1.) You weren't using the authenticator and as such got hacked and banned.
2.) You were botting whether afk bot or other means and got banned for it.
3.) You found an exploit and exploited it.
4.) You were accidentally banned, something that is extremely unlikely.
I'd assume likely 1 or 2. Spamming messages for this is useless, either way it is YOUR fault. Reusing the same password for everything isn't good, and if you are botting, well then I don't think anyone alive would be against your banning.
They could have been banned accidentally but either way it's still their fault?
1.) You weren't using the authenticator and as such got hacked and banned.
2.) You were botting whether afk bot or other means and got banned for it.
3.) You found an exploit and exploited it.
4.) You were accidentally banned, something that is extremely unlikely.
I'd assume likely 1 or 2. Spamming messages for this is useless, either way it is YOUR fault. Reusing the same password for everything isn't good, and if you are botting, well then I don't think anyone alive would be against your banning.
They could have been banned accidentally but either way it's still their fault?
Welcome to MMORPG.com forums, where you're guilty until you give up trying to prove yourself innocent and just slit your wrists.
No disabled features. Only running a few add-ons. All of them where downloaded from Curse.
Only thing I can figure is maybe Adware by lavasoft - it keeps flipping my screen and telling me I need to update it -- but that happens periodically -- like once or twice an hour.
I just did a virus check and adware -- nothing.
If you want I can tell if you post a Screen shot of your Processes running in task manager and services at start up.
1. Win Key + R, then type mspaint, leave that open to paste images into
2. Win Key + R, then type msconfig, click on startup tab and alt+print screen it then ctrl+v it into MS Paint
3. Win Key + R, then type taskmgr, click on processes tab and alt+print screen that ctrl+v it into MS Paint
Then post it to image shack or whatever floats your boat for image hosting and let me have a quick look, might spot something out of the norm that you silly software didn't.
Here is mine for example:
The screenshot you posted doesn't show all of your processes. The button in the bottom left, which says "show processes from all users" is something you clearly missed.
Also, malware is advanced enough that some are able to hide from showing up in task manager. So, that's not a foolproof method of finding something on your computer.
Virus scanners are worthless. They catch maybe half of what is out there.
No disabled features. Only running a few add-ons. All of them where downloaded from Curse.
Only thing I can figure is maybe Adware by lavasoft - it keeps flipping my screen and telling me I need to update it -- but that happens periodically -- like once or twice an hour.
I just did a virus check and adware -- nothing.
If you want I can tell if you post a Screen shot of your Processes running in task manager and services at start up.
1. Win Key + R, then type mspaint, leave that open to paste images into
2. Win Key + R, then type msconfig, click on startup tab and alt+print screen it then ctrl+v it into MS Paint
3. Win Key + R, then type taskmgr, click on processes tab and alt+print screen that ctrl+v it into MS Paint
Then post it to image shack or whatever floats your boat for image hosting and let me have a quick look, might spot something out of the norm that you silly software didn't.
Here is mine for example:
The screenshot you posted doesn't show all of your processes. The button in the bottom left, which says "show processes from all users" is something you clearly missed.
Also, malware is advanced enough that some are able to hide from showing up in task manager. So, that's not a foolproof method of finding something on your computer.
Virus scanners are worthless. They catch maybe half of what is out there.
1.) You weren't using the authenticator and as such got hacked and banned.
2.) You were botting whether afk bot or other means and got banned for it.
3.) You found an exploit and exploited it.
4.) You were accidentally banned, something that is extremely unlikely.
I'd assume likely 1 or 2. Spamming messages for this is useless, either way it is YOUR fault. Reusing the same password for everything isn't good, and if you are botting, well then I don't think anyone alive would be against your banning.
They could have been banned accidentally but either way it's still their fault?
Welcome to MMORPG.com forums, where you're guilty until you give up trying to prove yourself innocent and just slit your wrists.
What happens if everyone says he's innocent ? Is there singing, trumpets ?
Had the game since Friday. Played it about 10 - 15 hours. I got two characters up to level 10. I've been exploiting? This company is insane with an out of control ban stick. I am seriously PO'd.
isn't that what you pay for in a sub game?
