The UI in Wildstar is awful. The UI 2.) coming in next beta is much much better.
I only have 2 major problems with Wildstar. The questing is horribly boring. You do nothing meaningful while questing, just grinding experience to level up. Questing should be fun and immersing one into the story but that doesnt exist in Wildstar, sadly.
The second thing that is beyond acceptable to me is that you have an mmo with variety of progression, various classes, a decent amount of skills, BUT you are stuck with a single weapon type. THey should have taken some lessons from their sister company ANET on how to add different weapons to the same class and make them all feel different (they will make more money anyway according to subscription fanatics, dont they?) So why not work for that money and add real variety of gameplay.
And dont forget that Wildstar at least shows some respect to customers:
Box cost less than TESO (40$ vs 55$).
You have the option to pay the sub by in game currency (like EvE's PLEX).
It doesnt lock any Race making it available only to collectors edition.
There are way less bugs despite it will released 2 months after TESO.
It has EU servers for EU players!!!
It has nothing to do with respecting customers. Both companies are doing exactly the same thing; charging for whatever they think they can, at the highest rate they think they can. Carbine simply doesn't think they can get players to invest as much in Wildstar as ZOS believes they will in ESO.
From my knowledge of Ncsoft they do respect their customers by knowing their limits with cash shops and the like with CoX and gw2 ( not fully sure with gw2 tho) they only really added fun things that really didn't have any affect on game-play if you didn't buy them , zenimax well that a whole other story that can be found in these forums lol .Trying to give Carbine a equal amount if not more negative's than zenimax ( esp in the games(eso) current state) is just ridiculous.
The UI in Wildstar is awful. The UI 2.) coming in next beta is much much better.
I only have 2 major problems with Wildstar. The questing is horribly boring. You do nothing meaningful while questing, just grinding experience to level up. Questing should be fun and immersing one into the story but that doesnt exist in Wildstar, sadly.
The second thing that is beyond acceptable to me is that you have an mmo with variety of progression, various classes, a decent amount of skills, BUT you are stuck with a single weapon type. THey should have taken some lessons from their sister company ANET on how to add different weapons to the same class and make them all feel different (they will make more money anyway according to subscription fanatics, dont they?) So why not work for that money and add real variety of gameplay.
I will agree with questing, but i don't care anymore about them much. I prefer having quality dungeons / raids / group quests / adventures etc in max lvl's tbh. But that's up to personal taste's
Originally posted by Moar61 No offense but I've seen your numerous troll comments in ESO threads, so this post comes off super fanboy-ish. Acting a bit under your age for 36 aren't you?
i have seen his comments as well and from the ones i saw he only posted that he didn't like the game and would comment on what he thought were the negatives , so stating that you don't want to try to ride a dead horse ( eso) or wanna help it back up is some how writing troll comments ? lol one could consider your comment to be on par of a trolls and prob your account so back to the cave please or back to your dead horse lol.
I could accept that for box sale price and sub model, but no with EU servers placed on US and having locked Races for non Collectors Editions. That's disrespect imo and shows a huge greediness by ZOS
There is your mistake; thinking Carbine is any less "greedy" (AKA profit-driven) than ZOS. The difference between the two is what they think they can get their respective customer bases to support, as a practical matter, not some moral or ethical distinction.
Originally posted by Sir_Crowe
From my knowledge of Ncsoft they do respect their customers by knowing their limits with cash shops and the like with CoX and gw2 ( not fully sure with gw2 tho) they only really added fun things that really didn't have any affect on game-play if you didn't buy them , zenimax well that a whole other story that can be found in these forums lol .Trying to give Carbine a equal amount if not more negative's than zenimax ( esp in the games(eso) current state) is just ridiculous.
I'm talking about motive here, not actions. Trying to say that Carbine is motivated by "respect" for customers is laughable. If they thought they would make more money charging the same price as ESO and locking a race to a Collector's Edition, they would do so in a heartbeat. The only thing being indicated here is that they realize that a brand new company with a brand new IP and a small budget product can't "get away with" the same things that a company with a huge budget and an IP that goes back a quarter of a century can.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
The UI in Wildstar is awful. The UI 2.) coming in next beta is much much better.
