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eq next is going to miss the sandbox boat.
ArcheAge2014
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looks like eq next supposely is as good as archeage in terms of sandbox, however looks like archeage is going to beat them to a punch by releasing AA over here this year.
this game is as close to ultimate online. I mean man no sintace housing? 
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Archeage is not a game for everybody and even if I think it all sounds great this game will not have millions of players a few months after launch.
Don't get me wrong I am sure AA will be a hit but many sandbox players doesn't want a open world pvp to get ganked in all the time.
Everquest next will be a hit but I don't plan to play it, personally I rather play AA then EQ:N
Apples and oranges, this comparison is not valid.
Nah I think EQN is more sandbox (create more) while ArcheAge seems to be more a virtual world (more preset creations)
So in the end both very different games though I might expect from a visual perspective a EQ player might lean more towards ArchAge then EQN? And maybe EQN too much "sand"?
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You forgot to add that if we disagree with you, we are all wrong. AmIrite?
Also, EQ was released 5 yrs before WoW, so your justification is moot.
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He must have been referring to EQ2, which sort of rushed to market so as to beat WoW to the punch.
Lots of people don't remember this but EQ2 was considered to be the game that everyone was going to play, not WoW. The launches and subsequent 6-12 months after proved that to be dead wrong though.
I love how EQN slid into the sandbox title with little to nothing to back that up. Voxel based world isn't enough and IMHO is a gimmick. So until proven otherwise by actual gameplay not hopes, promises and dreams EQN being a sandbox is still yet to be proven. Moreso, EQN being anything but hype and gimmicks is also yet to be proven.
Archeage on the other hand, you know exactly what you will be getting.
Several people suspect him to be a shill. They might be right.
It takes one to know one.
I think EQ Next doesn't have anything to worry about. I love AA, I am having tons of fun in alpha and will definitely be playing at launch as my new main MMO. That being said, EQN will bring in a crowd of it's own that I believe will rival the niche crowd that AA will settle into.
While I am excited for both games I believe EQN will, in the long haul, be more successful with a strong player base.
There are alot of factors that come into play before saying something like that.
When will EQ Next launch?
Is EQ Next going to be action combat (active blocking etc) or tab target or a mix?
What level of customization will truly be available within the environment? Same as EQ Landmark or less than or totally different?
Will ArcheAge possibly put out a bad cash shop and free to play option or a good one?
Will ArcheAge put out any bad patches that could hurt the current functions of the game to the point of not keeping subs?
The future is still unwritten. I am hopeful that both games succeed and that there is enough difference in game play, art style, lore etc to really pull diferent crowds.
They are both worthwhile to play or at least keep following to see how they unfold in the near future.
Srsly? A EQN vs. AA thread? We sandbox fans and players should be happy about every game catering to us, and be happy if some of them will be acutally sandboxes and any good.. not a lot of quality sandboxes the last ten years, if you ask me.
But even more.. AA is releasing this year and EQN will maybe(with a lot of luck) release end of next year, and even more we really don't know enough about EQN.. all the basics, all the tools they use(StoryBricks AI, VoxelEngine Terraformable World) and the potential, what they could do with it sound awesome.. but beside of that there is more or less not much info available.
So just lets play ArcheAge this year, and enjoy it as long as possible, and when EQN finally will release, we can think again about that topic(in approximately 2 years), and if it is worth the switch or play both or whatever.. though a lot of people will either not play ArcheAge, or will not play it THAT long. I personally hope the best for both.. and have some doubts about both. Though that will not stop me to play and check it out myself.
OP you are really starting to grasp at straws now.
EQ Next is not even close to out. AA is not a success in Korea and has been out for years. This is not saying it wont be in the west however.
EQ Next is a game made by experienced EQ pros that know what the Western audience wants. AA is an Asian game translated to the West with all kinds of Asian systems in it that many Western players hate.
EQ Next has a world that can totally be destroyed or built with voxels, AA has nothing like that. EQ Next has Landmark a whole other game full of players that create things that can put into the EQ Next world.
AA is no competition to EQ Next, the people waiting for that game are all in Landmark or just waiting and don't even care about AA. Some will play AA just to pass the time, then leave it in a month or a little more.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
My thoughts exactly, they make the game feel a little sandboxy but it is all a theme park experience, I can assure you.
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I would be more excited about EQN if someone other than SOE were producing it. Let's face it folks, EQ1 is the only well done MMO that SOE has ever been able to get out the door that was worth playing. That means wort playing at1999 expectations when the bar was set pretty low. SOE killed SWG, with a crap release product, then did the holo grind from hell for Jedi, followed that with the CU. With EQ2 they out a turd sandwich and released it the month before WoW. Withing 2 months of WO's release they took away the only sandbox feature in the game - crafting to make it more WoW like. Then there was Vanguard. They were handed a diamond in the rough of a sandbox with Vanguard. But instead of polishing it's rough edges they treated it as EQ2's ugly sister. The games servers are shutting down on July 31st, nuff said
I am not a huge PvP fan myself so I sat here last night and looked long and hard at the EQN pre purchase page weighing what I hope to see vs what SOE has delived in the past howeve in the end I decided to hold off until beta actually begins at minimum. If I hear a lot of good thing there will be plenty of time to spend that money.
That is just me of course but if this was the old Turbine developing EQN I would have clicked buy in a skinny minute. Not saying it will be a good or bad game, just saying that SOE has one hell of a bad track record with sandboxes and fantasy game in general
I miss DAoC
I wish more people here understood both points you've made here.
These 'boats' sail for a a veryyyyyyyyyy long time in MMO waters. Games get on and get thrown off fast, very few survive much of the journey.
ArcheAge is very niche at best, EQ:N has the potential to move Sandbox from nice to mainstream, ArcheAge doesn't.
You say that as if it's a good thing.
All games have potential when in development and all games look great in PR releases.
I lost count of how many game that had potential are now nothing but memories. A canvas has potential to be a great painting but if the artist does not have talent it will just be chicken scratches.
Which sandbox MMO of SOE's was so successful that it gives you such hope?
I miss DAoC
Comparing oranges and grapefruit got it.