Nightblade attributes.. Lost please help

Thodra

I decided to give up my Dragonknight and go with Nightblade instead, more fun :-)
But I'm a bit confused when it comes to adding attributes on a Nightblade.
My skills need magicka, so I should put some there. I need more health course I'm in melee range and need to survive all the beating I'm taking. But some of my skills use stamina so I should put some there too...

My playstyle will be like this:

Won't be using stealth much
Want to give out a lot of damage and I do :-)
Hit fast
Using dual wield swords
I'm guessing my primary armor set will be medium

Hope someone can help me with the attributes

Thanks in advance

MikeJezZ

Well what I do is putting points in what I need. My spec is heavy magicka needed, run out so fast, so Im kinda maxing out magicka atm.

 

Fill out what you think you need. While you level, do you lack stamina or magicka? Choose the one you lack the most.

Thodra

But stamina also improves the damage on your weapons right? If so, is that important?

MikeJezZ

Well I have 4 points in stamina, 9 in magicka and the rest in HP.. I'm not having any issues atm

Dranean

Originally posted by Thodra
But stamina also improves the damage on your weapons right? If so, is that important?

For class skills Magica is required while Stamina can be used for dodging. Stamina can also be used in the same way like Magica is being used when wielding melee weapons.

 

Magica = Class skills + Magical skills

Stamina = Dodging, running, melee weapons.

MikeJezZ

Originally posted by Dranean

Originally posted by Thodra
But stamina also improves the damage on your weapons right? If so, is that important?

For class skills Magica is required while Stamina can be used for dodging. Stamina can also be used in the same way like Magica is being used when wielding melee weapons.

 

Magica = Class skills + Magical skills

Stamina = Dodging, running, melee weapons.

Is it bad only having magicka abilities on your spell bar? Because... I use only my own class's spells... And they are all magicka...

 

I am running:

 

1.  Shadow Cloak

2. Assasin's Blade

3. Strife

4. Teleport Strike

5. Veiled Strike.

 

Is it bad only running magicka spells? Because I really like this build...

Thodra

Originally posted by Dranean

Originally posted by Thodra
But stamina also improves the damage on your weapons right? If so, is that important?

For class skills Magica is required while Stamina can be used for dodging. Stamina can also be used in the same way like Magica is being used when wielding melee weapons.

 

Magica = Class skills + Magical skills

Stamina = Dodging, running, melee weapons.

 

You write melee weapons.. So it's not that important to stack up stamina for melee weapon damage?

bobfish

Magika/Stamina contribution to damage is actually quite small, the main reason to put points into them is to allow you to use more skills, more often.

 

I'd suggest focusing on one and getting gear with the other on it. It is quite easy to hit the soft caps on them that way.

 

I haven't played a Nightblade since beta, but I think I was running four magika skills and one stamina skill on my action bar, so my points were spent in Magika and my gear had a bit of Stamina on it.

psiic

Stamina/stamina regen gear is imperative.

delete5230

Thanks OP for asking this question,

It sounds like your running mostly the same build as me and was trying to understand this myself.

Dranean

Originally posted by MikeJezZ

Originally posted by Dranean

Originally posted by Thodra
But stamina also improves the damage on your weapons right? If so, is that important?

For class skills Magica is required while Stamina can be used for dodging. Stamina can also be used in the same way like Magica is being used when wielding melee weapons.

 

Magica = Class skills + Magical skills

Stamina = Dodging, running, melee weapons.

Is it bad only having magicka abilities on your spell bar? Because... I use only my own class's spells... And they are all magicka...

 

I am running:

 

1.  Shadow Cloak

2. Assasin's Blade

3. Strife

4. Teleport Strike

5. Veiled Strike.

 

Is it bad only running magicka spells? Because I really like this build...

No, its not bad to use magica spells, It just allows you to use your stamina for evasive rolls and running around.

 

With my Nightblade I try to balance it a bit which allows me to continue being effective when I don't have magica or stamina. I use a couple of skills that require magica and skills that require stamina. When I run out of magica I use stamina based skills and the other way around.

bobfish

Worth noting as well that block/dodge uses a percentage of your stamina, so your total amount of stamina is irrelevant, what matters is how quickly you regenerate it.

 

If you're not using any weapon skills, focus on stamina regen and max magika on gear. Though to be fair, in my experience you only really need the stamina regen for Group Dungeons to dodge with, in normal PvE, you barely need to dodge or block anything, so keep some magika regen items to swap in and out as needed.

Thodra

What about the health?
I don't use stamina that much when I think about it. Most of my skills use magicka only one use stamina. I was confused about stamina, course I thought it was important for melee classes to stack stamina for more melee damage.

Most of my skill use magicka.
Only one skill (so far) use stamina.
I'm in melee range.

Am I right I should stack my attributes like this?
Most in magicka and health and some in stamina

Scot

If you only have one melee stamina attack (from your weapons), that's all you need. It allows you to pump out attacks after your magic pool has gone. You do not necessarily need to put up your stamina pool to do this. Try it out and see how it goes.

bobfish

Originally posted by Thodra
What about the health? I don't use stamina that much when I think about it. Most of my skills use magicka only one use stamina. I was confused about stamina, course I thought it was important for melee classes to stack stamina for more melee damage. Most of my skill use magicka. Only one skill (so far) use stamina. I'm in melee range. Am I right I should stack my attributes like this? Most in magicka and health and some in stamina

I'd recommend first 12 pts in Magika, then for every 3 pts there after, two to health, one to Magika. Stack Max Magika on five pieces of armor, Max Stamina on two pieces of armor. One Reduce Magika cost piece of jewelry, one Magika Regen and one Stamina Regen. You can vary your point spend as you go based on what you need, ideally you should be keeping your main stats near the soft cap whilst en route to 50, overcharging them is a waste.

 

If you feel a little squishy, then swap out a couple of pieces of armor for Max Health pieces instead. Should probably be five pieces of Medium Armor and two pieces of Light Armor. Taking the passives from those trees to help with things. If you're mainly planning to be DPS, then I wouldn't bother near Heavy Armor unless everything is killing you a lot, but the Nightblade's siphon makes them quite resilient.