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WildStar vs Eso vs wut ???

HefaistosHefaistos Member UncommonPosts: 388

I am currently looking for a new mmo to stick with.

I see Wildstar is coming soon...Eso is released...and what else can i try? My background comes from Dark Age of Camelot until...almost all mmos.

 

I mainly a pvper by the heard...but i can stick with most of the content the game has to offer. Who do you think will be better 3 months after release in high end content pvp/pve?

 

I would love to see a Pro and Con of all the games you want to comment about.

 

Thanks!

Comments

  • syriinxsyriinx Member UncommonPosts: 1,383
    Im not familiar with WUT.  I hope its a PvE sandbox.
  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083

    ESO offers DAoC style RvR and it's pretty top notch. WildStar is no slouch either and does just fine standing on its own. Here is my observations from playing ESO for 6+ months from beta till now and about 3 months of WS beta:

     

    Pros for ESO:

    Huge open world

    Exploration based

    RvR/AvA PvP

    Interesting class choices with hundreds of viable builds

    Challenging 4 man dungeon content

    4-6 week content update cycle

    Realistic Graphics that are top notch

    Exceptional Lore and Storytelling

     

    Pros for WildStar:

    Quest hub based leveling lets you either explore or just follow town to town if you prefer

    Battlegrounds and Warplots. Warplots are actually really cool!

    Stylized graphics give the game more character

    More class choices than ESO

    4 Different sub paths for each character based on your style of gameplay add a new element of fun

    40 Man Raid content

    CHUA!

     

     

    Both games are great games imo, but they attract widely different audiences. Honestly, I have had a lot of fun with both. ESO has problems with bugs in the quests and abilities, and WildStar has optimization issues at the moment that make the game run poorly.

     

    I expect both issues to be fixed in short order, and both games to continue to deliver great content to their fans.

     

    The only other game I would recommend based off what you have said is Guild Wars 2. The WvW is pretty fun and the leveling from 1-80 is a lot of fun as well. At 80 GW2 falls apart as there is no gear to get, no raids to do, no end game content at all really aside from grinding for a legendary weapon and WvW. Still, I would recommend GW2 to a DAoC fan solely based on the World Vs World aspect.

     

     

    Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
    Have played: You name it
    If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.

  • HefaistosHefaistos Member UncommonPosts: 388
    Have you played Darkfall2 Aeon? How do you find it if so?
  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

    I would think your WUT would be ArcheAge which I have no hands on experience with but it looks OK and I believe is OW PvP. 

    Wildstar is your typical linear quest driven themepark mmorpg as you are lead from zone to zone. I tried a couple of Beta weekend and found it pretty meh, nothing I hadn't seen before. I had no experience of PvP. If you can get into a Beta weekend you should give it a go to see if you like it.

    ESO I tried Beta and was unsure about buying it but due to boredom I bought the standard version and wish I hadn't. After a week of forcing myself to log in I just gave up and haven't touched it since. Although there is exploring and crafting the PvE is still a linear themepark affair and the PvP is a zergfest. If you like this type of PvP you will probably like ESO's PvP but I would wait for a trial or buddy key before you buy it.

  • andre369andre369 Member UncommonPosts: 970

    Loving Arch Age so far, trying not to play too much to keep it fresh when it comes. And the thought of loosing all progress does not motivate me to play! Although I play atleast 2 hours each days still. 

     

    As for a list there is plenty of info on this forum and the official forum. 

  • davc123davc123 Member UncommonPosts: 458
    Originally posted by Hefaistos

    I am currently looking for a new mmo to stick with.

    I see Wildstar is coming soon...Eso is released...and what else can i try? My background comes from Dark Age of Camelot until...almost all mmos.

     

    I mainly a pvper by the heard...but i can stick with most of the content the game has to offer. Who do you think will be better 3 months after release in high end content pvp/pve?

     

    I would love to see a Pro and Con of all the games you want to comment about.

     

    Thanks!

    ArcheAge

  • Moar61Moar61 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    It's hard not to recommend ESO if you like DAoC style pvp. They're also planning on making the Imperial City a PVP dungeon similar to Darkness Falls. ArcheAge seems pretty unique to with for the most part open world PVP, however it's very "korean" if I can say that without sounding offensive. 