Getting rid of the cheaters and the riffraff etc?
All signs of a well run game.
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
1.) You weren't using the authenticator and as such got hacked and banned.
2.) You were botting whether afk bot or other means and got banned for it.
3.) You found an exploit and exploited it.
4.) You were accidentally banned, something that is extremely unlikely.
I'd assume likely 1 or 2. Spamming messages for this is useless, either way it is YOUR fault. Reusing the same password for everything isn't good, and if you are botting, well then I don't think anyone alive would be against your banning.
They could have been banned accidentally but either way it's still their fault?
Welcome to MMORPG.com forums, where you're guilty until you give up trying to prove yourself innocent and just slit your wrists.
What happens if everyone says he's innocent ? Is there singing, trumpets ?
Or does the same thing happen either way.
If everyone on THIS SITE said he was innocent, the rapture would start.
if not you may have been hacked and carbines policy like or not is compromised/botted accounts are locked until they are secured again, its part of the ban-hammer they have been using
There are countless threads on the Wildstar forums of people who have been hacked and banned and all of them do not use the two-step verification ( similar to WoW's ) where as there are NO hacked accounts that use the 2 step.
Its something Carbine has been promoting from before release even give you a exp boost when you have it. When you login its there before you enter world....
I agree. This should be the norm and mandatory now. It takes an extra 10 seconds at the most to use googles authenticator. I'll take the extra xp, but this shouldn't be necessary imho. If a company offers a simple solution to keep accounts safe you should take it. If everyone would do it then botters would have less reason to ruin games.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I was stupid and didn't use 2-step authentication because I had never been hacked before. I caught it quickly as it was kicking me off when the hacker was logging in. I didn't catch it the first time because I just assumed the servers went down so I took my dog out to pee. Came back and it let me log it but I noticed that some things were different and that I was missing stuff so I submitted a "missing items" ticket. About five minutes later I got kicked off again and I read the DC message that said something like "Someone else is trying to log in to your account." So I changed my password and submitted another ticket stating that I had been hacked. I took several steps to secure my account to their satisfaction and they moved my ticket along for possible item restoration. That was eleven days ago. Today I was banned for third party exploits, which I can only assume is from the period of time in which I was compromised.
So, yeah. It sucks. You would think there was some kind of cross reference between tickets and bans.
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Another thread with minimal information by the Op.
First question is the definition of banned, since the internet has twisted the meaning over the years.
So were you "banned" as in permanent account closure, or do you actually mean "suspended" as in a temporary stop pending an investigation.
Can you access the official forums? Did make a post there? Have you created a support ticket?
Did you actually read the official post, where they said some legitimate players could get caught up in there big bans on bots, and they would un-ban them as quickly as they could?
Were you afking in battlegrounds?
You made reference to exploiting in your post, apparently that was what they accused you of? Did you try to do some exploits you saw in a video or on a forum post?
What addons specifically did you use, maybe one of them causes a false indication?
If you just wanted to post a complain post.....uh ok, sure...if you really want assistance then you need more than 2 lines, otherwise nobody cares, its not our money if you want to just give up.
^This pretty much says it all; red emphasizes the real sentiment. With all the bottling and shenanigans that the player base have been complaining about, I'm glad ban's and account perma-bans are coming out. I get the feeling that Carbine is adopting the "Don't Mess with Nexus" moniker.
Most of you can bite me. I did not exploit. I've never exploited. Been playing MMOs and Muds since 1996. I've played most every MMO out there. Never run a 3rd party program in my life or otherwise played unfairly.
I will answer a few questions for the sake that they were reasonable:
So were you "banned" as in permanent account closure, or do you actually mean "suspended" as in a temporary stop pending an investigation.
- IDK for certain. It says suspended when I try to log in. I have received no email to go with that. I did receive an email that my subscription was canceled. I have tried to resubscribe and it tells me my account is suspended.
OP did you have the 2-step authenticator?
- No. Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now). If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!
Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this one. Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker? I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother.
As to asking for help? I really didn't other then to find out if others are having same issue.
Wildstar's excuse for not replying within the promised time limit? IDK -- no REPLY!!!!
