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is this worth it plz tell me what u think
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Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Why is it your job to discourage people? Are you some kind of self-appointed MMORPG God? If you're not going to point out the good with the bad, then why not just let someone make up his or her own mind. Or is this just a way to get your post count up?
I've played this game on and off since it launched. It has some nice things, it has some problems, but it's a very small company without the resources of of SOE or Blizzard. Yeah, they promised a lot. But so did WISH and several others that never saw the light of day.
Sorry, but game bashers are the worst bottom dwellers in this industry. Especially those that think that it's their job to go to every MMORPG forum they can find just to bash games that didnt' live up to their expectations. Just admit it's not your type of game and go away.
Why is it your job to discourage people? Are you some kind of self-appointed MMORPG God? If you're not going to point out the good with the bad, then why not just let someone make up his or her own mind. Or is this just a way to get your post count up?
I've played this game on and off since it launched. It has some nice things, it has some problems, but it's a very small company without the resources of of SOE or Blizzard. Yeah, they promised a lot. But so did WISH and several others that never saw the light of day.
Sorry, but game bashers are the worst bottom dwellers in this industry. Especially those that think that it's their job to go to every MMORPG forum they can find just to bash games that didnt' live up to their expectations. Just admit it's not your type of game and go away.
Just a person that likes to warn people what they are getting into. Problem is there are 99% of bad coding in HZ and like 1% of maybe good. The game was a big let down which is why they still have low pops. I also think everyone should be warned about the billing issues. I don't look at myself as a game basher, just a realist that wants to warn people. Like I tell people try the trial and msg mee if I lied or not. To this day I have a heck of a lot of thank you's for warning them. Very, very few msg's about how great the game is. So have a good day.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Nah, you're a troll with OCD who's on a personal vendetta against Horizons & the people who play and enjoy it. Telling people what aspects of the game you dislike or advising them of features & policies that may or may not have an impact on their enjoyment (for example, no PvP, limited usable dropped loot, dragons not flying till adulthood, or unlimited multiclassing for bipeds) is legitimate criticism a potential player needs to be aware of in order to make an informed decision. Unfortunatly, that's not what you do.
You fabricate or over-hype issues and then use your confabulations to attack the game, the designers, and the community. You've been proven wrong time and again, to the point where you have zero credability on forums like Vault Network & Rants Refugees.
I don't begruge you the right or the oppertunity to state your opinion of the game - if you can do it without making stuff up or resorting to slander tactics.
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
I obviously think it is - I'm paying three subscriptions and I've been playing since beta.
That doesn't mean you'll like it, by any means, since your post doesn't indicate what you look for in a game.
Horizons is great for casual gamers and people that play on a regular basis. It needs more content and more quests, but it's by no means devoid of them. There's no PvP and no plans to add it. Almost all items in the game are crafted by other players - you can buy it, get it as a gift from your guild (or a kind crafter) or learn to make it yourself. Dragons are great fun, but take a lot of work. Don't play one unless you're OK with delayed gratification.
The client has some issues, but it's constantly being worked on and is going to be totally rewritten - expect six months to a year for the new one. Customer service is awesome - both responsive and professional. The average age of the player community, according to a survey done a few months ago, is somewhere around 32 or 33; this means you almost never see questions in public chat channels answered with "STFU N00b!!!". You can buy land & build a house if you want, or you could pay someone else to do the building.
There is a quest design tool nearing completion; when it comes in, players will be able to design, write, and submit quests for review and possible implementation. One player-written quest is already live - I happen to be the author of it. There are quite a few other people who have ideas for quests and we're very excited about getting our hands on this tool and helping to shape the future of the game.
Don't take my word - or D0zer's - on any of it. Check out the 7-day trial for yourself. I know Horizons isn't for everyone - it's a niche game - but it has a lot going for it and a development team that is highly motivated to improve and expand the game.
Happy trails, wherever you go. :-)
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
I think I agree with KlausW ... I checked Vault Network and your vitriol is even more out of line there, although you do have some company in that department.
You assume facts not in evidence and then use them to bash the game, the designers, the game's owners and whatever else you can shake your stick at.
My only regret is that I didn't know this beforehand and fed the troll. I'll know better next time.
ROFL, I only tell it like the game really is. I'm only backed up by the low pops that play the game. Everything I have stated about the game is true. If it wasn't there would even be more people playign it. But after so many have quit the game and once they find out the engine is made for consoles I think it only puts forth how right I am. You guys have a great day now.
Also no one has made up the billing issues, that has held true from day one of release.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Yeah, you're a legend in your own mind....
By the way, the new support staff bent over backwards to fix a billing issue I had a couple of months ago. Maybe you should update your information. It's only a year or more out of date. Maybe you should change your handle to "Clueless."
Oh, Gawd. I fed the troll again....
Yeah, you're a legend in your own mind....
By the way, the new support staff bent over backwards to fix a billing issue I had a couple of months ago. Maybe you should update your information. It's only a year or more out of date. Maybe you should change your handle to "Clueless."
Oh, Gawd. I fed the troll again....
Yep you sure did. I'm glad they bent over backwards for you. But really from day 1 with this game and two different billing companies and they still have the same problems with billing. Maybe they should bend over backwards and stop ripping people off.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
I've got to stop arguing with 5 year olds.
How about just accepting the truth about the game.
You have a great day now.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
It might be news to you that every company in the world will, at some time or another, have some type of billing issue. Horizons is no different. Accusing them of ripping people off, however, is an accusation of deliberate and willfull fraud. I've had only one billing issue, and it was my fault - I didn't renew my credit card information. The other people I know of who have had billing issues got them corrected immediatly.