  • kage71kage71 Member UncommonPosts: 123
    Originally posted by Aeonblades

    ESO offers DAoC style RvR and it's pretty top notch. WildStar is no slouch either and does just fine standing on its own. Here is my observations from playing ESO for 6+ months from beta till now and about 3 months of WS beta:

     

    Pros for ESO:

    Huge open world

    Exploration based

    RvR/AvA PvP

    Interesting class choices with hundreds of viable builds

    Challenging 4 man dungeon content

    4-6 week content update cycle

    Realistic Graphics that are top notch

    Exceptional Lore and Storytelling

     

    Pros for WildStar:

    Quest hub based leveling lets you either explore or just follow town to town if you prefer

    Battlegrounds and Warplots. Warplots are actually really cool!

    Stylized graphics give the game more character

    More class choices than ESO

    4 Different sub paths for each character based on your style of gameplay add a new element of fun

    40 Man Raid content

    CHUA!

     

     

    Both games are great games imo, but they attract widely different audiences. Honestly, I have had a lot of fun with both. ESO has problems with bugs in the quests and abilities, and WildStar has optimization issues at the moment that make the game run poorly.

     

    I expect both issues to be fixed in short order, and both games to continue to deliver great content to their fans.

     

    The only other game I would recommend based off what you have said is Guild Wars 2. The WvW is pretty fun and the leveling from 1-80 is a lot of fun as well. At 80 GW2 falls apart as there is no gear to get, no raids to do, no end game content at all really aside from grinding for a legendary weapon and WvW. Still, I would recommend GW2 to a DAoC fan solely based on the World Vs World aspect.

     

     

    Just wanted to say there is no way Wildstar has more class choices than ESO reason being is because a person can create the same basic character such as a Dragon Knight and 1 become a Dragon Knight Tank 2. become a Dragon Knight Fire Mage 3. Become a Dragon Knight healer if you want to. There are way too many ways to spec in ESO to not follow the same basic classes so to say Wildstar has more classes than ESO is untrue.

  • JabasJabas Member UncommonPosts: 1,249
    Originally posted by Hefaistos

    I am currently looking for a new mmo to stick with.

    I see Wildstar is coming soon...Eso is released...and what else can i try? My background comes from Dark Age of Camelot until...almost all mmos.

     

    I mainly a pvper by the heard...but i can stick with most of the content the game has to offer. Who do you think will be better 3 months after release in high end content pvp/pve?

     

    I would love to see a Pro and Con of all the games you want to comment about.

     

    Thanks!

    Based in what you write only one game come to mind: ArcheAge.

  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083
    Originally posted by Hefaistos
    Have you played Darkfall2 Aeon? How do you find it if so?

    I have not played DF2 personally. I do have an RL friend that played it for a few months, and he said while the PvP is great, the bad parts of the game outshined the good. He said it was pretty grindy. Take from that what you will, but I can't say anything positive or negative myself.

    Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
    Have played: You name it
    If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.

  • bleedingQbleedingQ Member UncommonPosts: 3
    Originally posted by kage71
    Originally posted by Aeonblades

    ESO offers DAoC style RvR and it's pretty top notch. WildStar is no slouch either and does just fine standing on its own. Here is my observations from playing ESO for 6+ months from beta till now and about 3 months of WS beta:

     

    Pros for ESO:

    Huge open world

    Exploration based

    RvR/AvA PvP

    Interesting class choices with hundreds of viable builds

    Challenging 4 man dungeon content

    4-6 week content update cycle

    Realistic Graphics that are top notch

    Exceptional Lore and Storytelling

     

    Pros for WildStar:

    Quest hub based leveling lets you either explore or just follow town to town if you prefer

    Battlegrounds and Warplots. Warplots are actually really cool!

    Stylized graphics give the game more character

    More class choices than ESO

    4 Different sub paths for each character based on your style of gameplay add a new element of fun

    40 Man Raid content

    CHUA!

