Think I Caught a Break by Canceling my PreOrder

BetaBlocka

Apologies for going OT but I am in the WS beta and I can tell you anyone who says there is nothing to do, for casuals or for hardcore grinders is flat out lying.

 

Yes, the questing is very generic but it is still fun and in terms of things to do, there is borderline TOO much to do, if that can ever be considered a problem lol....

Rusque

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

Originally posted by Rusque

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

Originally posted by Rusque

Originally posted by Distopia
Really all you had to say was, "I prefer wildstar I'm glad I'm going with it" What you should expect though is just as many bad posts about it....

Yeah but that wasn't the OP's intent. Otherwise what purpose would he have to come to the ESO forums to post this topic?

He can prefer Wildstar all he wants, and that's fine. But it's very difficult to troll if you don't antagonize others for no reason. Really what is the purpose of this thread? To let people know that he cancelled? He doesn't care if people knows that he cancelled, and I'm pretty sure none of us care that he did either. He just came over to instigate some flames for lulz. Great success.

Its funny that OP even said 'not that its a bad game'.. but ofcourse no one is going to pay attention to that.

As if prefering one game over another and wanting to discuss with others is a crime.

I am sorry to say but OP by far was the most civil in terms of expressing himself. Can't say the same about the fans.

I used to think GW2 community was bad but ESO community on these forums is by far the most toxic.

So if you qualify something with "not that its a bad game" you're absolved?

I guess I should just go to the Wildstar forums and say, "Not that it's a bad game, but I'm not going to buy it. I think it's just going to be a niche game and doubt it will have any solid playerbase - just my opinion."

 

Wow!! hahaha. 

You people have started to sound like a cult now. Just imagine if he had actually said 'ESO sucks' or 'ESO is very bad game'.

By the way he said 'not that it is a bad game' which is different from 'not that bad'.

So you think it's funny that people don't mention that the OP said "not that its a bad game" but you apparently want to ignore my entire post to play semantics. Clearly I did not use the word "absolved" in a religious context, no need to be obtuse.

 

And as I've said before, I'm perfectly fine with people who don't like the game. I have no personal need for other people to like the things I like. However, when you don't provide topic of discussion, what exactly is the purpose of the thread?

nbtscan

Originally posted by Krimzin

Honestly I think TESO is going to end up being a Niche Game for those who are into the Elder Scrolls IP. I doubt it will have any solid player base past the first couple months.

 

I think any game with an established IP will eventually end up that way.  WoW was an anomaly.  Every other game that was created from scratch without any lore or canon to draw from other games either does very poorly or very well.

Aroukos

Guys stop this fight and show some patience. Anyway in a few months 90% of both camps here, will unite and bash ArcheAge & WoD together, like brothers 

Bigdaddyx

Originally posted by Rusque

 

So you think it's funny that people don't mention that the OP said "not that its a bad game" but you apparently want to ignore my entire post to play semantics. Clearly I did not use the word "absolved" in a religious context, no need to be obtuse.

 

And as I've said before, I'm perfectly fine with people who don't like the game. I have no personal need for other people to like the things I like. However, when you don't provide topic of discussion, what exactly is the purpose of the thread?

The 'cult' part was obviously a joke. 

However, are there some paramteres or conditions that need to be set on every gaming forum? maybe that will warn the posters before they make a topic on the forums. For example start the negative topic with something like 'i mildly enjoyed the MMO but..' because him saying that the reason why he decided not to play ESO is not because its a bad game but all the issues plaguing it since launch was clearly not enough.

As far as what is the purpose of this thread.... to discuss and share your opinion with fellow gamers. Isn't that what these forums are for? i mean he was perfectly civil..so why not?

You saying that 'so should he be absolved' makes it sound as if he commited a grave sin and shouldn't be let go so easily. To be honest with you it sounds a bit crazy.

Distopia

Originally posted by Krimzin

LOL I am at a loss.

I never said it was a bad game. I said there are so many threads about people having issues, that I might have dodged a bullet.

I get that everyone who plays a game loves it and everything else is trash. A little close minded, but I get it.
 

Well I wouldn't say everyone who plays a game loves it, it's more a matter that many here like to look for a fight (myself included) we'll stop at whatever point in your post that supplies the ammunition.

