Makes sense. Still no options though not that I've seen. There's the Flex if it closed all the way I would have asked about it. I've seen a few that reverse close but all seem to be Intel atm. Which sucks (that there is a lack of AMD options).
Vrika raises some good points. If you're planning on holding the tablet in your hands or resting it in your lap or some such as you use it, you might well regret a bigger, heavier tablet. If you've got a nice place to mount it, it's fine.
Second, just because software is available for Windows doesn't automatically mean that you can do much with it on a tablet. If you can play a game using just a mouse and not the keyboard, you can probably play it on a tablet just as well, unless you need very precise mouse controls. But if you really need a keyboard, it might be awkward or basically unplayable on a tablet. If you're going to plug in an external keyboard, you might as well just get a simple laptop.
With Android, by contrast, virtually all software is meant to be used with a touch screen on a cell phone or tablet and not need a keyboard. A lot of the games that you might want to play are available for Windows but not Android. But a lot of those games might not be playable on a Windows tablet, either.
Vrika raises some good points. If you're planning on holding the tablet in your hands or resting it in your lap or some such as you use it, you might well regret a bigger, heavier tablet. If you've got a nice place to mount it, it's fine.
Second, just because software is available for Windows doesn't automatically mean that you can do much with it on a tablet. If you can play a game using just a mouse and not the keyboard, you can probably play it on a tablet just as well, unless you need very precise mouse controls. But if you really need a keyboard, it might be awkward or basically unplayable on a tablet. If you're going to plug in an external keyboard, you might as well just get a simple laptop.
With Android, by contrast, virtually all software is meant to be used with a touch screen on a cell phone or tablet and not need a keyboard. A lot of the games that you might want to play are available for Windows but not Android. But a lot of those games might not be playable on a Windows tablet, either.
That he most certainly did. Make a good case that is. I think it needs to at least fold closed with the screen facing outwards. So 100% ok with that as long as it meets that criteria at this point. I haven't found any AMD options like that. Plenty of Intels.
If I go with a Android I might as well wait for the next Tegra to release. Which is kind of crazy how fast they seem to be releasing. I haven't done much reading on the chip but I understand a bit better what it is.
Edit: I'd really like to say that everyone's really helped me get a better grasp on what I want. I had just kind of started looking when I made the initial post. I've been at it reading and learning all morning afternoon. It does suck that it looks like I have to play the waiting game. That said Thank You everyone!
Go to a shop. Play around with tablets and smartphones.
Browse through the Android, WIndows and iOS interfaces. See what they feel like.
If you want to, make an idiot out of yourself and generally be a pain to the staff by asking them loads of questions and asking if they can show you a game on each. See how it plays if they allow you to.
Don't buy anything just yet. Wait a day. Afterwards, go to a shop again and have a second look. If the staff haven't killed you by now, you can actually buy something.
Right now, you are trying to buy something you don't really have an idea about. It's not smart since no amount of research is going to make up for first hand experience.
I recently bought a monitor. I went to the shop, looked at the colours on them. I poked each to see how it wobbles. I looked at them, to see if they really do look like on photos. I also had a look at contrast and refresh rates, and if I can even tell apart a "good" contrast from a "bad" contrast monitor. Helped loads to make up my mind and get something that is good FOR ME, without overpaying.
Originally posted by nethaniah
Seriously Farmville? Yeah I think it's great. In a World where half our population is dying of hunger the more fortunate half is spending their time harvesting food that doesn't exist.
Vrika raises some good points. If you're planning on holding the tablet in your hands or resting it in your lap or some such as you use it, you might well regret a bigger, heavier tablet. If you've got a nice place to mount it, it's fine.
Second, just because software is available for Windows doesn't automatically mean that you can do much with it on a tablet. If you can play a game using just a mouse and not the keyboard, you can probably play it on a tablet just as well, unless you need very precise mouse controls. But if you really need a keyboard, it might be awkward or basically unplayable on a tablet. If you're going to plug in an external keyboard, you might as well just get a simple laptop.
With Android, by contrast, virtually all software is meant to be used with a touch screen on a cell phone or tablet and not need a keyboard. A lot of the games that you might want to play are available for Windows but not Android. But a lot of those games might not be playable on a Windows tablet, either.
That he most certainly did. Make a good case that is. I think it needs to at least fold closed with the screen facing outwards. So 100% ok with that as long as it meets that criteria at this point. I haven't found any AMD options like that. Plenty of Intels.
If I go with a Android I might as well wait for the next Tegra to release. Which is kind of crazy how fast they seem to be releasing. I haven't done much reading on the chip but I understand a bit better what it is.
Edit: I'd really like to say that everyone's really helped me get a better grasp on what I want. I had just kind of started looking when I made the initial post. I've been at it reading and learning all morning afternoon. It does suck that it looks like I have to play the waiting game. That said Thank You everyone!
If you're finding a lot of Intel Haswell stuff, that's because Intel subsidizes the creation of such devices.
