SWTOR or ESO: By month 3, which was in a better position?

d_20

Which game was doing better* by the third month after launch?

 

*Had more players in the world or to group with, was less buggy, had better community relations, etc., whatever criteria you want to use for your answer.

JOverlord

SWTOR hands down. SWTOR was packed to the brim still 3 months in.

Reklaw

Think they both did/are doing well in their 3 month in.

SWG was pretty packed and so is ESO.

Keep in mind I play the game like a ES game and besides I am far to experianced to rush to cap lvl or endgame. This goes for any MMO or MMORPG. So I keep seeing allot of people around the same level range and occasionally see higher leveld people, but the lower and mid level outnumber the cap lvl players as far I can see PVE wise.

Personaly feel ESO fits me more due to how story/quests are done. I felt SWtOR was very confined in where to go apart from a very linear path.

Though grouping did work better in SWtOR favore.

Both seems to have issue's where in both I read more about them then I encountered them myself.

Vermillion_Raventhal

Both are good for story and questing. But if you're tired if quest grinding neither game is worth it.

TheQuietGamer

SWTOR is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out longer and has had a lot of content added.  There are plenty of ways to play.  I would also say that they have eliminated most bugs, but the latest patch undid a lot of that good work.  
• Both are essentially a single-player levelling experience, and SWTOR's single-player levelling experience is vastly superior. 
• Its Star Wars.  

Greenthingg

3 months in ?  On par.

 

Long term ?  Who knows.

 

But from my own PoV, SWTOR is the better game, the more enjoyable of the two.  Group synergy in SWTOR isn't comparable with the mediocre ESO, as far as classes and roles go, and the flavor of Star Wars is more significative than the Elder scrolls lore any day of the week.  And while I'm more an open world PvPer, I found both PvP systems lacking, but SWTOR has the better of the two.

 

In conclusion, that's just sad for me to say it, both games disapointed me but SWTOR did less.

Lunshea

Originally posted by TheQuietGamer

SWTOR is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out longer and has had a lot of content added.  There are plenty of ways to play.  I would also say that they have eliminated most bugs, but the latest patch undid a lot of that good work.  
• Both are essentially a single-player levelling experience, and SWTOR's single-player levelling experience is vastly superior. 
• Its Star Wars.  

ESO is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out for only two months, and are far superior when it comes to graphics and immersion. 
• Both are essentially single-player experience, but ESO is vastly better due to build diversity (they will fix the staff vs melee imbalance, relax) and real action combat. SWTORs tab-target combat and class/build system is a copy & paste from games like WoW. The SWTOR warrior is a complete WoW warrior ripoff, they some of the spells ^^
• It's Elder Scrolls.

 

heider89

Originally posted by TheQuietGamer

SWTOR is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out longer and has had a lot of content added.  There are plenty of ways to play.  I would also say that they have eliminated most bugs, but the latest patch undid a lot of that good work.  
• Both are essentially a single-player levelling experience, and SWTOR's single-player levelling experience is vastly superior. 
• Its Star Wars.  

i second this

TheQuietGamer

Originally posted by Diablito

Originally posted by TheQuietGamer

SWTOR is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out longer and has had a lot of content added.  There are plenty of ways to play.  I would also say that they have eliminated most bugs, but the latest patch undid a lot of that good work.  
• Both are essentially a single-player levelling experience, and SWTOR's single-player levelling experience is vastly superior. 
• Its Star Wars.  

ESO is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out for only two months, and are far superior when it comes to graphics and immersion. 
• Both are essentially single-player experience, but ESO is vastly better due to build diversity (they will fix the staff vs melee imbalance, relax) and real action combat. SWTORs tab-target combat and class/build system is a copy & paste from games like WoW. The SWTOR warrior is a complete WoW warrior ripoff, they some of the spells ^^
• It's Elder Scrolls.

 

Opinions are like @rseholes; we all have one.  

p4ttythep3rf3ct

To answer OP:  I was still playing SWTOR three months in. 

Arthasm

Both sux IMO, but my vote goes to SWTOR. When I'm bored, sometimes I download SWTOR and playing it. If you really want to try ESO, wait for F2P or buy somewhere for $10.

reemi

I prefer ESO...

Why?, both games quests are well done, but I prefer medieval style, I cannot play a RPG without sword, axes, magic, shield etc... Combat in ESO is more like Skyrim and some people don't like that. (Me I like to play first person). 

I played SWTOR too and it was good, but I prefer ESO.

zevian

I subbed to Swtor for 4 months right after launch, with a couple random months after that.     I played ESO for 5 or 6 days.

 

For me SWTOR was better.   Your results may vary.  

ThomasN7

Neither. Both are bad. Save your money, there is going to be a ton of great non mmo games this September.

SEANMCAD

neither of those games look interesting.

plus I dont play class based games anymore, i have moved on to better plafforms

heider89

played eso for 1 month then got tired

still play swtor after 1 year+

Mors.Magne

I laughed when I read the title of this thread. 

 

Which is the least shit game? SWTOR or ESO?

 

SWTOR has got shitty and un-changing AI.

 

I'd save your money and enjoy the glorious summer sunshine. 

 

Look at lots of E3 videos and then reconsider your options.

jesteralways

Currently SWTOR is doing far better than ESO. yes there have been a setback with 2.8 this tuesday but it has already been fixed today. of course current pace of content release is not what i and many other expect it to be but current end game is totally bug free. and if you wanna talk about swtor's condition on 3rd month of release they had 1.2 million box sale on february 2012. so now do the math. 

