Is ESO the PVP game for me?

ne1secure

I’ve done a lot of research and reading on this game but am wondering if you can help me determine if buying it would be a good idea.

First off, I am a PVP player first and foremost. PVE is ok and all, but once you realize it’s scripted and you execute what you need to do, PVE loses its luster unless it’s to improve PVP (for me).

Here is what I liked about other MMO PVP.

DAoC:

Three factions made the game terrific. How is the three faction thing working out in ESO? Are two sides teaming up or do you find there is a dominate side and the other two just give up?

Are there relic bonuses? 

I am not sure how the ranks work in this game but how is the fighting between a ‘high’ rank and low rank. Do PVP ranks matter?

Warhammer Online:

I enjoyed scenarios (BG’s) as they improved the points needed for our realm to progress to the opposing side’s capital. These instanced PVP components meant something for your ‘side’, but were also a good alternative if open RvR was quiet.

What do you do in ESO when its quiet in RVR?

Open RVR was incredible (if you were on a good server – I was). There was measure of realm pride to thwart the other side but there was also a good opportunity for small group play and large battles. I had a blast with 200v200 keep battles (though laggy), but more with how you would run around a corner into a solo player and have some of the best, meaningful ‘duels’. Is it possible for 2 well-coordinated players to beat 4 randoms?

Is there an opportunity to find small gameplay in ESO (i.e. 2v2’s, duels, 2v4’s, etc.)?

The PVE in Warhammer wasn’t very good but I didn’t mind it because the gear was useful in PVP. The chance at the ultimate shiney to complete a set was kind of cool.

Are there sets, or set bonuses in ESO?

I enjoyed having the realm pride to stop the other side, or to at least show my respect for the other (salutes, etc.). I know there isn’t name tags but how do you ‘acknowledge’ the other side?

One of the best things about Warhammer was keeping ‘score’. This game within a game was done using an add-on (called Demoz Kron, sp?) You could see how you performed against certain classes or players. One of the best long-term experiences I had was knowing if I were plus or minus versus some of the servers best players.

Are there personal achievement goals versus the enemy?

SWTOR:

Not many good things I can say about SWTOR but I did enjoy leveling up. It was the first game I felt ‘connected’ with my toon because of the story.

In ESO, do you feel like your main is your main? (hard to explain this but long time gamers will get the question)

PVP in SWTOR had its flaws, but I did enjoy how melee weren’t completely dominated by ranged. There wasn’t a real opportunity to kite melee, but there were escape opportunities for ranged.

Are ranged in ESO able to completely kite an opponent?

Finally, a class related question.

My class choices are typically DPS related with either self-heals or moderately  defensive tanks that are able to survive vs multiple enemies while still doing ok damage.

Do these options exist?

Thanks in advance.

neekol

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Panzerbase

Sorry, but you actually constructed a well thought out post and its going to take some time for the smarter folks to answer. PVP is not my thing so I'll refrain from answering your questions but I do know a EOS vs. DAOC post was on here earlier today, shouldn't be too hard to find.

Papajahat

Originally posted by ne1secure

My class choices are typically DPS related with either self-heals or moderately  defensive tanks that are able to survive vs multiple enemies while still doing ok damage.

Do these options exist?

Thanks in advance.

i don't play this game. all my friends/guild still play GW2.

all class can do that. dragonknight have 30% self heal with no cd(cost magicka). Sorc 50% leech on crit dmg. nightblade have their siphon. just build your char around this skill. templar no need to mention.

 

i play all games you mentioned and i think you golng to like ESO. i know i would coz we type of ppl can tolerate flaw and enjoy the game rather than complain.

 

 

Entinerint

Originally posted by ne1secure

I’ve done a lot of research and reading on this game but am wondering if you can help me determine if buying it would be a good idea.

First off, I am a PVP player first and foremost. PVE is ok and all, but once you realize it’s scripted and you execute what you need to do, PVE loses its luster unless it’s to improve PVP (for me).

Here is what I liked about other MMO PVP.

DAoC:

Three factions made the game terrific. How is the three faction thing working out in ESO? Are two sides teaming up or do you find there is a dominate side and the other two just give up?