As usual, you are hyping a non-issue and distorting it beyond recognition in order to use it to support a fabricated accusation that borders on slander. Fortunatly, most readers are intelligent enough to recognize a troll with a vendetta when they see one.
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
It might be news to you that every company in the world will, at some time or another, have some type of billing issue. Horizons is no different. Accusing them of ripping people off, however, is an accusation of deliberate and willfull fraud. I've had only one billing issue, and it was my fault - I didn't renew my credit card information. The other people I know of who have had billing issues got them corrected immediatly.
As usual, you are hyping a non-issue and distorting it beyond recognition in order to use it to support a fabricated accusation that borders on slander. Fortunatly, most readers are intelligent enough to recognize a troll with a vendetta when they see one.
A non-issue? you must be kidding. This has been going on right from the start. Not only with one billing company but now two. So you can't say it's the billing company it is clearly TulgAE that is doing it and after this long still can't get it fixed. I mean really I haven't known any other company that has had this happen with so many people. Plus I have played a heck of a lot of games from the UO beta to now. So please show me where another major game has had the same type issues with billing like TulgAE has.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
I'm not the one claiming TG has "billing problems", you are. The burden of proof is yours. You've never defined what these "billing problems" ARE, what the scope of the issue is, how many people have been impacted, or what the resolution of any cases you cite has been. All you are doing is pointing and screaming accusations.
My contention is this: whatever billing problem someone may have had with Horizons, I am absolutely sure that at least one person has had the same issue with any MMORPG you care to name. Billing errors happen. That's what Customer Service is for.
Of course, you wouldn't know about Tulga's excellent customer service team or the quality & speed of their responses, because you haven't PLAYED Horizons in over a year!
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
Maybe if we stop feeding the troll he will die of starvation?
I'm not the one claiming TG has "billing problems", you are. The burden of proof is yours. You've never defined what these "billing problems" ARE, what the scope of the issue is, how many people have been impacted, or what the resolution of any cases you cite has been. All you are doing is pointing and screaming accusations.
My contention is this: whatever billing problem someone may have had with Horizons, I am absolutely sure that at least one person has had the same issue with any MMORPG you care to name. Billing errors happen. That's what Customer Service is for.
Of course, you wouldn't know about Tulga's excellent customer service team or the quality & speed of their responses, because you haven't PLAYED Horizons in over a year!
Too bad Tazoon is gone, they had a bunch of posts about it. Then you have VN which has a lot of posts about it. Heck there were posts on the community site but you needed to catch them fast before they deleted them. You can deny it all you want Klaus but the thing is there are a bunch of people out there that knows all about it. Also I disagree no other game has used porn billing sites like TulgAE has, at least not the big boys out there. In fact I don't think any other one has that I can remember.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Posted on VN boards,
If you look at the official boards btw there was a sticky note about that 1 free month and how some players were billed for it if their credit card was still active.. Not sure if it's still a sticky.
Just worth noting that a year and a half after release and 2 billing companies later Horizons is still somehow managing to double bill people every time they offer something "free"...
Wailer
http://vnboards.ign.com/Horizons_General_Board/b5252/86786317/p2/?59
So you see it is clearly still going on.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
You're right, Grimlik has a billing issue, and it's still being worked.
That's not an epidemic or proof of an evil plan to defraud people. It's a customer with a billing issue, and every game, every company, and every government in the world has them. Yes, TG & iPay should get it resolved last week and apologize for the inconvenience. It's still one customer, not a pervasive pattern of behavior.
The billing issues mentioned on the community site were - in almost all cases - caused by the players themselves, by not renewing expired credit card information. It's worth noting that TG made no attempt to collect unpaid subscription fees once a player's billing info was updated. If they were out to rip people off, as you claim, they would certainly have done that, as those fees are legitimatly owed to them for time played.
You keep ignoring the facts and waving your bogus accusations around as though repeating them loudly and often will give them a basis in fact. Just because you *personally* feel ripped off because you paid $40.00 for a game you hated doesn't mean that the game or the publisher *is* ripping people off - it means you didn't like the game.
It's pointless to argue with you; you're a troll with a personal vendetta and facts are meaningless. Your only interest is slamming the game and harassing the fans. Unfortunatly, the mods here don't seem to give a rat's ass about you spewing crap on their forums. It's their right not to care, but it's their reputation that is tarnished by it.
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
Funny how you keep saying I don't post the facts when actually this has been an on going issue from day one. Granted it doesn't go on as much as it did but that is only because of the very few left playing the game. I also need to state that once again, the VERY FEW.
You have a good day now. I will go wait for TulgAE to hit that Chapter 11 court again. You know it will happen Baker just isn't that stupid to keep funding money down a dry well.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Why is it your job to discourage people? Are you some kind of self-appointed MMORPG God? If you're not going to point out the good with the bad, then why not just let someone make up his or her own mind. Or is this just a way to get your post count up?
I've played this game on and off since it launched. It has some nice things, it has some problems, but it's a very small company without the resources of of SOE or Blizzard. Yeah, they promised a lot. But so did WISH and several others that never saw the light of day.
Sorry, but game bashers are the worst bottom dwellers in this industry. Especially those that think that it's their job to go to every MMORPG forum they can find just to bash games that didnt' live up to their expectations. Just admit it's not your type of game and go away.
Amen my friend Amen!!!
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There's your quiz , any steps you take from here are all YOUR choice........
I've got to stop arguing with 5 year olds.
He's actually 50. Pretty sad. Look at every post on this forum. Capped off with DOZeR at the end. Yup he's a sick puppy.