JOverlord

I really enjoy how no one read what the OP wrote. About 2 or 3 people.

d_20

Originally posted by JOverlord
I really enjoy how no one read what the OP wrote. About 2 or 3 people.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm going to change the title of the thread.

 

For those of you reading from this point, the original title of the thread was just "SWTOR or ESO?" because I thought people would read the OP. Apparently, a lot of people just read the title, so I've revised it.

 

What I'm after is your thinking about the relative success of these two games just after their respective launches -- by the 3-month mark. We all know a lot of people started calling SWTOR "Tortanic." But that game seems to have stabilized and found its market.

 

Compared to where SWTOR was, how does ESO look as it starts its third month since launch?

BMBender

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Originally posted by d_20

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Originally posted by JOverlord I really enjoy how no one read what the OP wrote. About 2 or 3 people.

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Thanks for pointing that out. I'm going to change the title of the thread.

 

For those of you reading from this point, the original title of the thread was just "SWTOR or ESO?" because I thought people would read the OP. Apparently, a lot of people just read the title, so I've revised it.

 

What I'm after is your thinking about the relative success of these two games just after their respective launches -- by the 3-month mark. We all know a lot of people started calling SWTOR "Tortanic." But that game seems to have stabilized and found its market.

 

Compared to where SWTOR was, how does ESO look as it starts its third month since launch?

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Only my opinion but externally I would say ESO is less exposed than TOR was 3 months in. At the three month mark TOR was still hemorrhaging badly as they were fairly tardy in addressing the "issues" causing the hemorrage. Zen appears to at least be more proactive in addressing concerns.

As far as long term health I expect going forward relatively similar trends for both in regards to % of originally marketed demographics at launch. Both used the splatter pasta on the wall and see what sticks shotgun marketing approach utilizing a popular IP. As such while absolute #'s will probably favor TOR(having a larger IP to leech from) the relative % of respective IP market will probably remain similar imo.

NOTE I'm viewing this from an external viewpoint as I found neither very interesting.

Lunshea

Originally posted by d_20

Originally posted by JOverlord
I really enjoy how no one read what the OP wrote. About 2 or 3 people.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm going to change the title of the thread.

 

For those of you reading from this point, the original title of the thread was just "SWTOR or ESO?" because I thought people would read the OP. Apparently, a lot of people just read the title, so I've revised it.

 

What I'm after is your thinking about the relative success of these two games just after their respective launches -- by the 3-month mark. We all know a lot of people started calling SWTOR "Tortanic." But that game seems to have stabilized and found its market.

 

Compared to where SWTOR was, how does ESO look as it starts its third month since launch?

If you measure success in box sales and subscription numbers, there is no doubt SWTOR wins. That's not strange at all, Star Wars is an enormous IP compared to Elder Scrolls. If SWTOR was Wildstar, not many would have played it now I think Even though Zenimax/Bethesda probably has a reason to feel disappointed about the current state of their game, I'm pretty sure Bioware was even more disappointed at the 3 month mark, though. 

lugal

I would gauge the level of success by the amount of negative posts one would garner. I just get a sense that at the 3 month mark swtor had more negatives. We shall see when the 6 month comes, for that was when things got real negative for swtor.

immodium

Originally posted by TheQuietGamer

Originally posted by Diablito

Originally posted by TheQuietGamer

SWTOR is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out longer and has had a lot of content added.  There are plenty of ways to play.  I would also say that they have eliminated most bugs, but the latest patch undid a lot of that good work.  
• Both are essentially a single-player levelling experience, and SWTOR's single-player levelling experience is vastly superior. 
• Its Star Wars.  

ESO is the far better game, for the following reasons: -

• It has been out for only two months, and are far superior when it comes to graphics and immersion. 
• Both are essentially single-player experience, but ESO is vastly better due to build diversity (they will fix the staff vs melee imbalance, relax) and real action combat. SWTORs tab-target combat and class/build system is a copy & paste from games like WoW. The SWTOR warrior is a complete WoW warrior ripoff, they some of the spells ^^
• It's Elder Scrolls.

 

Opinions are like @rseholes; we all have one.  

And they all stink.

 

In regard to OP. My Experience with ESO has been a lot smoother than SWTOR due to the diabolical state the hero engine was (and still is in some regards). I'd take the minor bugs I faced in ESO over that.

The SWTOR universe/worlds felt a lot more smaller/claustrophobic than ESO so may have given the impression of more players playing. Who knows. Still seems like a lot still play when I occasionally log in (ESO).

cheyane

I think SWTOR definitely. Although I play Wildstar now I am stilled subbed to SWTOR.

Lunshea

I have to add;

I just find it pathetic how much people are concerned about the gaming companies and their economy, how great their game "perform" in sales,  in the press and on metacritcs, how many Twitch streams it got, how many reddit subscribers, facebook likes, Twitter followers and what some fancy popular YouTube reviewer think. People are working overtime playing private detectives to find hidden evidence about a games increase or decrease in overall popularity.

It's like people can't make up a meaning by theirselves. Play the ¤%#"game. Like it? Play some more. Don't like it? Move on!

I played Vanguard Saga of Heroes (RIP) from start to end, it's still my favorite mmo of them all, and the super-small yet dedicated community there was just the best, it gave me the best years I'll ever get in any mmo...if you find THAT game which give you THE immersion, THAT feeling and THE good time; what else matters?

...mainstream bunch of sheep...

*one sillion sighs*