I only have 2 major problems with Wildstar. The questing is horribly boring. You do nothing meaningful while questing, just grinding experience to level up. Questing should be fun and immersing one into the story but that doesnt exist in Wildstar, sadly.
The second thing that is beyond acceptable to me is that you have an mmo with variety of progression, various classes, a decent amount of skills, BUT you are stuck with a single weapon type. THey should have taken some lessons from their sister company ANET on how to add different weapons to the same class and make them all feel different (they will make more money anyway according to subscription fanatics, dont they?) So why not work for that money and add real variety of gameplay.
I will agree with questing, but i don't care anymore about them much. I prefer having quality dungeons / raids / group quests / adventures etc in max lvl's tbh. But that's up to personal taste's
yupp, quality dungeons, etc is always good. But knowing myself i spend more time in open world PvE than doing instanced content, which is why i get disappointed when i have to do quests that are fillers (correction: when most quest are fillers). Being a bit realistic, questing covers almost 100% of a themepark mmo so i think they should have quality too.
I could accept that for box sale price and sub model, but no with EU servers placed on US and having locked Races for non Collectors Editions. That's disrespect imo and shows a huge greediness by ZOS
There is your mistake; thinking Carbine is any less "greedy" (AKA profit-driven) than ZOS. The difference between the two is what they think they can get their respective customer bases to support, as a practical matter, not some moral or ethical distinction.
Originally posted by Sir_Crowe
From my knowledge of Ncsoft they do respect their customers by knowing their limits with cash shops and the like with CoX and gw2 ( not fully sure with gw2 tho) they only really added fun things that really didn't have any affect on game-play if you didn't buy them , zenimax well that a whole other story that can be found in these forums lol .Trying to give Carbine a equal amount if not more negative's than zenimax ( esp in the games(eso) current state) is just ridiculous.
I'm talking about motive here, not actions. Trying to say that Carbine is motivated by "respect" for customers is laughable. If they thought they would make more money charging the same price as ESO and locking a race to a Collector's Edition, they would do so in a heartbeat. The only thing being indicated here is that they realize that a brand new company with a brand new IP and a small budget product can't "get away with" the same things that a company with a huge budget and an IP that goes back a quarter of a century can.
Bigger companies and IP's like WoW and SWTOR (before going f2p) never did that. Do you think that if WoD had a collectors edition with a new race ppl wont buy it? But not even Blizz have reached that level of greediness...
The UI in Wildstar is awful. The UI 2.) coming in next beta is much much better.
I only have 2 major problems with Wildstar. The questing is horribly boring. You do nothing meaningful while questing, just grinding experience to level up. Questing should be fun and immersing one into the story but that doesnt exist in Wildstar, sadly.
The second thing that is beyond acceptable to me is that you have an mmo with variety of progression, various classes, a decent amount of skills, BUT you are stuck with a single weapon type. THey should have taken some lessons from their sister company ANET on how to add different weapons to the same class and make them all feel different (they will make more money anyway according to subscription fanatics, dont they?) So why not work for that money and add real variety of gameplay.
I will agree with questing, but i don't care anymore about them much. I prefer having quality dungeons / raids / group quests / adventures etc in max lvl's tbh. But that's up to personal taste's
yupp, quality dungeons, etc is always good. But knowing myself i spend more time in open world PvE than doing instanced content, which is why i get disappointed when i have to do quests that are fillers (correction: when most quest are fillers). Being a bit realistic, questing covers almost 100% of a themepark mmo so i think they should have quality too.
Agree and i m not saying i don't want quality or anything that makes questing a better experience. I just say that if i was to choose between them, i ll be choosing the <other> stuff, but yes having quality in questing is always a plus.
Even when starting a character in Wow, you get that sense of an epic world. This was completely lacking in Wildstar for me.
