Open world pvp response to Macarthur200's thread

Farstryder

I made this as a response in a thread but due to the amount of pages I wish for the original poster to see this as well as the first replies that stated no world Pvp game has been successful. I tend to stray off topic and ramble but I hope some people understand or feel exactly what I am trying to get across. I was heated while typing this feeling the rage and loss of my craving for open world mayhem so my writing reflects this butchery of the English language.

Is everyone forgetting there was ( I don't know if there still is) huge open world PvP in WoW? Warcraft and DAOC were both hugely popular and financially successful mmo's. Hillsbrad back in the day was pvp 24/7 for over a year. What we should be asking is if anyone can actually make a true open world game for 1, and for 2 can they make a good open world pvp game. All you need to do is remove battlegrounds, remove this need to focus in one area and make open real world rewards. Bring back open world titles kdr's like eq2 Kunark pvp. Remove any type of pvp modifier that negates damage or provides some reduction.Make Pvp armor rewards that is almost on par with the best Pve armor. people love to get loot, the answer isn't removing loot or Pve from the equation it's combining them together. Ganking has always been part of pvp it's the best part nothing better than questing with a friend to get jumped and turn the tide on them. No one designated Hillsbrad as a pvp zone back in the day or Astranar ( I Believe it was called). People chose that for themselves, don't make these dumb real world spots where everyone goes and it's a zerg. Real world pvp is spontaneous, you get ganked by two call in a friend run back to the spot..battle ensues they call more, which prompts you to call more and next thing you know you have a full fledged war out in some random zone with a jungle. People who do not like to be jumped or be in actual battle..which in my opinion is not when you are ready for it.. do not have to play. There is nothing better than that edge when you are out alone or trying to kill a rare mob with the threat of people nearby to kill you while attempting it. Yes I am prone to rambling but I hope you see the point make the world  giant bg with rewards in pvp. Make a huge tier cap where it takes a year or more to attain the height of pvp rewards, then make new tiers, keep people engaged with valuable spots that are located in some type of xroads between factions (or possible more than 2 or 3 factions try 8 , hell try 9).

TheLizardbones

Don't make response threads.  It's in the rules.

 

maccarthur2004

Good points OP, i agree.

 

 

Amana

Instead of splitting the discussion into multiple places, please continue in the original thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/411996/Is-true-that-there-isnt-enough-pvpers-in-the-whole-world-to-sustain-a-big-budget-OW-PVP-mmo.html