If you worked on the development of the mmo then yes, that was a job as a software/game developer so that definitelly works on a resume.
You are not going to put mmo on a resume because you played it lol. Thats ridiculous.
EDIT: that article says that WoW helped him become COO of Symantec...... Im sure as hell if his resume didnt have all his other work/education listed he would be a peon instead.
Thought this was very interesting...can't say in my line of work it would have helped much (nuclear power plant). But what about you, would you put an mmo on your resume?
Honestly, it's about a .5-1% chance the guy reading the interview will have played or is currently playing World of Warcraft... and I don't know how "playing video games", in this day and age, is going to hurt you on a resume. Besides, if my potential boss turned his nose up at gaming and looked down on me for it, I'd just assume he pass on my resume before the interview and save us both the time - he's probably a tight-ass prick who'd suck to work for.
It is job dependent though. I couldn't see, in my early days, putting an MMO subscription on a resume to a temp agency - I only do a temp agency if I needed money fast, and that's the time you don't take any risks.
If you put any other answer other than "depends on the job", you are wrong.
Example, if you were applying to Blizzard as, say, a customer service rep, it would be a bonus to inform them you have played WoW. Familiarity with a product that the company, you're applying for, is something you want the company to know during the hiring process.
Umm no they are not wrong if they didn't vote what you voted. Granted if you are in a field that you may apply for a job that it could work then yes you would answer the way you think is the only way.
For me for example I have been working in or on equipment for nuclear power plants for over ten years...there is no job I would ever apply for that I would put it on my cv. So no I did not answer depends on the job and no I was not wrong.
The question was would "you" meaning each person has a different situation and therefore there is no right or wrong answer.
Probably not, even if applying for job in the gaming industry (of which I have no experience) I would focus on my project delivery skills rather than my hobbies, which i don't include on my CV.
On the off chance you someday apply for a job in the games industry, change that to a 'probably yes'.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
The guy was hired by Starbucks as the CIO because he put WoW in his résumé. He's now the COO of Symantec.
I wouldn't put an MMO in my résumé if I was applying to flip burgers, but I absolutely would list my years running a guild in WoW that had me planning and orginising activities for a couple hundred people on an almost daily basis; especially if I'm applying for an upper management position that requires you o be able o demonstrate an ability to oversee many people.
Some of you need to get over your insecurities with playing games.
Thought this was very interesting...can't say in my line of work it would have helped much (nuclear power plant). But what about you, would you put an mmo on your resume?
I voted yes but I don't put that I play any particular MMO on my resume. I put that I play massively multiplayer games in the hobbies/interests section. For my line of work it is actually a big plus because it is all about teamwork in order to complete goals, which is exactly what you do in MMOs. Everything is project-based and you have to know your role in that project and how to get it done within a certain amount of time.
Much of our work is often away work so that means a lot of people in my field are gamers. In my small service alone a third of the staff game regularly though I am the only MMORPG player out of all of us.
Really depends on the job. If I was looking to work for a company that makes videogames, then probably yes. If I did that for my resume for my current industry (engineering/IT), my resume would probably get laughed at and tossed, and honestly if I was looking to hire someone in my current industry and they put that on their resume, that resume would get laughed at and tossed.
If you put any other answer other than "depends on the job", you are wrong.
Example, if you were applying to Blizzard as, say, a customer service rep, it would be a bonus to inform them you have played WoW. Familiarity with a product that the company, you're applying for, is something you want the company to know during the hiring process.
Umm no they are not wrong if they didn't vote what you voted. Granted if you are in a field that you may apply for a job that it could work then yes you would answer the way you think is the only way.
For me for example I have been working in or on equipment for nuclear power plants for over ten years...there is no job I would ever apply for that I would put it on my cv. So no I did not answer depends on the job and no I was not wrong.
The question was would "you" meaning each person has a different situation and therefore there is no right or wrong answer.
You tailor your resume to the company you're applying to, if you don't then you're doing it wrong. Hence why the only real correct answer is, "depends on the company".