The next Tegra will be basically the same CPU that you can get today, but with a Kepler GPU. That's a single Kepler SMX, so it's GeForce 600 series architecture, but will of course be much slower than the discrete cards. The Tegra after that will have the same GPU, but be a dual core rather than quad core with two presumably more powerful cores of Nvidia's custom ARM architecture. If you want to wait for that one, you'll probably be waiting until next year.
But part of the problem with waiting is, even once the hardware launches, you still have to wait for vendors to make the tablet you want. If you want a 19" tablet based on a new generation Tegra, there's no guarantee that you'll get it by the end of this year--or by the end of next year, for that matter.
I recently bought a monitor. I went to the shop, looked at the colours on them. I poked each to see how it wobbles. I looked at them, to see if they really do look like on photos. I also had a look at contrast and refresh rates, and if I can even tell apart a "good" contrast from a "bad" contrast monitor. Helped loads to make up my mind and get something that is good FOR ME, without overpaying.
That's great for monitors, keyboards, and mice. But it's no way to judge other internal hardware in a computer.
Go to a shop. Play around with tablets and smartphones.
Browse through the Android, WIndows and iOS interfaces. See what they feel like.
If you want to, make an idiot out of yourself and generally be a pain to the staff by asking them loads of questions and asking if they can show you a game on each. See how it plays if they allow you to.
Don't buy anything just yet. Wait a day. Afterwards, go to a shop again and have a second look. If the staff haven't killed you by now, you can actually buy something.
Right now, you are trying to buy something you don't really have an idea about. It's not smart since no amount of research is going to make up for first hand experience.
I recently bought a monitor. I went to the shop, looked at the colours on them. I poked each to see how it wobbles. I looked at them, to see if they really do look like on photos. I also had a look at contrast and refresh rates, and if I can even tell apart a "good" contrast from a "bad" contrast monitor. Helped loads to make up my mind and get something that is good FOR ME, without overpaying.
Maybe after I understand what hardware and there's products that I know of on the market that meet the criteria. Yes it's evolved since the initial post but that's expected especially after the information I have been given or aspects I didn't think about. The whole purpose here.
I have likely gotten more help here and given things to consider in half a day than I would in 20 visits to some place like Best Buy.
I recently bought a monitor. I went to the shop, looked at the colours on them. I poked each to see how it wobbles. I looked at them, to see if they really do look like on photos. I also had a look at contrast and refresh rates, and if I can even tell apart a "good" contrast from a "bad" contrast monitor. Helped loads to make up my mind and get something that is good FOR ME, without overpaying.
That's great for monitors, keyboards, and mice. But it's no way to judge other internal hardware in a computer.
Dam you actually beat me to it. lol.
NM guess it was there awhile and just didn't see it.
Think I might take a break for the day. My brains pretty much Jello at this point. Everyone's been awesome. I can read up some more on Tegra's and come back if I have questions. I can't really do much more as far as asking about tech until I see something from AMD that I want at this point.
I recently bought a monitor. I went to the shop, looked at the colours on them. I poked each to see how it wobbles. I looked at them, to see if they really do look like on photos. I also had a look at contrast and refresh rates, and if I can even tell apart a "good" contrast from a "bad" contrast monitor. Helped loads to make up my mind and get something that is good FOR ME, without overpaying.
That's great for monitors, keyboards, and mice. But it's no way to judge other internal hardware in a computer.
Oh, i understand that. At the same time though, there's no way to judge if holding a heavy tablet is feels comfortable to you from posts on an internet forum. Same with interfaces, it's an individual matter which one is more intuitive and natural.
Originally posted by nethaniah
Seriously Farmville? Yeah I think it's great. In a World where half our population is dying of hunger the more fortunate half is spending their time harvesting food that doesn't exist.
If I go with a A10 7400P laptop is there any downside to that vs. the more currently common 5750 I see everywhere? Both are same wattage. I imagine with a better APU the 7400P would get a little warmer? Maybe even shorter battery life depending on what the manufacturer uses?
Edit: I guess if I got that might as well go on and waot for somethign with the FX - 7600P.
That's a Kaveri laptop rather than Beema/Mullins. That means it's much higher power, but also much higher performance. That performance does come at a price, however: heavy gaming loads on the battery might well drain the battery in an hour or so.
The A10-5750M that you found is the top bin of Richland, which is AMD's previous generation APU. The A10-7400P is substantially better than it at basically everything, as a result of a better CPU architecture, a better GPU architecture, and a better process node. They'll use about the same power at load, but the latter will give substantially better performance while using that power.
It's worth noting that the A10-7400P is not the top bin of Kaveri. Rather, it disables 1/4 of the GPU and clocks the CPU a little lower. The top bin is the FX-7600P.