     

     

    Both games are great games imo, but they attract widely different audiences. Honestly, I have had a lot of fun with both. ESO has problems with bugs in the quests and abilities, and WildStar has optimization issues at the moment that make the game run poorly.

     

    I expect both issues to be fixed in short order, and both games to continue to deliver great content to their fans.

     

    The only other game I would recommend based off what you have said is Guild Wars 2. The WvW is pretty fun and the leveling from 1-80 is a lot of fun as well. At 80 GW2 falls apart as there is no gear to get, no raids to do, no end game content at all really aside from grinding for a legendary weapon and WvW. Still, I would recommend GW2 to a DAoC fan solely based on the World Vs World aspect.

     

     

    Just wanted to say there is no way Wildstar has more class choices than ESO reason being is because a person can create the same basic character such as a Dragon Knight and 1 become a Dragon Knight Tank 2. become a Dragon Knight Fire Mage 3. Become a Dragon Knight healer if you want to. There are way too many ways to spec in ESO to not follow the same basic classes so to say Wildstar has more classes than ESO is untrue.

     

    Yeah but in WS every class has 3 branches of skills which divides them in 3 more sub-classes/specializations each, pretty much the same that ESO does.

     

    For example Engineers can be Tanks // Burst Damage DPS // or some kind of Summoner Engineer with lots of Bots running around.

     

    So yeah... if you do the maths... ESO has 4 main classes (and some of them are not even viable to have 3 branches) and WS has 6 (and just 1 of it's classes is not so different between branches --> Medic which can only go for Support/Heal or DPS)

    Cheers

  • FurellFurell Member Posts: 42
    Originally posted by kage71
    Originally posted by Aeonblades

    ESO offers DAoC style RvR and it's pretty top notch. WildStar is no slouch either and does just fine standing on its own. Here is my observations from playing ESO for 6+ months from beta till now and about 3 months of WS beta:

     

    Pros for ESO:

    Huge open world

    Exploration based

    RvR/AvA PvP

    Interesting class choices with hundreds of viable builds

    Challenging 4 man dungeon content

    4-6 week content update cycle

    Realistic Graphics that are top notch

    Exceptional Lore and Storytelling

     

    Pros for WildStar:

    Quest hub based leveling lets you either explore or just follow town to town if you prefer

    Battlegrounds and Warplots. Warplots are actually really cool!

    Stylized graphics give the game more character

    More class choices than ESO

    4 Different sub paths for each character based on your style of gameplay add a new element of fun

    40 Man Raid content

    CHUA!

     

     

    Both games are great games imo, but they attract widely different audiences. Honestly, I have had a lot of fun with both. ESO has problems with bugs in the quests and abilities, and WildStar has optimization issues at the moment that make the game run poorly.

     

    I expect both issues to be fixed in short order, and both games to continue to deliver great content to their fans.

     

    The only other game I would recommend based off what you have said is Guild Wars 2. The WvW is pretty fun and the leveling from 1-80 is a lot of fun as well. At 80 GW2 falls apart as there is no gear to get, no raids to do, no end game content at all really aside from grinding for a legendary weapon and WvW. Still, I would recommend GW2 to a DAoC fan solely based on the World Vs World aspect.

     

     

    Just wanted to say there is no way Wildstar has more class choices than ESO reason being is because a person can create the same basic character such as a Dragon Knight and 1 become a Dragon Knight Tank 2. become a Dragon Knight Fire Mage 3. Become a Dragon Knight healer if you want to. There are way too many ways to spec in ESO to not follow the same basic classes so to say Wildstar has more classes than ESO is untrue.

    He's technically right about more class choices in Wildstar. Also, if you played 1 class in ESO to VR10, it's not that fun to play another one. In Wildstar it is because it's really different, with every class being hugely different from each other. In ESO you have 3 class trees that are different and maybe maximum 3 class spells on your action bar. You have to admit you can better switch weapons than switch class in ESO, in Wildstar it's fun to level another class.

  • AlalalaAlalala Member UncommonPosts: 314
    Originally posted by Hefaistos

    I am currently looking for a new mmo to stick with.

    I see Wildstar is coming soon...Eso is released...and what else can i try? My background comes from Dark Age of Camelot until...almost all mmos.