Interviewer: So, give me an example of when you faced adversity and how you overcome it?
Me: Well, the first time we got to Nefarian in Black Wing Lair back in vanilla World of Warcraft, the fight seemed totally unbeatable. We would wipe constantly, the healers would die quickly and it looked like we'd never get our tier 2 set pieces. But then we decided to keep trying, every day, until we learned the fight. After a couple of weeks of hard work, dedication and persistence, we had our first kill and BWL clear. We were so proud of ourselves!
Interviewer: Really? That's wonderful. My guild never managed to get him down. I'm really impressed, you're hired!
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas Really depends on the job. If I was looking to work for a company that makes videogames, then probably yes. If I did that for my resume for my current industry (engineering/IT), my resume would probably get laughed at and tossed, and honestly if I was looking to hire someone in my current industry and they put that on their resume, that resume would get laughed at and tossed.
The CEO of Starbucks would disagree with you, he hired this guy as the chief information officer because he listed that he ran a guild in WoW.
I think the point of a resume is lost on a lot of people, because its to supposed to be a list of previous jobs.
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas Really depends on the job. If I was looking to work for a company that makes videogames, then probably yes. If I did that for my resume for my current industry (engineering/IT), my resume would probably get laughed at and tossed, and honestly if I was looking to hire someone in my current industry and they put that on their resume, that resume would get laughed at and tossed.
The CEO of Starbucks would disagree with you, he hired this guy as the chief information officer because he listed that he ran a guild in WoW.
I think the point of a resume is lost on a lot of people, because its to supposed to be a list of previous jobs.
If you put any other answer other than "depends on the job", you are wrong.
Example, if you were applying to Blizzard as, say, a customer service rep, it would be a bonus to inform them you have played WoW. Familiarity with a product that the company, you're applying for, is something you want the company to know during the hiring process.
Umm no they are not wrong if they didn't vote what you voted. Granted if you are in a field that you may apply for a job that it could work then yes you would answer the way you think is the only way.
For me for example I have been working in or on equipment for nuclear power plants for over ten years...there is no job I would ever apply for that I would put it on my cv. So no I did not answer depends on the job and no I was not wrong.
The question was would "you" meaning each person has a different situation and therefore there is no right or wrong answer.
You tailor your resume to the company you're applying to, if you don't then you're doing it wrong. Hence why the only real correct answer is, "depends on the company".
Why do some people always treat these forums like they can somehow win them? They are opinions, everyone has one, they don't all have to be the same.
I get so fucking bored of people desperately trying to create an argument out of every bloody post.
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas Really depends on the job. If I was looking to work for a company that makes videogames, then probably yes. If I did that for my resume for my current industry (engineering/IT), my resume would probably get laughed at and tossed, and honestly if I was looking to hire someone in my current industry and they put that on their resume, that resume would get laughed at and tossed.
The CEO of Starbucks would disagree with you, he hired this guy as the chief information officer because he listed that he ran a guild in WoW.
I think the point of a resume is lost on a lot of people, because its to supposed to be a list of previous jobs.
Did you type that our incorrectly?
My iPad and this forum don't play nice together. *it's not supposed...
I wouldn't because I have more important things to put on there and there's not enough room (I try not to go more than one page). But if I was going to I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to mention specifically which game. What if the game you play is WoW and the person that sees your resume is a WoW hater? Haha.
Thought this was very interesting...can't say in my line of work it would have helped much (nuclear power plant). But what about you, would you put an mmo on your resume?
As a small computer / video game store owner I have actually seen a lot of resumes with MMO's and video games in general listed. It is a good idea if you are going into a job where you sell video games or pretty much anywhere in IT since most people in the IT field are big game players.
I usually see it listed on the part of the application where it asks what you did during the gaps in your employment. I had one guy who was unemployed for 5 years and he had listed the MMO's that he played like you normally list a job. He had the name of the MMO, the company that made it, the month/year he started and the month/year he stopped and he listed everything he did in the game just like listing what you do at a job. He noted how many characters he got to end game and any special achievements he did on that character. He even listed why he quit that game and moved to another one.
