How do I level at a apropiate speed? I have used 58 hours into ESO and I am only level 21 ½. I know it is not a rush but I want to be competitive in AvA
Originally posted by MikeJezZ How do I level at a apropiate speed? I have used 58 hours into ESO and I am only level 21 ½. I know it is not a rush but I want to be competitive in AvA
Ahem *old man voice* back in my day! We would grind for a week straight for one level! We didn't have these fancy pants quest hubs and frilly rewards around every corner. We had rusty weapons and cloth armor and we liked it!
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Originally posted by kaiser3282 You don't need to be maxed out to be competitive in AvA at all. Especially if you're rolling with a group of people.
Well, I have met several Veteran Rank players that actually just one shots me. I know I need to be in a group of people, but I still get one shotted if anyone decides to attack me. And I deal little to no damage vs them.
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by MikeJezZ How do I level at a apropiate speed? I have used 58 hours into ESO and I am only level 21 ½. I know it is not a rush but I want to be competitive in AvA
Ahem *old man voice* back in my day! We would grind for a week straight for one level! We didn't have these fancy pants quest hubs and frilly rewards around every corner. We had rusty weapons and cloth armor and we liked it!
I am aware of that, I have played DAoC and all the others. I just hear about so many hitting 50 and Veteran ranks already.
Originally posted by kaiser3282 You don't need to be maxed out to be competitive in AvA at all. Especially if you're rolling with a group of people.
Well, I have met several Veteran Rank players that actually just one shots me. I know I need to be in a group of people, but I still get one shotted if anyone decides to attack me. And I deal little to no damage vs them.
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by MikeJezZ How do I level at a apropiate speed? I have used 58 hours into ESO and I am only level 21 ½. I know it is not a rush but I want to be competitive in AvA
Ahem *old man voice* back in my day! We would grind for a week straight for one level! We didn't have these fancy pants quest hubs and frilly rewards around every corner. We had rusty weapons and cloth armor and we liked it!
I am aware of that, I have played DAoC and all the others. I just hear about so many hitting 50 and Veteran ranks already.
Well that is very dissapointing to hear! But not suprising I Guess.
Guess I´ll avoid AvA for a long while then till I am 50 myself.
The levelling is kind of boring and solo-oriented, but once you get to lvl 50, you access the multi-player content and it gets pretty cool: veteran dungeons and RvR are fun
Originally posted by MikeJezZ How do I level at a apropiate speed? I have used 58 hours into ESO and I am only level 21 ½. I know it is not a rush but I want to be competitive in AvA
Ahem *old man voice* back in my day! We would grind for a week straight for one level! We didn't have these fancy pants quest hubs and frilly rewards around every corner. We had rusty weapons and cloth armor and we liked it!
It doesnt matter if its old guy or young dude. The point is, if you want only measure dick with other, go play CS. The MMORPGs should be about journey and living in virtual world. You should earn things in that worlds. Thats/was (beffore you ppl did screw it up) the point of it. I didnt pay 70 for one week of rush gameplay and then what? Just fucking boring pvp? The pvp should be just something aside, not main content and doesnt matter what you YOUNG and COOL think. There is still more PvE players, PvP guys are just to loud, so it looks like there is more of them.
All the big companies are listening to you cool young or rush pvp ppl and all we have are shitty game, one same like other.
Originally posted by Magiknight I would rather die than play another MMO where you rush to end game.
You can rush any game to end game, ESO included. Lets not forget that the first guy to hit 50 on ESO did it in 17 hours.
The OP is not feeling viable in PvP even with the pre-50 boost, which is another issue. Well, I guess having only one PvP zone in the whole game is both a blessing and a curse. That boost may not be strong enough, but in any other open world PvP game, your lower level would have to deal with higher levels without having any kind of boost.
I've been killing Veteran Rank players in AvA since level 30. 1v1. Often they'd even have friends, where I was able to kill the one and get out of there before his buddies could pin me down.
You don't need to be 50 to be competitive in AvA.
If you've taken 58 hours to get to level 21, you're doing something really wrong or really right, depending on how you look at it. First off, I have less time that that spent on my level 47 character. In fact, I have less time than that on all my characters put together, and it took me about 6-7 hours (maybe less) to get my last alt to 17. I didn't read any quest text with him, since he's on the same alliance as my main. This was done entirely solo (all my characters are leveled solo, only occasionally grouping with random people found when someone invites me to finish a dungeon.)
So my guess is that you're either A. Reading everything, or B. Dying a lot. If it's the first, then clearly you're not out to rush to 50, but instead are looking to enjoy the game. That's fine. In fact, that's a good thing. I've done that on my main because I want to be immersed in the story. If, however, you're out to rush to 50, then you're doing it wrong.
