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  • PemminPemmin Member UncommonPosts: 623

    yeah its actually........a decent review

    hits all the high points and the low points and remains relatively nuetral

  • Moar61Moar61 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    Pretty fair review, it's a shame that much of what has been bringing down ESO has been bugs and glitches. A bit more time could have definitely prevented this. 

    Thankfully I haven't run into these terrible bugs that ruin the game for people. However, maybe I'm hardened from all the other Bethesda games image

  • LookwhostalkingLookwhostalking Member Posts: 63
    I m a big fan of Oblivion & Morrowind (played just a bit of skyrim) and i was waiting ESO for long. Bought it, played until 34lvl, bored and dropped it. There is no point trolling the game, explaining the reasons why, so i m just saying i got bored of it. Hope the best for the rest who still enjoy it :)
  • KinadoKinado Member Posts: 198

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    I've been criticizing ESO a lot lately as the game has many, many flaws in every aspect. Still, after countless hours spent in-game I know the game is better than 5/10 . It needs a lot of work, tweaking and bug fixing, but its not a mediocre game at all.

    Still, everything he says its true, 5/10 looks a bit harsh but its a realistic view of the state of the game.

    ESO has a lot of potential but little else.

  • Instigator-JonesInstigator-Jones Member UncommonPosts: 530

    Some say ESO is the new SWTOR... I think that the ESO experience is EXACTLY like SWTOR. Given a few months of maturity and some dedicated players, we'll see the ESO experience mature and develop, just like SWTOR. Love it or hate it, SWTOR is doing well, new content abounds, and the experience is slowly becoming grand. Given time, ESO will do the exact same.

    its just sad that players now expect their version of perfect, and when it's not handed to them, they protest like spoiled kids. This reviewer, while seeming to be attentive and engaged, rather harshly gives a 5/10 for a game with such potential? I think a re-review in a year will tell a completely different story. Patience.

  • jpnzjpnz Member Posts: 3,529
    Originally posted by Instigator-Jones

    Some say ESO is the new SWTOR... I think that the ESO experience is EXACTLY like SWTOR. Given a few months of maturity and some dedicated players, we'll see the ESO experience mature and develop, just like SWTOR. Love it or hate it, SWTOR is doing well, new content abounds, and the experience is slowly becoming grand. Given time, ESO will do the exact same.

    its just sad that players now expect their version of perfect, and when it's not handed to them, they protest like spoiled kids. This reviewer, while seeming to be attentive and engaged, rather harshly gives a 5/10 for a game with such potential? I think a re-review in a year will tell a completely different story. Patience.

    If a company is asking for $$$, I think it is fair to ask 'what is the product NOW?' rather than 'What will the product be after X months?' Having potential is fine as long as the company is upfront about it.

    Gdemami -
    Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  • azzamasinazzamasin Member UncommonPosts: 3,105
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Instigator-Jones

    Some say ESO is the new SWTOR... I think that the ESO experience is EXACTLY like SWTOR. Given a few months of maturity and some dedicated players, we'll see the ESO experience mature and develop, just like SWTOR. Love it or hate it, SWTOR is doing well, new content abounds, and the experience is slowly becoming grand. Given time, ESO will do the exact same.

    its just sad that players now expect their version of perfect, and when it's not handed to them, they protest like spoiled kids. This reviewer, while seeming to be attentive and engaged, rather harshly gives a 5/10 for a game with such potential? I think a re-review in a year will tell a completely different story. Patience.

    If a company is asking for $$$, I think it is fair to ask 'what is the product NOW?' rather than 'What will the product be after X months?' Having potential is fine as long as the company is upfront about it.

    Exactly.

     

    Sadly I doubt it will last that long as a sub based model.  I could be wrong but I'm usually not.  We'll see here in another couple weeks when the subscription fairy comes calling.

