Can't find the info I need for pvp

SirBalin

There are a few questions regarding pvp on here, but I'm not quite understanding the answers, so I'm posting my questions here:

 

1.  I know there are sieges, but are they limited?  I guess I'm looking for a game like Darkfall where my clan owns a keep, but we want another, so we siege another clans keep and we get it.  There are no restrictions, it's pure open world sieges, etc.  Is the siege system like this here?  How will it be different?

2.  As far as owpvp, what are the rules on it?  Can I just open world pvp everywhere I want?

3.  What's the meaning of clans?  The past two games I've played have been okay, but they are totally alliance based...I want to be clan based with meaning.  How are clans important?

4.  Is this 100% going to be tab target?  Any chance they will have an aim to shoot server?

flizzer

The PvP aspects of this game have me worried also.  Full scale, open, PvP games will always bring out the MMO bottom-feeders, or, as I like to call them -the sociopaths- of the gaming world.  I prefer a more cooperative environment where I am helping new players and not looking at them as targets.  I hope this PvP is limited to a select area and most of the world I can roam and explore without being hindered. 

DEAD.line

From another thread answer, level 1-30 areas are no pvp zones. Level 30+ have war times and peace times. If peace times, no pvp is allowed.

I also read that you gain honor for your faction, or not, depending on the threat level of the times. The northen continent is full owpvp. And if i'm not mistaken, all sea is owpvp too.

There's 2 factions, but you can desert it if you wish and become a pirate. However, i hear being a deserter isn't very usefull because of the huge inconvinice. Not too sure on that. I also don't know if you can abandon factions without being a criminal.

Castle siege don't happen at any time without control either. There's an auction and the highest bidder can siege it against the defending guild on a set time.

Also, no, no aim based. It's a tab targetting game, but i heard there's some alterations to it.

Remember, some of my info may not be correct.

flizzer

Thanks for the info.  

SirBalin

Originally posted by DEAD.line

From another thread answer, level 1-30 areas are no pvp zones. Level 30+ have war times and peace times. If peace times, no pvp is allowed.

I also read that you gain honor for your faction, or not, depending on the threat level of the times. The northen continent is full owpvp. And if i'm not mistaken, all sea is owpvp too.

There's 2 factions, but you can desert it if you wish and become a pirate. However, i hear being a deserter isn't very usefull because of the huge inconvinice. Not too sure on that. I also don't know if you can abandon factions without being a criminal.

Castle siege don't happen at any time without control either. There's an auction and the highest bidder can siege it against the defending guild on a set time.

Also, no, no aim based. It's a tab targetting game, but i heard there's so alteartions to it.

Remember, some of my info may not be correct.

Ahhh...so it's weaksauce, peace times = care bear.  Won't be playing...thanks...

*Any chance of a pvp server where there won't be carebear times?

DEAD.line

Originally posted by SirBalin

Originally posted by DEAD.line

From another thread answer, level 1-30 areas are no pvp zones. Level 30+ have war times and peace times. If peace times, no pvp is allowed.

I also read that you gain honor for your faction, or not, depending on the threat level of the times. The northen continent is full owpvp. And if i'm not mistaken, all sea is owpvp too.

There's 2 factions, but you can desert it if you wish and become a pirate. However, i hear being a deserter isn't very usefull because of the huge inconvinice. Not too sure on that. I also don't know if you can abandon factions without being a criminal.

Castle siege don't happen at any time without control either. There's an auction and the highest bidder can siege it against the defending guild on a set time.

Also, no, no aim based. It's a tab targetting game, but i heard there's so alteartions to it.

Remember, some of my info may not be correct.

Ahhh...so it's weaksauce, peace times = care bear.  Won't be playing...thanks...

*Any chance of a pvp server where there won't be carebear times?

Regarding pvp servers, Trion answered an AMA and said there's no different rule servers. They'll probably all contain the same rulesets.

Sorry OP, but it doesnt' look like this is the you're looking for. But like i said, pvp can happen anywhere in the north continent and open sea. If you wanted more open, then it's unfortunatly not the game you're looking for. 

SirBalin

Originally posted by DEAD.line

Originally posted by SirBalin

Originally posted by DEAD.line

From another thread answer, level 1-30 areas are no pvp zones. Level 30+ have war times and peace times. If peace times, no pvp is allowed.