I saw that he played WoW, EQ2 and LOTRO and I have played those games too so we had a very interesting interview and I hired him because he knew video games and he has been my best video game seller since day one. I also hired him just because he was unique, nobody had every sent me a resume with games listed instead of jobs so I had to give him credit for making his resume stand out above the others. He even listed his skills as Professional Gamer lol. He told me he made end game characters on an account in WoW then sold that account to make money to support his gaming habit. To me that showed that he was resourceful and was a person who could always find a way to get what he wanted.
So I would say yes if you are going into the IT field then list those games because you will probably get interviewed by someone who plays those same games in which case you are going in with an advantage over the other potential employees. If I ever close my business and start doing applications again I am going to dedicate the entire hobby section to all the games I have played just in case I get the HR person who is a gamer.
If you put any other answer other than "depends on the job", you are wrong.
Example, if you were applying to Blizzard as, say, a customer service rep, it would be a bonus to inform them you have played WoW. Familiarity with a product that the company, you're applying for, is something you want the company to know during the hiring process.
Umm no they are not wrong if they didn't vote what you voted. Granted if you are in a field that you may apply for a job that it could work then yes you would answer the way you think is the only way.
For me for example I have been working in or on equipment for nuclear power plants for over ten years...there is no job I would ever apply for that I would put it on my cv. So no I did not answer depends on the job and no I was not wrong.
The question was would "you" meaning each person has a different situation and therefore there is no right or wrong answer.
You tailor your resume to the company you're applying to, if you don't then you're doing it wrong. Hence why the only real correct answer is, "depends on the company".
Why do some people always treat these forums like they can somehow win them? They are opinions, everyone has one, they don't all have to be the same.
I get so fucking bored of people desperately trying to create an argument out of every bloody post.
So obviously the only answer to such transgressions is to show your disgust and add your own opinion, using profanity, to the discussion.
Bravo.
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Originally posted by Quesa
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by Quesa
If you put any other answer other than "depends on the job", you are wrong.
Example, if you were applying to Blizzard as, say, a customer service rep, it would be a bonus to inform them you have played WoW. Familiarity with a product that the company, you're applying for, is something you want the company to know during the hiring process.
Umm no they are not wrong if they didn't vote what you voted. Granted if you are in a field that you may apply for a job that it could work then yes you would answer the way you think is the only way.
For me for example I have been working in or on equipment for nuclear power plants for over ten years...there is no job I would ever apply for that I would put it on my cv. So no I did not answer depends on the job and no I was not wrong.
The question was would "you" meaning each person has a different situation and therefore there is no right or wrong answer.
You tailor your resume to the company you're applying to, if you don't then you're doing it wrong. Hence why the only real correct answer is, "depends on the company".
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You can decide to do whatever you want on your resume, nobody is trying to say that. I'm just saying you would be wrong if you decided to leave out information on your resume that gives you an advantage unless you're trying NOT to get the position.
I know one person who successfully used gaming to get a job, but the context was management, leadership and organization. He successfully parlayed three years of running a large WoW guild into a supervisory position when he had no previous supervisory experience.
The only way I would put anything game related on an application. Would be if I was applying to a guild for an MMO. Real life job? Only if I was planning on not getting the job lol.
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas Really depends on the job. If I was looking to work for a company that makes videogames, then probably yes. If I did that for my resume for my current industry (engineering/IT), my resume would probably get laughed at and tossed, and honestly if I was looking to hire someone in my current industry and they put that on their resume, that resume would get laughed at and tossed.
The CEO of Starbucks would disagree with you, he hired this guy as the chief information officer because he listed that he ran a guild in WoW.
I think the point of a resume is lost on a lot of people, because its to supposed to be a list of previous jobs.
Did you type that our incorrectly?
My iPad and this forum don't play nice together. *it's not supposed...