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

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  • NecropsieNecropsie Member UncommonPosts: 142
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Instigator-Jones

    Some say ESO is the new SWTOR... I think that the ESO experience is EXACTLY like SWTOR. Given a few months of maturity and some dedicated players, we'll see the ESO experience mature and develop, just like SWTOR. Love it or hate it, SWTOR is doing well, new content abounds, and the experience is slowly becoming grand. Given time, ESO will do the exact same.

    its just sad that players now expect their version of perfect, and when it's not handed to them, they protest like spoiled kids. This reviewer, while seeming to be attentive and engaged, rather harshly gives a 5/10 for a game with such potential? I think a re-review in a year will tell a completely different story. Patience.

    If a company is asking for $$$, I think it is fair to ask 'what is the product NOW?' rather than 'What will the product be after X months?' Having potential is fine as long as the company is upfront about it.

    Exactly.

     

    Sadly I doubt it will last that long as a sub based model.  I could be wrong but I'm usually not.  We'll see here in another couple weeks when the subscription fairy comes calling.

    Yup. I fail to undrstand the "give them time and everything will be fine" mentality. Why should i give them time? Is this a indie - kickstarter project? No. this is an AAA title and i paid good money for it.

    Again, why should i give them time? They give me time if i don't pay my sub? This is a company, this is a product. Of course i expect the best now.

    Stages of a new mmo: 1) It's just beta. It still has plenty of time before release. 2) It just launched. Give it time. WoW wasn't built in a day. 3) We don't need you anyway. 4) F2P announced. 5)Huge influx of players. 6) Look how much has changed. 7) Cash shop is the only thing developed lately. 8) It has been a long journey and we thank everyone who was part of it. Shutting down in 3 months. (Courtesy of Robokapp.)

  • saurus123saurus123 Member UncommonPosts: 678
    Originally posted by Kinado

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    I've been criticizing ESO a lot lately as the game has many, many flaws in every aspect. Still, after countless hours spent in-game I know the game is better than 5/10 . It needs a lot of work, tweaking and bug fixing, but its not a mediocre game at all.

    Still, everything he says its true, 5/10 looks a bit harsh but its a realistic view of the state of the game.

    ESO has a lot of potential but little else.

    30 hours is enough for review

    its enough to see if the game have potential or not

    if its another clone or not

    if you enjoy the game or not

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Originally posted by Kinado

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    I've been criticizing ESO a lot lately as the game has many, many flaws in every aspect. Still, after countless hours spent in-game I know the game is better than 5/10 . It needs a lot of work, tweaking and bug fixing, but its not a mediocre game at all.

    Still, everything he says its true, 5/10 looks a bit harsh but its a realistic view of the state of the game.

    ESO has a lot of potential but little else.

     

     

    This,

     

    Still waiting for the real reviews to come out.

  • CultOfXtcCultOfXtc Member Posts: 378
    Originally posted by Jockan
    Originally posted by Kinado

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    I've been criticizing ESO a lot lately as the game has many, many flaws in every aspect. Still, after countless hours spent in-game I know the game is better than 5/10 . It needs a lot of work, tweaking and bug fixing, but its not a mediocre game at all.

    Still, everything he says its true, 5/10 looks a bit harsh but its a realistic view of the state of the game.

    ESO has a lot of potential but little else.

     

     

    This,

     

    Still waiting for the real reviews to come out.

    30 hours isn't a great deal I would agree but as someone else said this is in't a free game and im not a charity.  £30 for an incomplete game is the breaker for me, too many bugs by far, they can't control gold spaming, email support only.  It reeks of a FTP game but they want a box+sub fee.

     

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,064

    As as single player game, ESO isn't so bad, I'd tend to give it a 7or 7.5/10. It's like a quirky car that is fun to drive, but breaks down a lot. It is not dependable.

    I normally play a few hours at a time, and it is almost always interrupted by crashes, and having to relog. I would hate to try to take on a real group challenge that lasts for very long, the game doesn't stay up long enough. Trying to do some hours-long group quest would be impossible. As a group MMO, I'd rate it lower.

    Last night I played about 3 hours, just running around collecting alchemy ingredients, fighting the odd mob, and doing the odd quest. In that time, I had 2 crashes back to the login screen, one infinite loading screen that I had to relog from, and several loooong loading screens that I just waited on.

    A fun car to drive, but not reliable enough to take out on a road trip.