     

    I mainly a pvper by the heard...but i can stick with most of the content the game has to offer. Who do you think will be better 3 months after release in high end content pvp/pve?

     

    I would love to see a Pro and Con of all the games you want to comment about.

     

    Thanks!

     

    ESO is botters, spammers, campers, bugs, gold sellers, goofy phasing, broken quests, lost items, banning innocents players, speed hacks, character trainers, silly no AH, exploit quickly to max (VR10), etc.

     

    WS is yet another WoW-themepark, but with very very cartoony graphics.

     

    Gargling broken glass is very painful.

     

    Between those 3 options, cannot say which is the best for you.  All about the same, really.

     

    My advice:  Look at ArcheAge - see if you like what you see.

     

     

  • Ryoshi1Ryoshi1 Member Posts: 139

    That same DK can theoretically gain all skills and be a firemage/tank/healer/ranger combo as long as he's willing to swap gear to the respective scenario. My VR10 sorc primarily uses a bow/resto staff but have sword and board skills on standby for the - swoop in for the kill vamplolbbq- game.

    I looked at Archeage kr footage and it seems meh. We'll see what WUT has to offer :D imo ESO has better graphics, WS has better gameplay but you have to be ok with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loj5C1GVQBw

    /hoverboardsorgohome

  • DeniZgDeniZg Member UncommonPosts: 697
    If Wildstar fails, we can hope that Destiny will deliver.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Was supposed to be Landmark. I honestly think SOE might pull the plug on it though.

    Less people playing Landmark than there was playing End of Nations when Trion scrapped it.
  • ArcheAge2014ArcheAge2014 Member UncommonPosts: 135
    Archeage>>>Wildstar>>>>>ESO.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    Archeage can blame itself for keeping me and my money away.They should have learned by now that tons of hand holding markers are a complete negative on gaming and i won't support that anymore.Even if they removed the markers,i am not looking for a follow the path type game,i am looking for a role playing game,i want to adventure where and when i want and not be tied to following quests to gain xp.

    Game design in general has become incredibly generic in all games,i ti ls like nobody knows what a RP'ing game is,they all seem to think you copy Wow and that is how you make a rpg..

    Devs can add in all kinds of added ideas but if the end result is to chase around questing markers ,it is NOPT a rpg and not the type of game i want to play.

    I pray that there is some developer out there making a really good rpg in the near future before i completely get bored of the genre altogether.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • HefaistosHefaistos Member UncommonPosts: 388
    What arethe top 3 features of Wildstar ? Or #1 feature?
  • ZebladeZeblade Member UncommonPosts: 931

    if your looking for super easy, ..well every play morrowind? Its like that EMPTY in so many places. If you come on at the wrong time its dead. They STILL have tons of BOTS. For ME ESO was by far the most easiest mmo to date. DONT pay $60.. find it cheaper..its NOT worth it.

    Try Wildstar you have till the 18.. free. Test that NOW see how you like it. I wish I could say the same for ESO

  • VoiidiinVoiidiin Member Posts: 817

    Originally posted by davc123

    Originally posted by Hefaistos

    I am currently looking for a new mmo to stick with.

    I see Wildstar is coming soon...Eso is released...and what else can i try? My background comes from Dark Age of Camelot until...almost all mmos.

     

    I mainly a pvper by the heard...but i can stick with most of the content the game has to offer. Who do you think will be better 3 months after release in high end content pvp/pve?

     

    I would love to see a Pro and Con of all the games you want to comment about.

     

    Thanks!

    ArcheAge

    Originally posted by Jabas

    Originally posted by Hefaistos

    I am currently looking for a new mmo to stick with.

    I see Wildstar is coming soon...Eso is released...and what else can i try? My background comes from Dark Age of Camelot until...almost all mmos.

     

    I mainly a pvper by the heard...but i can stick with most of the content the game has to offer. Who do you think will be better 3 months after release in high end content pvp/pve?

     

    I would love to see a Pro and Con of all the games you want to comment about.

     

    Thanks!

    Based in what you write only one game come to mind: ArcheAge.