On the other hand, if you're dying... Well, I'm not sure what advice to give. Either your mechanics are rusty, or you're building terribly. If you're leveling up, alone, you should have a high damage build. Don't go tank and throw all your points into health, and don't go healer. Not if you're running alone. Damage is the only way you'll ever finish quests / kill things at a reasonable rate. Trust me on this, I respecced 4 times while trying builds, thinking I could do my 'fun' DoT life-leech builds or my blur-evasion super tank build. Yeah, I lost probably 6 hours to a single level before I determined that that would have to wait until 50 where 90% of the future leveling would be done in a group.
Last point: Pretty much all of the people who hit VR1 before early access ended grinded their way to 50. If you think doing something like that will satisfy you, that is another option for quick leveling. I wouldn't be so hasty though. AvA isn't going anywhere, and killing the same mobs over and over for 25 hours straight does strange things to your head. I don't suggest doing it.
Originally posted by kaiser3282 You don't need to be maxed out to be competitive in AvA at all. Especially if you're rolling with a group of people.
Well, I have met several Veteran Rank players that actually just one shots me. I know I need to be in a group of people, but I still get one shotted if anyone decides to attack me. And I deal little to no damage vs them.
I've met a level 22 who one shotted me when I was level 45 so yeh
Originally posted by Magiknight I would rather die than play another MMO where you rush to end game.
You can rush any game to end game, ESO included. Lets not forget that the first guy to hit 50 on ESO did it in 17 hours.
The OP is not feeling viable in PvP even with the pre-50 boost, which is another issue. Well, I guess having only one PvP zone in the whole game is both a blessing and a curse. That boost may not be strong enough, but in any other open world PvP game, your lower level would have to deal with higher levels without having any kind of boost.
Well I really like the fact that I am not viable against a level 50 - there SHOULD be difference between a level 50 and a upscaled 50.
My problem is that I enjoy PvP more than PvE (That is not ESO's fault, I have always been a PvP player), and it just takes ages to be competitive.
If you really want to reach level50 as auickly as possible, you can do AoE grind. To do this you must be a class that is capable of continuously AoEing several monsters. On Tamriel Foundry forums are topics on AoE powerleveling including maps that show the best spots.
Please keep in mind that your level is only one component that defines the strength of your character. Questing through the zones gives you many additional skillpoints via skyshards and certain quest lines that you do not want to miss.
Originally posted by Magiknight I would rather die than play another MMO where you rush to end game.
You can rush any game to end game, ESO included. Lets not forget that the first guy to hit 50 on ESO did it in 17 hours.
The OP is not feeling viable in PvP even with the pre-50 boost, which is another issue. Well, I guess having only one PvP zone in the whole game is both a blessing and a curse. That boost may not be strong enough, but in any other open world PvP game, your lower level would have to deal with higher levels without having any kind of boost.
No one rushed to end game in old scool EQ or FFXI.
If you really want to reach level50 as auickly as possible, you can do AoE grind. To do this you must be a class that is capable of continuously AoEing several monsters. On Tamriel Foundry forums are topics on AoE powerleveling including maps that show the best spots.
Please keep in mind that your level is only one component that defines the strength of your character. Questing through the zones gives you many additional skillpoints via skyshards and certain quest lines that you do not want to miss.
I'm aware of that. But you also have weapons that yields more damage and gear with better armor and stats.
If you really want to reach level50 as auickly as possible, you can do AoE grind. To do this you must be a class that is capable of continuously AoEing several monsters. On Tamriel Foundry forums are topics on AoE powerleveling including maps that show the best spots.
Please keep in mind that your level is only one component that defines the strength of your character. Questing through the zones gives you many additional skillpoints via skyshards and certain quest lines that you do not want to miss.
I'm aware of that. But you also have weapons that yields more damage and gear with better armor and stats.
It really makes little difference. Ive gone up against people of all levels, only level 25 myself, and a 50 doesnt put up a whole lot more of a fight than anyone else. The key thing is going to be your build and your own personal skills, not gear / levels.
Granted some classes / builds can become much more powerful when at higher levels than lower levels due to having access to skills that were not available before, as well as some more passives, but as I mentioned that will depend on build. My particular build on my main basically has all of the main skills I plan on using already by level 25, with the exception of 1 which I am still unsure if I will even use much. The only thing I really have to look forward to now is getting some more bonuses from passives. Other types of builds may be lacking in useful skills for their type at lower levels and pick up some things that really make them shine at higher levels.
Also keep in mind that one factor in improving your gear later on will be running with crafted sets that gives bonuses that suit your build. Higher levels may be making more use of these at this point, however you can always get those same sets / bonuses put on low level gear as well giving you that same advantage. Just need to make friends with a crafter who has enough traits unlocked and access to those crafting stations.