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  • UsualSuspectUsualSuspect Member UncommonPosts: 1,243
    Originally posted by saurus123

    30 hours is enough for review

    its enough to see if the game have potential or not

    if its another clone or not

    if you enjoy the game or not

    ^^^ This.

    A lot of single player games last less than 10 hours, so playing a game for three times that amount of time should be plenty for working out if it's good or not. If I have to play for 50+ hours to start enjoying it then something is seriously wrong.

  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048
    Well, I was surprised the quality of the review wasn't bad at all. It seemed quite well written. Though I'm more then certain this thread will have "This is BS, IGN said this!" silly chatter using a game website often paid to give inflated and BS reviews as a "Good sign" of how a game is doing. But eh. Not a bad review article at all.
  • LookwhostalkingLookwhostalking Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by Necropsie
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Instigator-Jones

    Some say ESO is the new SWTOR... I think that the ESO experience is EXACTLY like SWTOR. Given a few months of maturity and some dedicated players, we'll see the ESO experience mature and develop, just like SWTOR. Love it or hate it, SWTOR is doing well, new content abounds, and the experience is slowly becoming grand. Given time, ESO will do the exact same.

    its just sad that players now expect their version of perfect, and when it's not handed to them, they protest like spoiled kids. This reviewer, while seeming to be attentive and engaged, rather harshly gives a 5/10 for a game with such potential? I think a re-review in a year will tell a completely different story. Patience.

    If a company is asking for $$$, I think it is fair to ask 'what is the product NOW?' rather than 'What will the product be after X months?' Having potential is fine as long as the company is upfront about it.

    Exactly.

     

    Sadly I doubt it will last that long as a sub based model.  I could be wrong but I'm usually not.  We'll see here in another couple weeks when the subscription fairy comes calling.

    Yup. I fail to undrstand the "give them time and everything will be fine" mentality. Why should i give them time? Is this a indie - kickstarter project? No. this is an AAA title and i paid good money for it.

    Again, why should i give them time? They give me time if i don't pay my sub? This is a company, this is a product. Of course i expect the best now.

     

    Agree with all of you guys.

    Can ZEN show some "patience" with the subscribers and give them a sub free period, as they asked for themselves until they fix the game?

  • tixylixtixylix Member UncommonPosts: 1,288

    No one is raving about TESO, it is forgotten already by the game press...

    They all say the same "not another boring MMO" and what they should have been saying is "WOO another Elder Scrolls game that happens to be an MMO"........ sadly though they decided to turn The Elder Scrolls into more of a WoW style of game, but also just fail on making a world, it doesn't feel like an open world, more like a linear path.

  • Instigator-JonesInstigator-Jones Member UncommonPosts: 530
    Originally posted by mpompos
    Originally posted by Necropsie
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Instigator-Jones

    Some say ESO is the new SWTOR... I think that the ESO experience is EXACTLY like SWTOR. Given a few months of maturity and some dedicated players, we'll see the ESO experience mature and develop, just like SWTOR. Love it or hate it, SWTOR is doing well, new content abounds, and the experience is slowly becoming grand. Given time, ESO will do the exact same.

    its just sad that players now expect their version of perfect, and when it's not handed to them, they protest like spoiled kids. This reviewer, while seeming to be attentive and engaged, rather harshly gives a 5/10 for a game with such potential? I think a re-review in a year will tell a completely different story. Patience.

    If a company is asking for $$$, I think it is fair to ask 'what is the product NOW?' rather than 'What will the product be after X months?' Having potential is fine as long as the company is upfront about it.

    Exactly.

     

    Sadly I doubt it will last that long as a sub based model.  I could be wrong but I'm usually not.  We'll see here in another couple weeks when the subscription fairy comes calling.

    Yup. I fail to undrstand the "give them time and everything will be fine" mentality. Why should i give them time? Is this a indie - kickstarter project? No. this is an AAA title and i paid good money for it.

    Again, why should i give them time? They give me time if i don't pay my sub? This is a company, this is a product. Of course i expect the best now.

     

    Agree with all of you guys.

    Can ZEN show some "patience" with the subscribers and give them a sub free period, as they asked for themselves until they fix the game?