The "going by the posts" point served all the ammunition anyone needed. As a comparison if I went by forum posts to say what kind of game wildstar is it would be nothing but a WOW clone, with no original ideas, faceroll combat, and it's made for kids. I'm smart enough to realize most of that is exaggeration, sensationalism and pot stirring.

Essentially when posting here review your post and find the weaker arguments presented, then remove them. Hence cutting away most ammunition that's going to be turned against you.

fivoroth

And what's the point of your thread? To tell us that you cancelled your pre-order?

I have never played Wildstar but by looking at the game I don't think I will buy that. It looks like crayon vomit to me. 

Zalmon

Originally posted by fivoroth

And what's the point of your thread? To tell us that you cancelled your pre-order?

I have never played Wildstar but by looking at the game I don't think I will buy that. It looks like crayon vomit to me. 

Why you people keep asking him the purpose of his thread?

Whats the purpose behind any of the topics on these forums? i mean OP didn't even say ESO is bad or he hates it and yet he is getting such agressive replies. And to make it even more comical everyone is calling him a troll. I mean come on look at your own reply for a second.. and then think.

Distopia

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

Originally posted by Rusque

 

So you think it's funny that people don't mention that the OP said "not that its a bad game" but you apparently want to ignore my entire post to play semantics. Clearly I did not use the word "absolved" in a religious context, no need to be obtuse.

 

And as I've said before, I'm perfectly fine with people who don't like the game. I have no personal need for other people to like the things I like. However, when you don't provide topic of discussion, what exactly is the purpose of the thread?

The 'cult' part was obviously a joke. 

However, are there some paramteres or conditions that need to be set on every gaming forum? maybe that will warn the posters before they make a topic on the forums. For example start the negative topic with something like 'i mildly enjoyed the MMO but..' because him saying that the reason why he decided not to play ESO is not because its a bad game but all the issues plaguing it since launch was clearly not enough.

As far as what is the purpose of this thread.... to discuss and share your opinion with fellow gamers. Isn't that what these forums are for? i mean he was perfectly civil..so why not?

You saying that 'so should he be absolved' makes it sound as if he commited a grave sin and shouldn't be let go so easily. To be honest with you it sounds a bit crazy.

The problem is if you don't coat your post in some kind of hyperbole, sensationalism etc.. it will be a 1-5 post thread and buried within minutes. It's the conundrum of MMORPG.com if it's not some what over the top, it gets no attention.

Bladorthin

Originally posted by Krimzin

I have had TESO on PreOrder since the day the opened they Option. I was hyped to play it.

In retrospect, I think I was hyped for the wrong reasons.

I think I was excited for ESO because there was really nothing else out there to play.
My last major game was FFXIV and it flopped horribly.

Just about the time of the PreOrder, I started playing ArcheAge on the Russian servers. AA is truly a great game and I think its going to do well when it hits NA.
Its funny how just having something to play made me second guess TESO. Then the week before Early Access, I got a Beta Invite to Wildstar. Sure, Ill give it a try. Had more fun in Wildstar than any of the times I had in TESO.

That kinda sealed the deal for me. With 2 other games on the Horizon, I didn't need to get TESO. So i Canceled my PreOrder.

Now a week or so later, Im so very happy that I did.
I don't think TESO is a bad game, but there are soooo many bad posts about it. From bugs, to phase system to poor auction system to Bethesda charging you an extra month if you cancel.. All these things make me glad I canceled before Launch. The list grows every day.

Honestly I think TESO is going to end up being a Niche Game for those who are into the Elder Scrolls IP. I doubt it will have any solid player base past the first couple months.

Obviously this is just my opinion.

Okie Dokie then...

 

Rusque

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

Originally posted by Rusque

 

So you think it's funny that people don't mention that the OP said "not that its a bad game" but you apparently want to ignore my entire post to play semantics. Clearly I did not use the word "absolved" in a religious context, no need to be obtuse.

 

And as I've said before, I'm perfectly fine with people who don't like the game. I have no personal need for other people to like the things I like. However, when you don't provide topic of discussion, what exactly is the purpose of the thread?

The 'cult' part was obviously a joke. 