I contacted Paypal for a refund. I am down with a company that acts in this way. I guess that means I am down with a few other NCSOFT games as well.
- No. Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now). If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!
Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this one. Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker? I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother.
They bother. They bother a lot.
So, basically, you didn't take any personal responsibility to protect your own account, even though they even offer you an XP incentive to do it, and now when things go wrong, it is someone else's fault?
- No. Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now). If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!
Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this one. Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker? I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother.
They bother. They bother a lot.
So, basically, you didn't take any personal responsibility to protect your own account, even though they even offer you an XP incentive to do it, and now when things go wrong, it is someone else's fault?
I don't feel sorry for you, at all.
no, no, no no no...you dont have the slightest clue as to what went on with this guy, so you have absolutely no place to sit there and tell him acct security on his end was lacking and that it was his fault.
the only people who know what went on here, if it wasnt him, is carbine. so dont even pretend youre gonna act all high n mighty thinking you can pin someone to the wall with no facts and just your bullsh*t.
Except that he just OPENLY ADMITTED that account security on his end was lacking.
Do try to pay attention before you go on a rant about someone ELSE not having any facts.
Originally posted by flizzer I never understood this add-on business. I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility. I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game.
This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.
I heard they are reserving the right to ban any accounts that may have given away a game key that was used to bot/exploit and resulted in that key getting banned. So if you gave a key out online to a random person, maybe they got banned and this is the ripple effect. Otherwise I have no idea.
Originally posted by flizzer I never understood this add-on business. I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility. I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game.
This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.
The game is set up specifically for use with addons.
In fact, most of the base UI elements and whatnot are addons written by Carbine.
Originally posted by flizzer I never understood this add-on business. I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility. I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game.
This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.
WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them.
As I said before, imho the 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by flizzer I never understood this add-on business. I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility. I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game.
This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.
WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them.
As I said before, imho he 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.
Wildstar requires add-ons to correct shit design imo. It needs JunkIt, Improved Preview, anything to improve the awful quest list. It really also needs add-ons to remove the god-awful clusterfuck pvp and tedious generic, dated questing.
Plus, Wildstar has apparently embraced add-ons. They gotta police them if they allow people to use them. And by policing them I do not mean arbitrarily getting out the ban hammer.
Originally posted by flizzer I never understood this add-on business. I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility. I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game.
This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.
WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them.
As I said before, imho he 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.
Agree 100%
Plus the 2 step authenticator is a very secure, free, accessible by anyone as it has platforms for android phones, pc windows etc and you even get a small ingame reward by activating it.
I really cant understand why some ppl risk with their accounts and they don't use the authenticator...
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Originally posted by flizzer I never understood this add-on business. I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility. I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game.
This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.
WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them.
As I said before, imho he 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.
Wildstar requires add-ons to correct shit design imo. It needs JunkIt, Improved Preview, anything to improve the awful quest list. It really also needs add-ons to remove the god-awful clusterfuck pvp and tedious generic, dated questing.
Plus, Wildstar has apparently embraced add-ons. They gotta police them if they allow people to use them. And by policing them I do not mean arbitrarily getting out the ban hammer.
Your first paragraph is you opinion and I really can't address that. To me it is perfectly fine. /shrug
Addons aren't the issue here though. The issue is the ops account was banned. IMHO if addons were so malicious they wouldn't be allowed at all. "The Ban Hammer" happens with every new release, because folks use credentials from other games on new ones.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
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They could have been banned accidentally but either way it's still their fault?
Welcome to MMORPG.com forums, where you're guilty until you give up trying to prove yourself innocent and just slit your wrists.
The screenshot you posted doesn't show all of your processes. The button in the bottom left, which says "show processes from all users" is something you clearly missed.
Also, malware is advanced enough that some are able to hide from showing up in task manager. So, that's not a foolproof method of finding something on your computer.
Virus scanners are worthless. They catch maybe half of what is out there.
http://dottech.org/157355/symantec-admits-anti-virus-software-is-no-longer-effective-at-stoping-virus-attacks/
There are easier ways to "look" for malware. Use HijackThis and post the logs somewhere.
well, to be honest.... symantec was never good at doing anything, so they hardly have the rep to speak for the entire industry.