Honestly I think that CEO had rather limited standards for hiring the guy. If anyone looking to get hired for most if not all of the possible positions in the company I work for put MMO experience on their resume they would literally be a laughing stock. And come on...managing a guild in WoW? That's not even close to as complicated as running a guild in some other MMOs can be, so as laughable as it is to put videogame experience on a non-videogame related resume it isn't even a good example.
I know one person who successfully used gaming to get a job, but the context was management, leadership and organization. He successfully parlayed three years of running a large WoW guild into a supervisory position when he had no previous supervisory experience.
Wow (excuse the pun)...that's just sad.
Going alongside my previous posts, if it was for a position in general management, leadership and organization, there IS in fact one MMO where running a guild is complicated enough and close enough to similar positions in real life that I would consider putting that kind of experience on the corresponding resume a valid one.
It bloody fucking well isn't WoW though. Running a guild in there and all but one of the MMOs I have ever played or heard of (which is a very large number) isn't even remotely close to as complicated as proper management and leadership in a real-life company. The difference is like that between a rowboat and an aircraft carrier.
flight sim. and BF1,2,3,4 is how i got my pilots license flying irl was kinda wonky at first but after learning how to control the airships in BF it became easy
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If you worked on the development of the mmo then yes, that was a job as a software/game developer so that definitelly works on a resume.
You are not going to put mmo on a resume because you played it lol. Thats ridiculous.
EDIT: that article says that WoW helped him become COO of Symantec...... Im sure as hell if his resume didnt have all his other work/education listed he would be a peon instead.
It's a great idea.
Honestly, it's about a .5-1% chance the guy reading the interview will have played or is currently playing World of Warcraft... and I don't know how "playing video games", in this day and age, is going to hurt you on a resume. Besides, if my potential boss turned his nose up at gaming and looked down on me for it, I'd just assume he pass on my resume before the interview and save us both the time - he's probably a tight-ass prick who'd suck to work for.
It is job dependent though. I couldn't see, in my early days, putting an MMO subscription on a resume to a temp agency - I only do a temp agency if I needed money fast, and that's the time you don't take any risks.
No, never. That's like a race car driver putting Mariokart on his resume.
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Was this question really serious?
Umm no they are not wrong if they didn't vote what you voted. Granted if you are in a field that you may apply for a job that it could work then yes you would answer the way you think is the only way.
For me for example I have been working in or on equipment for nuclear power plants for over ten years...there is no job I would ever apply for that I would put it on my cv. So no I did not answer depends on the job and no I was not wrong.
The question was would "you" meaning each person has a different situation and therefore there is no right or wrong answer.
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On the off chance you someday apply for a job in the games industry, change that to a 'probably yes'.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Don't think a lot of people read the article.
The guy was hired by Starbucks as the CIO because he put WoW in his résumé. He's now the COO of Symantec.
I wouldn't put an MMO in my résumé if I was applying to flip burgers, but I absolutely would list my years running a guild in WoW that had me planning and orginising activities for a couple hundred people on an almost daily basis; especially if I'm applying for an upper management position that requires you o be able o demonstrate an ability to oversee many people.
Some of you need to get over your insecurities with playing games.
I voted yes but I don't put that I play any particular MMO on my resume. I put that I play massively multiplayer games in the hobbies/interests section. For my line of work it is actually a big plus because it is all about teamwork in order to complete goals, which is exactly what you do in MMOs. Everything is project-based and you have to know your role in that project and how to get it done within a certain amount of time.
Much of our work is often away work so that means a lot of people in my field are gamers. In my small service alone a third of the staff game regularly though I am the only MMORPG player out of all of us.
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
Where's the any key?
You tailor your resume to the company you're applying to, if you don't then you're doing it wrong. Hence why the only real correct answer is, "depends on the company".
Interviewer: So, give me an example of when you faced adversity and how you overcome it?
Me: Well, the first time we got to Nefarian in Black Wing Lair back in vanilla World of Warcraft, the fight seemed totally unbeatable. We would wipe constantly, the healers would die quickly and it looked like we'd never get our tier 2 set pieces. But then we decided to keep trying, every day, until we learned the fight. After a couple of weeks of hard work, dedication and persistence, we had our first kill and BWL clear. We were so proud of ourselves!
