I think my point was that as far as i know most if not all but this game are greenlit early access with no NDA. Meaning i can discuss with others in early access about what works and what does not work. If they are gonna ask for cash to help them test it, they need to drop the NDA. That's how i feel, even if it's a small amount, the NDA should be gone.
You can discuss with other early access members on their forums!
While i appreciate your passion, i think you just don't understand what i am trying to get across.
I will look into this game when they lift the NDA, not a minute sooner. thanks.
That may be true.. but you still have to pay. If they need testers they should just select them like other Devs.
They have and I'm one of them. They had ppl testing before they gave ppl this option to support them and see the game first hand. But bare in mind that this company has basicly zero budget and many devs work on this game next to their day job. So if those big studio's aren't paying all the testers then why should they?
I don't have a problem paying for a game if it is worth the price. Being in the ESO beta, I got to see first hand without any investment whether I liked it or not. This game wants me to pay to see if I like it? And then if I didn't like it, not be able to talk about it? Nope. 10$ is meaningless in the big picture but all the same, not gonna do it.Cant compare the 2. Anyone who wanted to try ESO got to try it for free. Then people made the decision whether to purchase or not. I have purchased plenty of pre-alpha games and none have had an NDA yet.
Can't compare the 2 because one of them isn't in beta yet so we don't know if it will be free to try. But if you are gonna make an assuption it's more logical GV is more open then ESO.... because you can already see GV if you want to in pre-alpha and that wasn't possible with ESO in pre-alpha, alpha and most of it's beta. And you are afraid they scam you out of $10? I'm pretty sure they give it back if you absolutely hate what you see. If that is the case I will pay you $10 on top of that just to make a point
The $10 is not the complete issue at all. It is the pay me to play my game and your not allowed to talk about it that bugs me. I have no issues with NDA's. I have no issue with pre-alpha purchases. I do take exception to paying and being told to shut up. I'll keep an eye on it though. No ill will towards the game, just the decision they have made towards their version of pre alpha testing.
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Originally posted by Sephros The $10 is not the complete issue at all. It is the pay me to play my game and your not allowed to talk about it that bugs me. I have no issues with NDA's. I have no issue with pre-alpha purchases. I do take exception to paying and being told to shut up. I'll keep an eye on it though. No ill will towards the game, just the decision they have made towards their version of pre alpha testing.
It isn't theirs specifically, it is a industry trend (Warthunder Ground forces closed beta had this for the first wave as well, ESO could be seen like this as well for the first few beta weekends, EQN:L too, etc). That said if they are pulling back the veil so early you kinda have to wonder if they're foolhardy, believe in their game and its current quality or both.
What I can say about this game personally: I pitched in the 10$ few weeks back, got access but am currently waiting for a element I love in MMOs to get put in in the next few patches so I can start tinkering around in earnest with it.
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Originally posted by bcbully I can't OP on this one. I'm not even sure why it's on the hype page. It's really too soon for them to have even went public imo.
Actually by what I've played of it... not really too soon for the public bit, it is ready to show and play even if it is WIP very much (the essentials are in or covered well enough with a rough version of the final system, not fully fledged but well more than enough to give you an idea what sort of game it is and to be frank ~8.5 euros to know now if it is worth waiting for or not, for me it is personally).
Indie dev + paid + closed = warning warning danger will robinson!
This is pretty much reality. I could say more but I choose not to.
Kinda weird comming from you with that LiF signature under your post.....
I am just stating the fact that at a $10.00 price point it would be smart to drop the NDA to gain support and new players. It has nothing to do with my sig. I'm not bashing the game by any means. LiF and GV are two completely different games in the way they will play.
Originally posted by Sephros The $10 is not the complete issue at all. It is the pay me to play my game and your not allowed to talk about it that bugs me. I have no issues with NDA's. I have no issue with pre-alpha purchases. I do take exception to paying and being told to shut up. I'll keep an eye on it though. No ill will towards the game, just the decision they have made towards their version of pre alpha testing.
I'm not quite sure it's as weird a concept as people are letting on here. Companies offer alpha/beta access with pledges, hell it's the only way to get a full testing spot with EQN, you can only get limited access any other way. I"m sure these people are still under NDA as well. Paid or not the game is in pre-alpha, no reason to tell the world a pre-alpha has problems...when the devs themselves tell you to expect them. IF they're on steam they have to. Otherwise they'll get pulled. I can't see why anyone would feel the need to spill the beans on a pre-alpha product.
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Indie dev + paid + closed = warning warning danger will robinson!
This is pretty much reality. I could say more but I choose not to.
Kinda weird comming from you with that LiF signature under your post.....
I am just stating the fact that at a $10.00 price point it would be smart to drop the NDA to gain support and new players. It has nothing to do with my sig. I'm not bashing the game by any means. LiF and GV are two completely different games in the way they will play.
They asked for $10 I gave them $15 and I am not disappointed and that isn't much in the long run. Last I looked Life is Feudal wants 50 euros which is almost $69 dollars to gain access to their pre-alpha.
1. Is there full first-person where you can see arms and weapons and such?
2. How "real-time" is the action combat. Is it like fakey like ESO or is it real like Darkfall or Mortal?
3. Is there a basic NPC-driven system of law or is it a complete FFA gank-fest like Darkfall? I don't really mind either way, just curious.
Can't see myself putting down money til I learn answers to these three questions.