However, are there some paramteres or conditions that need to be set on every gaming forum? maybe that will warn the posters before they make a topic on the forums. For example start the negative topic with something like 'i mildly enjoyed the MMO but..' because him saying that the reason why he decided not to play ESO is not because its a bad game but all the issues plaguing it since launch was clearly not enough.

As far as what is the purpose of this thread.... to discuss and share your opinion with fellow gamers. Isn't that what these forums are for? i mean he was perfectly civil..so why not?

You saying that 'so should he be absolved' makes it sound as if he commited a grave sin and shouldn't be let go so easily. To be honest with you it sounds a bit crazy.

Yes there are rules to forums. They are not facebook status updates to let people know that you just made some toast.

From the rules of conduct of mmorpg.com:

• Game Attacks
  • Unsubstantiated comments about specific or general games will be penalized in nearly the same way attacks against people will. The exception is that you can say mean things about games provided you back it up with reasons.
    Example: "Game X sucks." is not a legitimate comment. "Game X sucks, because..." is acceptable.
• Trolling
  • Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
    For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated.

So he's well within his rights to say " I don't think ESO will have a solid playerbase . . . because _____"

 

But the OP doesn't do that, he just states he's glad he didn't buy it and that he thinks it won't do well, he doesn't get points for not being offensive. So it's a game attack according to the rules.

 

If you don't see it as a game attack for whatever reason, it's trolling as his post has no merit to it other than to bait others to respond negatively.

 

Only reason I'm even in this thread is because ESO has been getting non-stop hate since beta and much of it is just trolling. If people want to have discussions, great! That's why I'm here too.

 

Me and you are having more of a discussion (an off-topic one at that) than the OP, at least we're conversing.

Cougan

On a side note keep an eye out for new accounts trolling ESO forum and praising Wildstar. I've seen at least a dozen of them over last three weeks and I cant imagine why an individual would go so far. Sorry for the conspiracy theory but it looks more like a shady business practice. They usually bullet point every negative thread they can find.

 

Not the OP or anyone else just new accounts. Thats why you cant always believe everything you read.

Nivisiru

Funny I'm on the other side of that coin.  I played the beta and didn't like it. I still got the game because of my friends. Now after getting past the slow start and getting into the to deep options of skills and abilities. I'm now super immersed. I've not had this much fun in a MMO in a very very long time. Ohh and I feel combat just feels a lot better then it first did in beta, not sure if they changed something or what but just feels good now and the game looks great.

Kicksave321

Originally posted by Cougan

On a side note keep an eye out for new accounts trolling ESO forum and praising Wildstar. I've seen at least a dozen of them over last three weeks and I cant imagine why an individual would go so far. Sorry for the conspiracy theory but it looks more like a shady business practice. They usually bullet point every negative thread they can find.

 

Not the OP or anyone else just new accounts. Thats why you cant always believe everything you read.

I think this why the OP is getting the response he is.  He did this exact thing except used his main account.  Almost all of his bullet points have been proven false, inaccurate, misleading or fixed.  But he didn't take the time to research each thread he was basing is assumptions off of.  

Cougan

Originally posted by Kicksave321

Originally posted by Cougan

On a side note keep an eye out for new accounts trolling ESO forum and praising Wildstar. I've seen at least a dozen of them over last three weeks and I cant imagine why an individual would go so far. Sorry for the conspiracy theory but it looks more like a shady business practice. They usually bullet point every negative thread they can find.

 

Not the OP or anyone else just new accounts. Thats why you cant always believe everything you read.

I think this why the OP is getting the response he is.  He did this exact thing except used his main account.  Almost all of his bullet points have been proven false, inaccurate, misleading or fixed.  But he didn't take the time to research each thread he was basing is assumptions off of.  

Not really what I meant. OP is actually pretty reasonable and you can have more fun playing a different game although I'd never bother starting a thread about it. Unless he was posting this 50 times I wouldnt consider that trolling.

 

I love ESO as much as any fan I guess but there are a ton of quest bugs and other small issues. The no auction house might suck for some people but I love its possibilities so it goes down to the person. Hell I think the same niche thing about Wildstar but was refraining from saying it for risk of flames. Damnit.