What happens if everyone says he's innocent ? Is there singing, trumpets ?
Or does the same thing happen either way.
isn't that what you pay for in a sub game?
Getting rid of the cheaters and the riffraff etc?
All signs of a well run game.
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
If everyone on THIS SITE said he was innocent, the rapture would start.
I agree. This should be the norm and mandatory now. It takes an extra 10 seconds at the most to use googles authenticator. I'll take the extra xp, but this shouldn't be necessary imho. If a company offers a simple solution to keep accounts safe you should take it. If everyone would do it then botters would have less reason to ruin games.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I was stupid and didn't use 2-step authentication because I had never been hacked before. I caught it quickly as it was kicking me off when the hacker was logging in. I didn't catch it the first time because I just assumed the servers went down so I took my dog out to pee. Came back and it let me log it but I noticed that some things were different and that I was missing stuff so I submitted a "missing items" ticket. About five minutes later I got kicked off again and I read the DC message that said something like "Someone else is trying to log in to your account." So I changed my password and submitted another ticket stating that I had been hacked. I took several steps to secure my account to their satisfaction and they moved my ticket along for possible item restoration. That was eleven days ago. Today I was banned for third party exploits, which I can only assume is from the period of time in which I was compromised.
So, yeah. It sucks. You would think there was some kind of cross reference between tickets and bans.
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!
^This pretty much says it all; red emphasizes the real sentiment. With all the bottling and shenanigans that the player base have been complaining about, I'm glad ban's and account perma-bans are coming out. I get the feeling that Carbine is adopting the "Don't Mess with Nexus" moniker.
Most of you can bite me. I did not exploit. I've never exploited. Been playing MMOs and Muds since 1996. I've played most every MMO out there. Never run a 3rd party program in my life or otherwise played unfairly.
I will answer a few questions for the sake that they were reasonable:
So were you "banned" as in permanent account closure, or do you actually mean "suspended" as in a temporary stop pending an investigation.
- IDK for certain. It says suspended when I try to log in. I have received no email to go with that. I did receive an email that my subscription was canceled. I have tried to resubscribe and it tells me my account is suspended.
OP did you have the 2-step authenticator?
- No. Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now). If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!
Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this one. Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker? I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother.
As to asking for help? I really didn't other then to find out if others are having same issue.
Wildstar's excuse for not replying within the promised time limit? IDK -- no REPLY!!!!
I contacted Paypal for a refund. I am down with a company that acts in this way. I guess that means I am down with a few other NCSOFT games as well.
They bother. They bother a lot.
So, basically, you didn't take any personal responsibility to protect your own account, even though they even offer you an XP incentive to do it, and now when things go wrong, it is someone else's fault?
I don't feel sorry for you, at all.
just wait it will get better...do what this guy does and just wait
Except that he just OPENLY ADMITTED that account security on his end was lacking.
Do try to pay attention before you go on a rant about someone ELSE not having any facts.
This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.
The game is set up specifically for use with addons.
In fact, most of the base UI elements and whatnot are addons written by Carbine.
Addons aren't the issue here.
WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them.
As I said before, imho the 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Wildstar requires add-ons to correct shit design imo. It needs JunkIt, Improved Preview, anything to improve the awful quest list. It really also needs add-ons to remove the god-awful clusterfuck pvp and tedious generic, dated questing.
Plus, Wildstar has apparently embraced add-ons. They gotta police them if they allow people to use them. And by policing them I do not mean arbitrarily getting out the ban hammer.
Agree 100%
Plus the 2 step authenticator is a very secure, free, accessible by anyone as it has platforms for android phones, pc windows etc and you even get a small ingame reward by activating it.
I really cant understand why some ppl risk with their accounts and they don't use the authenticator...
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Playing Now: WoW, ESO, GW2
Your first paragraph is you opinion and I really can't address that. To me it is perfectly fine. /shrug
Addons aren't the issue here though. The issue is the ops account was banned. IMHO if addons were so malicious they wouldn't be allowed at all. "The Ban Hammer" happens with every new release, because folks use credentials from other games on new ones.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.