I also read that you gain honor for your faction, or not, depending on the threat level of the times. The northen continent is full owpvp. And if i'm not mistaken, all sea is owpvp too.

There's 2 factions, but you can desert it if you wish and become a pirate. However, i hear being a deserter isn't very usefull because of the huge inconvinice. Not too sure on that. I also don't know if you can abandon factions without being a criminal.

Castle siege don't happen at any time without control either. There's an auction and the highest bidder can siege it against the defending guild on a set time.

Also, no, no aim based. It's a tab targetting game, but i heard there's so alteartions to it.

Remember, some of my info may not be correct.

Ahhh...so it's weaksauce, peace times = care bear.  Won't be playing...thanks...

*Any chance of a pvp server where there won't be carebear times?

Regarding pvp servers, Trion answered an AMA and said there's no different rule servers. They'll probably all contain the same rulesets.

Sorry OP, but it doesnt' look like this is the you're looking for. But like i said, pvp can happen anywhere in the north continent and open sea. If you wanted more open, then it's unfortunatly not the game you're looking for. 

Yea...oh well...Black Desert is what I was looking for anyway..

Isarii

Originally posted by flizzer
The PvP aspects of this game have me worried also.  Full scale, open, PvP games will always bring out the MMO bottom-feeders, or, as I like to call them -the sociopaths- of the gaming world.  I prefer a more cooperative environment where I am helping new players and not looking at them as targets.  I hope this PvP is limited to a select area and most of the world I can roam and explore without being hindered. 

Maybe, and this is just a thought, you shouldn't play OWPvP games if you don't like OWPvP, instead of trying to put people down for enjoying a different playstyle than yours. I don't go to a KFC and whine about all of the fried food, and what you're doing is just as ridiculous. 

Sovrath

Originally posted by SirBalin

 

Yea...oh well...Black Desert is what I was looking for anyway..

I thought I read that one could "shut pvp off" in black desert if one doesn't want to participate.

This is from a fansite:

Black Desert PvP

One of the first questions that Players ask when open-world PvP is announced is, “Will it be hardcore, where all is at risk? Or it will be watered down for players who’d rather a PvE server?” Pearl Abyss has expressed that they wish to find a balance for the two player groups. They have offered a choice for players to turn on and off open-world PvP options, pleasing both sides effectively. Since Black Desert is a seamless, open world game, it could be risky for players who are chased through the entire map!

 

http://black-desert.com/pvp/

Spawnblade

Originally posted by SirBalin

Originally posted by DEAD.line

From another thread answer, level 1-30 areas are no pvp zones. Level 30+ have war times and peace times. If peace times, no pvp is allowed.

I also read that you gain honor for your faction, or not, depending on the threat level of the times. The northen continent is full owpvp. And if i'm not mistaken, all sea is owpvp too.

There's 2 factions, but you can desert it if you wish and become a pirate. However, i hear being a deserter isn't very usefull because of the huge inconvinice. Not too sure on that. I also don't know if you can abandon factions without being a criminal.

Castle siege don't happen at any time without control either. There's an auction and the highest bidder can siege it against the defending guild on a set time.

Also, no, no aim based. It's a tab targetting game, but i heard there's so alteartions to it.

Remember, some of my info may not be correct.

Ahhh...so it's weaksauce, peace times = care bear.  Won't be playing...thanks...

*Any chance of a pvp server where there won't be carebear times?

Thank god you won't, because this kind of response tells us all exactly what kind of player you are.

 

As for the concern listed by another poster in this thread -- there are judicial systems in game.  I haven't read up on the extent of them, but to my understanding, they basically allow you to capture rampant PKers and try them/exile them.  Etc etc.

SirBalin

What info do we have about sieges?  

 

Can we declare war on other guilds in faction?  

 

Can we siege within faction?

 

Where can I see this info, I'm just not seeing it anywhere.

Karble

Originally posted by SirBalin

What info do we have about sieges?  

 

Can we declare war on other guilds in faction?  

 

Can we siege within faction?

 

Where can I see this info, I'm just not seeing it anywhere.

They have discussed some of the pvp and siege systems in a previous developer video within the last month. Also this web location might help a bit    

http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/24/20120511/Guide_to_How_Sieges_work_in_Archeage-4facd6a8679ca4f13-1.html

 

basically if you are in a guild you can collect the materials and to a raid and with this you can lay claim to a large area and start building a castle. This area will produce a useful element for all crafting in the game. Therefor all castles will be high targets for sieges. as the owner of the castle you collect taxes from people that wish to settle within the radius of it.

