for the most part) and even forums if they bother you (I have not, myself) and move into some tabletop gaming. Game/comic shops often have boards where local gaming groups will advertise for new players. I am playing Pathfinder twice a month with a group and having a blast.
-I wish you luck and understand your feelings. Much could be said here but I am short on time- The internet and gaming online has become a cesspool...Sadly.
Good for you man I also gave up TV a few years ago. Hundreds of channels and nothing really ever interesting on. If I want to watch a series like Game of Throne or whatever, I'll pay to watch the entire season online.
I was just taught to introduce myself, say thanks,please and goodbye when i leave the room or area
The thought to just pull the corrd out and say forget the people i knew , Then i realized was selfish of me. My friend could have been waiting all day for me to come online, just to never hear from me again. Even though he is a E-friend. It would have been rude not to say bye. When you do finally pull the plug, Thnk about others just not yourself. Maybe if you do you might be saying bye like me to 
Thanks for the reply
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
I don't tend to believe that being online is an addiction. IMO, it's a major evolutionary step for mankind. But like anything else, it's a great servant, but a horrible master.
Like all evolutionary steps, there are ugly, disgusting aspects. The way some people behave when they're anonymous, for example. Something that particularly shows its head in forums...
Your journey is your own, but I suspect that it will someday involve "being online" as much as anything else, but on terms that work for you. Either way, if you feel the need to leave, then I say good luck to ya's!
Well Honestly I think leaving the internet is the answer. But thats my opinion, i dont expect anyone else to agree or understand
It is trully sad to see the internet in current condition. Its even more sad to watch it wither away, And i just cant do that anymore. Its almost like watching a loved one int he hospital.. It just breaks your heart to see them go that way.
Thanks for the reply
O
Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton
Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her
You looked way too much into what I said, so much so you went far beyond it. IF I meant it in such a way, my follow up would have been "u mad?".
Again you're showing the typical internet mentality of choosing to attack rather than consider what's being said. I meant no offense by that, just a lesson that you're just as guilty as everyone else, you prove it here yet again. There are different forms of attention seeking and all humans are essentially guilty of it in one form or another. You say you're just saying goodbye, while ripping into just about the entirety of the internet including this community. As if you're somehow above it all. IF you were you would have left peacefully and quietly.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I think some of this came out from one of SOE's letters about how the nature of mmo's and consumption have changed considerably since 10 years ago. I would say that "elitism" is becoming a less visible barrier; is someone an actual good player or are the enhanced armor stats they are wearing make it easier for them? Likewise saying "I'm skilled" has no quantifiable measure but we can examine gear and make inferences that are far from being factual and highly subjective. There aren't many mmo's out there that push a players skill level and ability and still enforce the idea that you're just not rambo.
Personally I think mmo's are hurting both in interest and trying to create or accomplish something different. In the past few years the only game that has hit the market that I would say wasn't niche and yet really made a splace for being unique was Demon's Souls. Outside that game, not much has gone in the way of gaming in general; you get interesting titles and takes on generes and even titles that diverge from traditional storylines and take a great spin on it. I feel games like Tomb Raider, Injustice and The Last Of Us did just that in creating something that had been already present as far as game type but approached it differently and presented it in a new way.
MMO's do really need that type of revival; something that allows the gaming community to experience something old but in a new fashion. I don't have a single clue how they'd do that but it's something that owuld be nice to see.