1. No
2. Very real time. You aim higher to shoot you arrow farther.
3. There are no systems atm. Everything you see is slated to be added in the future.
It's a game with a good concept, but I would wait, unless you just want to support.
I definitely do.
Pity about 1st person, but I can live with it. Grabbin' it.
Just a quick note regarding your no 1 point (first-person view) the devs have mentioned that it will be developed later. If I'm not mistaken, it was claimed it would be the default option when it's completed, unless this has changed and I'm not aware of it :-)
GV is no where near a playable state. It has potential, but they usually do.
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While i appreciate your passion, i think you just don't understand what i am trying to get across.
I will look into this game when they lift the NDA, not a minute sooner.
thanks.
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They have and I'm one of them. They had ppl testing before they gave ppl this option to support them and see the game first hand. But bare in mind that this company has basicly zero budget and many devs work on this game next to their day job. So if those big studio's aren't paying all the testers then why should they?https://www.facebook.com/FUtilez ||| https://twitter.com/FUtilez ||| https://www.youtube.com/futilezguild
Can't compare the 2 because one of them isn't in beta yet so we don't know if it will be free to try. But if you are gonna make an assuption it's more logical GV is more open then ESO.... because you can already see GV if you want to in pre-alpha and that wasn't possible with ESO in pre-alpha, alpha and most of it's beta. And you are afraid they scam you out of $10? I'm pretty sure they give it back if you absolutely hate what you see. If that is the case I will pay you $10 on top of that just to make a pointhttps://www.facebook.com/FUtilez ||| https://twitter.com/FUtilez ||| https://www.youtube.com/futilezguild
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Pay to get alpha/beta access?
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It isn't theirs specifically, it is a industry trend (Warthunder Ground forces closed beta had this for the first wave as well, ESO could be seen like this as well for the first few beta weekends, EQN:L too, etc). That said if they are pulling back the veil so early you kinda have to wonder if they're foolhardy, believe in their game and its current quality or both.
What I can say about this game personally: I pitched in the 10$ few weeks back, got access but am currently waiting for a element I love in MMOs to get put in in the next few patches so I can start tinkering around in earnest with it.
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Actually by what I've played of it... not really too soon for the public bit, it is ready to show and play even if it is WIP very much (the essentials are in or covered well enough with a rough version of the final system, not fully fledged but well more than enough to give you an idea what sort of game it is and to be frank ~8.5 euros to know now if it is worth waiting for or not, for me it is personally).
Tell them to lift the NDA and I'll consider it.
Until then No.
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I'm not going to encourage you to buy, in fact I encourage You not to buy. But in time this will be a gem.
With a negative attitude towards an Alpha, I look for little to no feedback or input from you.
Wait for full fledged game, Otherwise, it seems that you would not be satisfied.
The Pre-Alpha is for patient folks whom want to contribute input for the Dev's and are not expecting a polished game.
This is pretty much reality. I could say more but I choose not to.
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This is pretty much reality. I could say more but I choose not to.
Kinda weird comming from you with that LiF signature under your post.....https://www.facebook.com/FUtilez ||| https://twitter.com/FUtilez ||| https://www.youtube.com/futilezguild
I am just stating the fact that at a $10.00 price point it would be smart to drop the NDA to gain support and new players. It has nothing to do with my sig. I'm not bashing the game by any means. LiF and GV are two completely different games in the way they will play.
Life IS Feudal
I'm not quite sure it's as weird a concept as people are letting on here. Companies offer alpha/beta access with pledges, hell it's the only way to get a full testing spot with EQN, you can only get limited access any other way. I"m sure these people are still under NDA as well. Paid or not the game is in pre-alpha, no reason to tell the world a pre-alpha has problems...when the devs themselves tell you to expect them. IF they're on steam they have to. Otherwise they'll get pulled. I can't see why anyone would feel the need to spill the beans on a pre-alpha product.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This actually looks REALLY cool to me.
OP, some questions before I put down money:
1. Is there full first-person where you can see arms and weapons and such?
2. How "real-time" is the action combat. Is it like fakey like ESO or is it real like Darkfall or Mortal?
3. Is there a basic NPC-driven system of law or is it a complete FFA gank-fest like Darkfall? I don't really mind either way, just curious.
Can't see myself putting down money til I learn answers to these three questions.
They asked for $10 I gave them $15 and I am not disappointed and that isn't much in the long run. Last I looked Life is Feudal wants 50 euros which is almost $69 dollars to gain access to their pre-alpha.
1. No
2. Very real time. You aim higher to shoot you arrow farther.
3. There are no systems atm. Everything you see is slated to be added in the future.
It's a game with a good concept, but I would wait, unless you just want to support.
I definitely do.
Pity about 1st person, but I can live with it. Grabbin' it.
Just a quick note regarding your no 1 point (first-person view) the devs have mentioned that it will be developed later. If I'm not mistaken, it was claimed it would be the default option when it's completed, unless this has changed and I'm not aware of it :-)
This is starting to look like Mortal Online all over....
Great videos in the beginning with awesome gameplay....the game looked great as Skyrim...look at Mortal Online now. A clunky mess disgrace.
I do hope Gloria Victis does not go the same path.
Please check-in and and tell people what you think...
I tried.
Appealing feature-list aside;
GV is no where near a playable state. It has potential, but they usually do.
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