Interviewer: Really? That's wonderful. My guild never managed to get him down. I'm really impressed, you're hired!
...that's how it plays out in my head anyway :P
The CEO of Starbucks would disagree with you, he hired this guy as the chief information officer because he listed that he ran a guild in WoW.
I think the point of a resume is lost on a lot of people, because its to supposed to be a list of previous jobs.
Did you type that our incorrectly?
Why do some people always treat these forums like they can somehow win them? They are opinions, everyone has one, they don't all have to be the same.
I get so fucking bored of people desperately trying to create an argument out of every bloody post.
My iPad and this forum don't play nice together. *it's not supposed...
As a small computer / video game store owner I have actually seen a lot of resumes with MMO's and video games in general listed. It is a good idea if you are going into a job where you sell video games or pretty much anywhere in IT since most people in the IT field are big game players.
I usually see it listed on the part of the application where it asks what you did during the gaps in your employment. I had one guy who was unemployed for 5 years and he had listed the MMO's that he played like you normally list a job. He had the name of the MMO, the company that made it, the month/year he started and the month/year he stopped and he listed everything he did in the game just like listing what you do at a job. He noted how many characters he got to end game and any special achievements he did on that character. He even listed why he quit that game and moved to another one.
I saw that he played WoW, EQ2 and LOTRO and I have played those games too so we had a very interesting interview and I hired him because he knew video games and he has been my best video game seller since day one. I also hired him just because he was unique, nobody had every sent me a resume with games listed instead of jobs so I had to give him credit for making his resume stand out above the others. He even listed his skills as Professional Gamer lol. He told me he made end game characters on an account in WoW then sold that account to make money to support his gaming habit. To me that showed that he was resourceful and was a person who could always find a way to get what he wanted.
So I would say yes if you are going into the IT field then list those games because you will probably get interviewed by someone who plays those same games in which case you are going in with an advantage over the other potential employees. If I ever close my business and start doing applications again I am going to dedicate the entire hobby section to all the games I have played just in case I get the HR person who is a gamer.
So obviously the only answer to such transgressions is to show your disgust and add your own opinion, using profanity, to the discussion.
Bravo.
You can decide to do whatever you want on your resume, nobody is trying to say that. I'm just saying you would be wrong if you decided to leave out information on your resume that gives you an advantage unless you're trying NOT to get the position.
I know one person who successfully used gaming to get a job, but the context was management, leadership and organization. He successfully parlayed three years of running a large WoW guild into a supervisory position when he had no previous supervisory experience.
Honestly I think that CEO had rather limited standards for hiring the guy. If anyone looking to get hired for most if not all of the possible positions in the company I work for put MMO experience on their resume they would literally be a laughing stock. And come on...managing a guild in WoW? That's not even close to as complicated as running a guild in some other MMOs can be, so as laughable as it is to put videogame experience on a non-videogame related resume it isn't even a good example.
Where's the any key?
Only if for a job where it might be relevant ie. applying for job as a GM at Blizzard or as an MMO developer.
Wow (excuse the pun)...that's just sad.
Going alongside my previous posts, if it was for a position in general management, leadership and organization, there IS in fact one MMO where running a guild is complicated enough and close enough to similar positions in real life that I would consider putting that kind of experience on the corresponding resume a valid one.
It bloody fucking well isn't WoW though. Running a guild in there and all but one of the MMOs I have ever played or heard of (which is a very large number) isn't even remotely close to as complicated as proper management and leadership in a real-life company. The difference is like that between a rowboat and an aircraft carrier.
Take a guess which MMO is the one that's valid.
Where's the any key?
i voted yes
flight sim. and BF1,2,3,4 is how i got my pilots license flying irl was kinda wonky at first but after learning how to control the airships in BF it became easy
What'd you do grind level 5 boars all day every day?