All scenarios have occurred in the various campaigns.  Some are 2v1, some are dominated, some are balanced.

Are there relic bonuses? 

Yes, in the form of caputured Elder Scrolls.

I am not sure how the ranks work in this game but how is the fighting between a ‘high’ rank and low rank. Do PVP ranks matter?

PvP ranks are mostly cosmetic but if you kill a high rank you get more of a reqard in the form of XP and AP (alliance points)

Warhammer Online:

I enjoyed scenarios (BG’s) as they improved the points needed for our realm to progress to the opposing side’s capital. These instanced PVP components meant something for your ‘side’, but were also a good alternative if open RvR was quiet.

What do you do in ESO when its quiet in RVR?

Quest in the RvR zone, craft, quest in the veteran zones, dungeons.

Open RVR was incredible (if you were on a good server – I was). There was measure of realm pride to thwart the other side but there was also a good opportunity for small group play and large battles. I had a blast with 200v200 keep battles (though laggy), but more with how you would run around a corner into a solo player and have some of the best, meaningful ‘duels’. Is it possible for 2 well-coordinated players to beat 4 randoms?

Yes very possible.  But it also depends on level and gear to an extent.  While people below 50 are scaled to 50 stats, their gear and abilities are not so a 1v1 between a 50- and a veteran is not going to go well for a 50- unless they are really on the ball.

Is there an opportunity to find small gameplay in ESO (i.e. 2v2’s, duels, 2v4’s, etc.)?

Yes.

The PVE in Warhammer wasn’t very good but I didn’t mind it because the gear was useful in PVP. The chance at the ultimate shiney to complete a set was kind of cool.

Are there sets, or set bonuses in ESO?

Yes there are many sets, some requiring 3 pieces, some requiring 5 pieces and many of them are craftable but only at certain locations.

I enjoyed having the realm pride to stop the other side, or to at least show my respect for the other (salutes, etc.). I know there isn’t name tags but how do you ‘acknowledge’ the other side?

There's a ton of emotes, salutes, waves, bows, prayers, throat-cuts and such you can do.

One of the best things about Warhammer was keeping ‘score’. This game within a game was done using an add-on (called Demoz Kron, sp?) You could see how you performed against certain classes or players. One of the best long-term experiences I had was knowing if I were plus or minus versus some of the servers best players.

Are there personal achievement goals versus the enemy?

Yes there are daily quests in Cyrodiil that having you killing, capturing, scouting and such, as well as actual story quests in the contestd towns and public PvP dungeons.  There are all kinds of achievements and you will get gear rewards mailed to you periodically for exemplary performance.

SWTOR:

Not many good things I can say about SWTOR but I did enjoy leveling up. It was the first game I felt ‘connected’ with my toon because of the story.

In ESO, do you feel like your main is your main? (hard to explain this but long time gamers will get the question)

Yes, I have 1 main and 7 bank alts hehe.

PVP in SWTOR had its flaws, but I did enjoy how melee weren’t completely dominated by ranged. There wasn’t a real opportunity to kite melee, but there were escape opportunities for ranged.

Are ranged in ESO able to completely kite an opponent?

Not if the melee opponent is smart and has the proper skills slotted.

Finally, a class related question.

My class choices are typically DPS related with either self-heals or moderately  defensive tanks that are able to survive vs multiple enemies while still doing ok damage.

Do these options exist?

In pretty much every class you will be able to create a build like this.  I'd say Nightblade and Templar would be most effective for the former and Dragonknight for the latter but there are so many other skill-lines you can employ it doesn't really matter when it comes to class choice.

Thanks in advance.

No problem.

Voiidiin

All classes can be DPS in some form.

PvE for me is top notch.

PvP is great, what i can see of it, but they need a ton more network optimization, in GW2 i can do WvW without any noticeable lag. I live in a very remote part of Alaska, so my internet has a ton of latency, but its not felt in games with well optimized netcode.

But the AvA in ESO is closer to DAoC than WAR ever was. Seems to have more permanence than GW2 WvW. You can move siege in ESO, something that still baffles me in WvW with GW2.

I think in about 1-2 months this game will get more optimized and shine, but one caveat is that Zenimax has shown there Noobness as MMO developers, we will have to see how they shake things down.