    Whine, Whine, Whine, and Whine... exactly my point... it's not what YOU want now... it is for MANY others... in TIME, it might be what you want too. Or maybe not and the ADD attitude will prevail and peeps will move on.

     

  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    Very good review and 5-6/10 is a fair rating.

    Zenimax put so much love into details, but yet utterly messed up so many huge aspects of a mmorpg.

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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    Originally posted by Kinado

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    If an MMO cannot grab your attention within the first 30 hours that is a failure. 30 hours is plenty of time to review something if you come to a conclusion. You should not have to grind  through crap to get to a good end game...if it is even good.

    Players will not do it so why should reviewers?

    Make MMORPG's Great Again!
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919

    It actually makes a difference to read a review that takes into account the bugs, bots, server downtime and so forth. As, when and if Zenimax "fix" the issues you can see how the score would be something higher.

    As it stands it joins a growing number of "OK but" reviews .... which won't help console sales going forward.

     

  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    Originally posted by Viper482
    Originally posted by Kinado

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    If an MMO cannot grab your attention within the first 30 hours that is a failure. 30 hours is plenty of time to review something if you come to a conclusion. You should not have to grind  through crap to get to a good end game...if it is even good.

    Players will not do it so why should reviewers?

    If the reviewer would have played 500 hours and gave it a 5/10, the same people would be saying "review is borked, the game cant be that bad if he spends 500hrs on it!!11"

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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Originally posted by Viper482
    Originally posted by Kinado

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    If an MMO cannot grab your attention within the first 30 hours that is a failure. 30 hours is plenty of time to review something if you come to a conclusion. You should not have to grind  through crap to get to a good end game...if it is even good.

    Players will not do it so why should reviewers?

    If the reviewer would have played 500 hours and gave it a 5/10, the same people would be saying "review is borked, the game cant be that bad if he spends 500hrs on it!!11"

    Yea, fanbois will be fanbois regardless. 

    In his defense he did put this at the end of the review....for those who actually made it that far:

    MMOs are huge by nature, and it takes time to see everything they have to offer. I always usually give every MMO a run for its money by reaching the end-game before review, but for good reasons TESO’s pace is slower than most. Even with 30 hours of play time I hardly made a dent. I will continue to play TESO in my spare time in an attempt to reach the max level, and then some. If I feel that the review should be updated and/or changed, I will make additions based on my experiences.

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  • Blaze007Blaze007 Member Posts: 188
    Originally posted by Volgore

    Very good review and 5-6/10 is a fair rating.

    Zenimax put so much love into details, but yet utterly messed up so many huge aspects of a mmorpg.

    That pretty much sums up what I think of the game. I love the design it is one of best mmo's in years. But the execution is a pinnacle of incompetence. Hackers, botters, gold sellers, spammers, dupers and other exploiters are running the game now, not Zenimax.

  • ohioastroohioastro Member UncommonPosts: 534
    The lowest numeric score of any of the 26 reviews on Metacritic gets promoted as validation of the opinions of people who hate the game. Somehow the rest of us managed to get past level 16 in 30 hours without having the game repeatedly bug out on us.  Somehow all of the other reviewers concealed "the truth."   PvP - an endgame activity - is dinged because you don't level up doing it.  The main quest line "forces you to stop".  No, it doesn't - you choose when or whether you want to advance it.  It sounds as if he spent a lot of time reading forum posts, what with the mind-reading about the dupe bug "annihilating the games economy". 
  • LookwhostalkingLookwhostalking Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Originally posted by Viper482
    Originally posted by Kinado

    He makes some good points but writting a review of a MMO with only 30 hours invested in it just shows that's he's seeking attention. Specially since so many people want official reviews of this MMO.

    If an MMO cannot grab your attention within the first 30 hours that is a failure. 30 hours is plenty of time to review something if you come to a conclusion. You should not have to grind  through crap to get to a good end game...if it is even good.

    Players will not do it so why should reviewers?

    If the reviewer would have played 500 hours and gave it a 5/10, the same people would be saying "review is borked, the game cant be that bad if he spends 500hrs on it!!11"

     

    True

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