I am unclear as to weather you can attack castles of your own faction or if it's open to anyone.

I do know that you can choose to become a pirate and maybe have a full guild of pirates and there is a special island where pirates can still do business and stuff but as a pirate you will be attacked on sight by your original faction city npc's.

 

As Pirates you of course should be able to lay siege to any castle if you win the auction for the chance to lay siege. Once this begins it is for a certain time and if you are successful then you get the castle and tax abilities and everything associated with it. I big component I think would be fun is, as a pirate guild you could be hell on the high seas since you could concentrate on building large ships and having maybe 4 ships on patrol with all cannons aimed at trade routes and basically build a name for yourselves that way. You can take possession of all goods being transported on the ships trying to go across the waters. There have been alot of tactics used in pvp from underwater mini-sub attacks to massive glider fly in attacks to siege equipment attacks. It will be epic once things get going. As for other pvp games.....many have missed the mark and failed. This one is actually living up to much of what people expected. It's a hybrid of huge role play elements, PvE content, Massive crafting componts, and pvp. Just needs a bunch of people with the various focus (guilds) and we should eventually see all these things happening at the same time. Should be good fun for all. Sure there may be other games in the distance (see years off), but this one is almost ready to go and can be gotten into early so you can get an understanding of the best tactics to get an early advantage over your enemies and to help your guild rise to the top in whatever focus you are going for.

SirBalin

Originally posted by Karble

Originally posted by SirBalin

What info do we have about sieges?  

 

Can we declare war on other guilds in faction?  

 

Can we siege within faction?

 

Where can I see this info, I'm just not seeing it anywhere.

They have discussed some of the pvp and siege systems in a previous developer video within the last month. Also this web location might help a bit    

http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/24/20120511/Guide_to_How_Sieges_work_in_Archeage-4facd6a8679ca4f13-1.html

 

basically if you are in a guild you can collect the materials and to a raid and with this you can lay claim to a large area and start building a castle. This area will produce a useful element for all crafting in the game. Therefor all castles will be high targets for sieges. as the owner of the castle you collect taxes from people that wish to settle within the radius of it.

I am unclear as to weather you can attack castles of your own faction or if it's open to anyone.

I do know that you can choose to become a pirate and maybe have a full guild of pirates and there is a special island where pirates can still do business and stuff but as a pirate you will be attacked on sight by your original faction city npc's.

 

As Pirates you of course should be able to lay siege to any castle if you win the auction for the chance to lay siege. Once this begins it is for a certain time and if you are successful then you get the castle and tax abilities and everything associated with it. I big component I think would be fun is, as a pirate guild you could be hell on the high seas since you could concentrate on building large ships and having maybe 4 ships on patrol with all cannons aimed at trade routes and basically build a name for yourselves that way. You can take possession of all goods being transported on the ships trying to go across the waters. There have been alot of tactics used in pvp from underwater mini-sub attacks to massive glider fly in attacks to siege equipment attacks. It will be epic once things get going. As for other pvp games.....many have missed the mark and failed. This one is actually living up to much of what people expected. It's a hybrid of huge role play elements, PvE content, Massive crafting componts, and pvp. Just needs a bunch of people with the various focus (guilds) and we should eventually see all these things happening at the same time. Should be good fun for all. Sure there may be other games in the distance (see years off), but this one is almost ready to go and can be gotten into early so you can get an understanding of the best tactics to get an early advantage over your enemies and to help your guild rise to the top in whatever focus you are going for.

Good info, thank you

LachyFTW

What about open world PVP? Do I gain anything from killing players? Do they lose XP or anything else when killed by another player?

Karble

Originally posted by LachyFTW
What about open world PVP? Do I gain anything from killing players? Do they lose XP or anything else when killed by another player?

From what I have gathered, there are certain times when you gain some in game currency or advantage when killing other factions. I am at work so can't spend the time to find the stuff I read and watched about it.

Also you don't actually loot player gear from a player, but I heard there will be drops off players. Not sure what drops exactly.

 Death penalties:

After level 10 if you get killed you will lose experience. You can gain 90% back by visiting a temple and talk to a priest or sister there.