That's funny... the antithesis is how I felt about WoW. I tried to play it a few times, and I was always bored to tears not too long after making my character. I think what always cinched it for me was running into two other people that looked like me 15 minutes into logging on... and the rock/paper/scissor combat was just not up for me. Wildstar, on the other hand, surprised me with how much I could customize the face of my avatar.
To the OP- glad you enjoyed it! I've been looking for a game like Wildstar for quite some time... never had an MMO I wanted to just throw myself at. See ya on Nexus!
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I could accept that for box sale price and sub model, but no with EU servers placed on US and having locked Races for non Collectors Editions. That's disrespect imo and shows a huge greediness by ZOS
There is your mistake; thinking Carbine is any less "greedy" (AKA profit-driven) than ZOS. The difference between the two is what they think they can get their respective customer bases to support, as a practical matter, not some moral or ethical distinction.
Originally posted by Sir_Crowe
From my knowledge of Ncsoft they do respect their customers by knowing their limits with cash shops and the like with CoX and gw2 ( not fully sure with gw2 tho) they only really added fun things that really didn't have any affect on game-play if you didn't buy them , zenimax well that a whole other story that can be found in these forums lol .Trying to give Carbine a equal amount if not more negative's than zenimax ( esp in the games(eso) current state) is just ridiculous.
I'm talking about motive here, not actions. Trying to say that Carbine is motivated by "respect" for customers is laughable. If they thought they would make more money charging the same price as ESO and locking a race to a Collector's Edition, they would do so in a heartbeat. The only thing being indicated here is that they realize that a brand new company with a brand new IP and a small budget product can't "get away with" the same things that a company with a huge budget and an IP that goes back a quarter of a century can.
But motives lead to actions
That's wasn't my meaning at all for my post,i don't think there is any gaming company out or coming out that is motivated by respect( tbh i don't blame them,the world runs on cash, not peoples feelings), you don't have to be motivated by respect but not having any at all for your customers is down right intolerable.
i wouldn't doubt that but ncsoft over the years haven't showed that side of them so far unlike,zenimax who is a new company already showing money grabing tendencies.
World feels alive and well designed. The world feels so dead to me...similar to SWTOR. Most of the NPCs are static, you cannot interact with them unless they have a quest or something to sell etc. The world does have character, but I am sick of the majority of the NPCs being static.
Love WildStar so much. Some friends and I PVP'ed all weekend and couldn't get enough, and it was only one map. The combat system feels refreshing, the graphics are fun and colorful, the music is great and the content seems abundant. I think this game has great staying potential, and that's coming from an MMO pessimist. I feel like they knew what kind of game they wanted to make and have done a great job in developing it. The next two months are all about optimization, polish, etc., so that type of stuff will be addressed. Anyways, long story short, really looking forward to release.
Originally posted by Satsunoryu Love WildStar so much. Some friends and I PVP'ed all weekend and couldn't get enough, and it was only one map. The combat system feels refreshing, the graphics are fun and colorful, the music is great and the content seems abundant. I think this game has great staying potential, and that's coming from an MMO pessimist. I feel like they knew what kind of game they wanted to make and have done a great job in developing it. The next two months are all about optimization, polish, etc., so that type of stuff will be addressed. Anyways, long story short, really looking forward to release.
Agree
I think a big factor for his longevity and the retaining of a healthy population of subscribers, will be the EvE's PLEX system it follows. I don't know anymore if i believe in p2p model, but as an EvE fan i love PLEX system.
So in the contrary to other p2p mmo's not having this option (at least at launch), i think it gives Wildstar a great chance to maintain a steady and healthy population, which is imo a big deal after so many failures of the p2p mmo's in the last couple of years.
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The UI in Wildstar is awful. The UI 2.) coming in next beta is much much better.
I only have 2 major problems with Wildstar. The questing is horribly boring. You do nothing meaningful while questing, just grinding experience to level up. Questing should be fun and immersing one into the story but that doesnt exist in Wildstar, sadly.