Originally posted by MikeJezZ How do I level at a apropiate speed? I have used 58 hours into ESO and I am only level 21 ½. I know it is not a rush but I want to be competitive in AvA
You are levelling at a apropriate speed. This game has a slow levelling, compared to other MMOs such as WOW (non-vanilla), GW2, FF14, lotro (non-vanilla) and such.
If you really want to reach level50 as auickly as possible, you can do AoE grind. To do this you must be a class that is capable of continuously AoEing several monsters. On Tamriel Foundry forums are topics on AoE powerleveling including maps that show the best spots.
Please keep in mind that your level is only one component that defines the strength of your character. Questing through the zones gives you many additional skillpoints via skyshards and certain quest lines that you do not want to miss.
I'm aware of that. But you also have weapons that yields more damage and gear with better armor and stats.
It really makes little difference. Ive gone up against people of all levels, only level 25 myself, and a 50 doesnt put up a whole lot more of a fight than anyone else. The key thing is going to be your build and your own personal skills, not gear / levels.
Granted some classes / builds can become much more powerful when at higher levels than lower levels due to having access to skills that were not available before, as well as some more passives, but as I mentioned that will depend on build. My particular build on my main basically has all of the main skills I plan on using already by level 25, with the exception of 1 which I am still unsure if I will even use much. The only thing I really have to look forward to now is getting some more bonuses from passives. Other types of builds may be lacking in useful skills for their type at lower levels and pick up some things that really make them shine at higher levels.
Also keep in mind that one factor in improving your gear later on will be running with crafted sets that gives bonuses that suit your build. Higher levels may be making more use of these at this point, however you can always get those same sets / bonuses put on low level gear as well giving you that same advantage. Just need to make friends with a crafter who has enough traits unlocked and access to those crafting stations.
So you are saying gear mattter as little as in Guild Wars 2?
In GW2 upscaled characters don't get one shotted in this game they do, the only way to level now is to quest that is it any other way and it will take days to gain 1 level i really think this needs to be changed.
Originally posted by Magiknight I would rather die than play another MMO where you rush to end game.
You can rush any game to end game, ESO included. Lets not forget that the first guy to hit 50 on ESO did it in 17 hours.
And is his account still active? As if I remember correctly there was quite a huge exploit they killed off within 2 days of Early Access.
I assume the People that "obviously" exploited this (and purposly not reported it in Beta to take advantage of in release) got banned!
It wasn't an exploit and people that leveled fast didn't get banned.
It was removed from the game. They were taking the "kill 20 foes" in cyrodil quest over and over and over. It's now restricted to once a day. And, yes, I'd count that as an abuse of the game mechanisms (e.g. a path to level 50 in hours, involving being part of a group, and something that you could get credit for without raising a finger.)
Originally posted by Magiknight I would rather die than play another MMO where you rush to end game.
You can rush any game to end game, ESO included. Lets not forget that the first guy to hit 50 on ESO did it in 17 hours.
And is his account still active? As if I remember correctly there was quite a huge exploit they killed off within 2 days of Early Access.
I assume the People that "obviously" exploited this (and purposly not reported it in Beta to take advantage of in release) got banned!
It wasn't an exploit and people that leveled fast didn't get banned.
It was removed from the game. They were taking the "kill 20 foes" in cyrodil quest over and over and over. It's now restricted to once a day. And, yes, I'd count that as an abuse of the game mechanisms (e.g. a path to level 50 in hours, involving being part of a group, and something that you could get credit for without raising a finger.)
Actually, you're wrong. But that was another way that people could level pretty fast.
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Ahem *old man voice* back in my day! We would grind for a week straight for one level! We didn't have these fancy pants quest hubs and frilly rewards around every corner. We had rusty weapons and cloth armor and we liked it!
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I am aware of that, I have played DAoC and all the others. I just hear about so many hitting 50 and Veteran ranks already.
Well that is very dissapointing to hear! But not suprising I Guess.
Guess I´ll avoid AvA for a long while then till I am 50 myself.
It doesnt matter if its old guy or young dude. The point is, if you want only measure dick with other, go play CS. The MMORPGs should be about journey and living in virtual world. You should earn things in that worlds. Thats/was (beffore you ppl did screw it up) the point of it. I didnt pay 70 for one week of rush gameplay and then what? Just fucking boring pvp? The pvp should be just something aside, not main content and doesnt matter what you YOUNG and COOL think. There is still more PvE players, PvP guys are just to loud, so it looks like there is more of them.
All the big companies are listening to you cool young or rush pvp ppl and all we have are shitty game, one same like other.
You can rush any game to end game, ESO included. Lets not forget that the first guy to hit 50 on ESO did it in 17 hours.
The OP is not feeling viable in PvP even with the pre-50 boost, which is another issue. Well, I guess having only one PvP zone in the whole game is both a blessing and a curse. That boost may not be strong enough, but in any other open world PvP game, your lower level would have to deal with higher levels without having any kind of boost.