    Originally posted by Alalala

    Originally posted by Hefaistos

    I am currently looking for a new mmo to stick with.

    I see Wildstar is coming soon...Eso is released...and what else can i try? My background comes from Dark Age of Camelot until...almost all mmos.

     

    I mainly a pvper by the heard...but i can stick with most of the content the game has to offer. Who do you think will be better 3 months after release in high end content pvp/pve?

     

    I would love to see a Pro and Con of all the games you want to comment about.

     

    Thanks!

     

    ESO is botters, spammers, campers, bugs, gold sellers, goofy phasing, broken quests, lost items, banning innocents players, speed hacks, character trainers, silly no AH, exploit quickly to max (VR10), etc.

     

    WS is yet another WoW-themepark, but with very very cartoony graphics.

     

    Gargling broken glass is very painful.

     

    Between those 3 options, cannot say which is the best for you.  All about the same, really.

     

    My advice:  Look at ArcheAge - see if you like what you see.

     

     

    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014
    Archeage>>>Wildstar>>>>>ESO.

    I was a huge DAoC fan... played for almost 5 years straight (Iseult / Hibernia !!). I am still playing TESO, i have the Alpha founders for ArcheAge, and i just recently re-downloaded WildStar to try and give it another shot to impress me.

    Personally i play AA the most and look forward to it when i am playing WS, TESO has different things that i enjoy thats AA does not. WS i dunno... it just seems dull and i really cannot participate in the PvP which i seem to do well in TESO and AA (bad connection because i live in Barrow Alaska).

    If you are looking for advice from someone who LOVED DAoC and is a $300.00+ backer of Camelot Unchained, i am telling you ArcheAge is the game for you.

    Ummm its just really expensive to get into right this moment.

    Lolipops !

  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 Member UncommonPosts: 1,023
    i'd definatly go with wut
  • ArcheAge2014ArcheAge2014 Member UncommonPosts: 135
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    Archeage can blame itself for keeping me and my money away.They should have learned by now that tons of hand holding markers are a complete negative on gaming and i won't support that anymore.Even if they removed the markers,i am not looking for a follow the path type game,i am looking for a role playing game,i want to adventure where and when i want and not be tied to following quests to gain xp.

    Game design in general has become incredibly generic in all games,i ti ls like nobody knows what a RP'ing game is,they all seem to think you copy Wow and that is how you make a rpg..

    Devs can add in all kinds of added ideas but if the end result is to chase around questing markers ,it is NOPT a rpg and not the type of game i want to play.

    I pray that there is some developer out there making a really good rpg in the near future before i completely get bored of the genre altogether.

     you need the beginnign quest so you know how to do crafting and all its features. its tutorial.

  • GableGable Member UncommonPosts: 44

    Firstly, I think it's a bit too early to hype archeage up.  You never know until a game launches how it's gonna hold up.

     

    Personally I like a lot of things about ESO, but is is a terribly isolating experience (no functional auction house is baffling) and I would assume it won't be growing now--only shrinking--and it's hard to stand on the deck of a sinking ship, even a pretty one.  Also its endgame sounds abysmal. 

     

    Wildstar seems fun, but perhaps too typical.  To its credit it has pretty much EVERY bell and whistle (and then some) you could hope for, so we shall see.  It's stylish and quite funny. 

     

    I have a feeling Final Fantasy will still be on top by year's end.  Sure, the endgame is a bit grindy, but it's pretty fun.  The player -base is growing pretty rapidly thanks to how well it tutors players new to mmos (which wildstar, in my opinion, is spectacularly bad at) and it's not the sort of game people just leave because they've run out of content.  FF14 is a roleplayers game.  I get the sense that the people who remain there are more closely-knit than in any other mmo community I know of.

     

    I'm not playing it now, but it is almost a physical struggle every day not to go back.  While ESO lacks character and Wildstar rams it down your throat (in a good way, you gotta establish that lore), FF14 simply oozes it.

     

    Anyway, good luck. Off to play Wildstar

     

  • HefaistosHefaistos Member UncommonPosts: 388
    Gable, ive played FFXIV and i will consider it for casual play.
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