The second thing that is beyond acceptable to me is that you have an mmo with variety of progression, various classes, a decent amount of skills, BUT you are stuck with a single weapon type. THey should have taken some lessons from their sister company ANET on how to add different weapons to the same class and make them all feel different (they will make more money anyway according to subscription fanatics, dont they?) So why not work for that money and add real variety of gameplay.
From my knowledge of Ncsoft they do respect their customers by knowing their limits with cash shops and the like with CoX and gw2 ( not fully sure with gw2 tho) they only really added fun things that really didn't have any affect on game-play if you didn't buy them , zenimax well that a whole other story that can be found in these forums lol .Trying to give Carbine a equal amount if not more negative's than zenimax ( esp in the games(eso) current state) is just ridiculous.
I will agree with questing, but i don't care anymore about them much. I prefer having quality dungeons / raids / group quests / adventures etc in max lvl's tbh. But that's up to personal taste's
i have seen his comments as well and from the ones i saw he only posted that he didn't like the game and would comment on what he thought were the negatives , so stating that you don't want to try to ride a dead horse ( eso) or wanna help it back up is some how writing troll comments ? lol one could consider your comment to be on par of a trolls and prob your account so back to the cave please or back to your dead horse lol.
I'm talking about motive here, not actions. Trying to say that Carbine is motivated by "respect" for customers is laughable. If they thought they would make more money charging the same price as ESO and locking a race to a Collector's Edition, they would do so in a heartbeat. The only thing being indicated here is that they realize that a brand new company with a brand new IP and a small budget product can't "get away with" the same things that a company with a huge budget and an IP that goes back a quarter of a century can.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
yupp, quality dungeons, etc is always good. But knowing myself i spend more time in open world PvE than doing instanced content, which is why i get disappointed when i have to do quests that are fillers (correction: when most quest are fillers). Being a bit realistic, questing covers almost 100% of a themepark mmo so i think they should have quality too.
Bigger companies and IP's like WoW and SWTOR (before going f2p) never did that. Do you think that if WoD had a collectors edition with a new race ppl wont buy it? But not even Blizz have reached that level of greediness...
Agree and i m not saying i don't want quality or anything that makes questing a better experience. I just say that if i was to choose between them, i ll be choosing the <other> stuff, but yes having quality in questing is always a plus.
That's funny... the antithesis is how I felt about WoW. I tried to play it a few times, and I was always bored to tears not too long after making my character. I think what always cinched it for me was running into two other people that looked like me 15 minutes into logging on... and the rock/paper/scissor combat was just not up for me. Wildstar, on the other hand, surprised me with how much I could customize the face of my avatar.
To the OP- glad you enjoyed it! I've been looking for a game like Wildstar for quite some time... never had an MMO I wanted to just throw myself at. See ya on Nexus!
Loves: SMITE, WildStar, Project Zomboid, PSO2, DCUO,
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"Im ready for
All the comparisons
I think its dumb and its embarrassing
Im switching off
No longer listening
Ive had enough of persecution and conditioning
Maybe its instinct- Were only animal" - Lily Allen, Sheezus
But motives lead to actions
That's wasn't my meaning at all for my post,i don't think there is any gaming company out or coming out that is motivated by respect( tbh i don't blame them,the world runs on cash, not peoples feelings), you don't have to be motivated by respect but not having any at all for your customers is down right intolerable.
i wouldn't doubt that but ncsoft over the years haven't showed that side of them so far unlike,zenimax who is a new company already showing money grabing tendencies.
Agree
I think a big factor for his longevity and the retaining of a healthy population of subscribers, will be the EvE's PLEX system it follows. I don't know anymore if i believe in p2p model, but as an EvE fan i love PLEX system.
So in the contrary to other p2p mmo's not having this option (at least at launch), i think it gives Wildstar a great chance to maintain a steady and healthy population, which is imo a big deal after so many failures of the p2p mmo's in the last couple of years.
We will see