And is his account still active? As if I remember correctly there was quite a huge exploit they killed off within 2 days of Early Access.
I assume the People that "obviously" exploited this (and purposly not reported it in Beta to take advantage of in release) got banned!
I've been killing Veteran Rank players in AvA since level 30. 1v1. Often they'd even have friends, where I was able to kill the one and get out of there before his buddies could pin me down.
You don't need to be 50 to be competitive in AvA.
If you've taken 58 hours to get to level 21, you're doing something really wrong or really right, depending on how you look at it. First off, I have less time that that spent on my level 47 character. In fact, I have less time than that on all my characters put together, and it took me about 6-7 hours (maybe less) to get my last alt to 17. I didn't read any quest text with him, since he's on the same alliance as my main. This was done entirely solo (all my characters are leveled solo, only occasionally grouping with random people found when someone invites me to finish a dungeon.)
So my guess is that you're either A. Reading everything, or B. Dying a lot. If it's the first, then clearly you're not out to rush to 50, but instead are looking to enjoy the game. That's fine. In fact, that's a good thing. I've done that on my main because I want to be immersed in the story. If, however, you're out to rush to 50, then you're doing it wrong.
On the other hand, if you're dying... Well, I'm not sure what advice to give. Either your mechanics are rusty, or you're building terribly. If you're leveling up, alone, you should have a high damage build. Don't go tank and throw all your points into health, and don't go healer. Not if you're running alone. Damage is the only way you'll ever finish quests / kill things at a reasonable rate. Trust me on this, I respecced 4 times while trying builds, thinking I could do my 'fun' DoT life-leech builds or my blur-evasion super tank build. Yeah, I lost probably 6 hours to a single level before I determined that that would have to wait until 50 where 90% of the future leveling would be done in a group.
Last point: Pretty much all of the people who hit VR1 before early access ended grinded their way to 50. If you think doing something like that will satisfy you, that is another option for quick leveling. I wouldn't be so hasty though. AvA isn't going anywhere, and killing the same mobs over and over for 25 hours straight does strange things to your head. I don't suggest doing it.
It wasn't an exploit and people that leveled fast didn't get banned.
I've met a level 22 who one shotted me when I was level 45 so yeh
Well I really like the fact that I am not viable against a level 50 - there SHOULD be difference between a level 50 and a upscaled 50.
My problem is that I enjoy PvP more than PvE (That is not ESO's fault, I have always been a PvP player), and it just takes ages to be competitive.
If you really want to reach level50 as auickly as possible, you can do AoE grind. To do this you must be a class that is capable of continuously AoEing several monsters. On Tamriel Foundry forums are topics on AoE powerleveling including maps that show the best spots.
Please keep in mind that your level is only one component that defines the strength of your character. Questing through the zones gives you many additional skillpoints via skyshards and certain quest lines that you do not want to miss.
No one rushed to end game in old scool EQ or FFXI.
I'm aware of that. But you also have weapons that yields more damage and gear with better armor and stats.
It really makes little difference. Ive gone up against people of all levels, only level 25 myself, and a 50 doesnt put up a whole lot more of a fight than anyone else. The key thing is going to be your build and your own personal skills, not gear / levels.
Granted some classes / builds can become much more powerful when at higher levels than lower levels due to having access to skills that were not available before, as well as some more passives, but as I mentioned that will depend on build. My particular build on my main basically has all of the main skills I plan on using already by level 25, with the exception of 1 which I am still unsure if I will even use much. The only thing I really have to look forward to now is getting some more bonuses from passives. Other types of builds may be lacking in useful skills for their type at lower levels and pick up some things that really make them shine at higher levels.
Also keep in mind that one factor in improving your gear later on will be running with crafted sets that gives bonuses that suit your build. Higher levels may be making more use of these at this point, however you can always get those same sets / bonuses put on low level gear as well giving you that same advantage. Just need to make friends with a crafter who has enough traits unlocked and access to those crafting stations.
You are levelling at a apropriate speed. This game has a slow levelling, compared to other MMOs such as WOW (non-vanilla), GW2, FF14, lotro (non-vanilla) and such.
So you are saying gear mattter as little as in Guild Wars 2?
Wow, Im not going to resub then
People consider that a plus actually gear should not trump skill.
In GW2 upscaled characters don't get one shotted in this game they do, the only way to level now is to quest that is it any other way and it will take days to gain 1 level i really think this needs to be changed.
It was removed from the game. They were taking the "kill 20 foes" in cyrodil quest over and over and over. It's now restricted to once a day. And, yes, I'd count that as an abuse of the game mechanisms (e.g. a path to level 50 in hours, involving being part of a group, and something that you could get credit for without raising a finger.)
Actually, you're wrong. But that was another way that people could level pretty fast.