If you want to play games on integrated graphics, it's worth noting that the memory configuration is important. You want properly matched memory channels, as mismatching them might dock your performance by 5% or 10% or so. Leaving a memory channel vacant entirely will hurt your performance a lot worse than that. You probably want 8 GB of memory if going that route, configured as two 4 GB modules. 6 GB is guaranteed to be mismatched, and 4 GB will tend to be one 4 GB module and one channel vacant. Even 8 GB could be a single 8 GB module and an empty channel depending on how evil a vendor wants to be, but I wouldn't expect that to be all that common.
With Beema/Mullins or last generation Kabini/Temash, it's easier to get matched memory channels precisely because there's only one channel. Thus, one module by itself is fine, as is two modules of the same capacity. Two modules of different capacities will manage to mess things up, though.
It's also worth noting that if a laptop comes with mismatched memory channels, you can probably fix it yourself by buying memory modules and adding or replacing one.
The latter is a lower clocked, lower performance version that will cap power usage at 19 W rather than 35 W. That could allow for better battery life under gaming loads, but in this case, Lenovo decided to just give it a tiny battery instead.
Has anyone heard anything about the A 10 micro. When it might be hitting shelves in a tablet? Think Windows 8 tablet is the way I am going to go. I don't see any new pages in searches. Though I don't know where all to look for information, rumors or whatever. Definitely going to be parting ways with my desktop. :S Just a big life change incoming and I have until Aug before I really need to have my shit together.
That can flip the monitor around to lay flat on top of the keyboard, so it can be used like a tablet. A very thick and heavy tablet, but still. It's also 13", and a monitor resolution of 1366x768. But it does have the top bin of Beema in it, so it will run nearly any games on the market, though often only at low to moderate graphical settings.
That can flip the monitor around to lay flat on top of the keyboard, so it can be used like a tablet. A very thick and heavy tablet, but still. It's also 13", and a monitor resolution of 1366x768. But it does have the top bin of Beema in it, so it will run nearly any games on the market, though often only at low to moderate graphical settings.
Interested in the second one at this point. I guess I would need to get the 6gb option for 2 dimm's? Would really like the a10 micro. Time doesn't seem to be on my side at this point. yuck. Thank You Quizzical.
That can flip the monitor around to lay flat on top of the keyboard, so it can be used like a tablet. A very thick and heavy tablet, but still. It's also 13", and a monitor resolution of 1366x768. But it does have the top bin of Beema in it, so it will run nearly any games on the market, though often only at low to moderate graphical settings.
Interested in the second one at this point. I guess I would need to get the 6gb option for 2 dimm's? Would really like the a10 micro. Time doesn't seem to be on my side at this point. yuck. Thank You Quizzical.
No. Beema/Mullins has only a single memory channel. With a much weaker CPU and GPU than desktops typically have, it doesn't need as much memory bandwidth. Having only a single memory channel helps keep both costs and power consumption down.
Furthermore, using 6 GB of memory means that you'll mismatch the two memory modules, as one will be 4 GB and the other 2 GB. That will hurt your memory bandwidth. The reasonable amounts of memory to get are 4 GB or 8 GB.
Be warned that the A8-6410 is a 15 W chip, not 4.5 W like the A10 Micro-6700T. That allows it to clock much higher, but also means that you won't get that much battery life under gaming loads.
That can flip the monitor around to lay flat on top of the keyboard, so it can be used like a tablet. A very thick and heavy tablet, but still. It's also 13", and a monitor resolution of 1366x768. But it does have the top bin of Beema in it, so it will run nearly any games on the market, though often only at low to moderate graphical settings.
Interested in the second one at this point. I guess I would need to get the 6gb option for 2 dimm's? Would really like the a10 micro. Time doesn't seem to be on my side at this point. yuck. Thank You Quizzical.
No. Beema/Mullins has only a single memory channel. With a much weaker CPU and GPU than desktops typically have, it doesn't need as much memory bandwidth. Having only a single memory channel helps keep both costs and power consumption down.
Furthermore, using 6 GB of memory means that you'll mismatch the two memory modules, as one will be 4 GB and the other 2 GB. That will hurt your memory bandwidth. The reasonable amounts of memory to get are 4 GB or 8 GB.
Be warned that the A8-6410 is a 15 W chip, not 4.5 W like the A10 Micro-6700T. That allows it to clock much higher, but also means that you won't get that much battery life under gaming loads.
Oh ok. Sorry I didn't do a lot of self research. I got a lot dumped on me this morning. crazy day. exciting but crazy. Thank You
Can't say I understand why that ones so much cheaper than the others listed with smaller ssd's. Think I am just looking for anything mobile at this point to moderately game on. Maybe waiting for the FX 7600P to show up in some products. Really curious what type of price range those will be in. I just thought those were neat. First time that I've seen them.
Its still a small tablet and I am pretty sure a few of those numbers are a bit exaggerated. Its a core i7 tablet with a discrete GPU meaning there is no way its getting 4 hours of solid use without a 6 cell battery. Chances are the battery in this is much smaller. The discrete GPU is also not much of a GPU. Its barely better than the HD4000 its substituting for. The NVidia GTS 640 is one step up from integrated graphics. The 640m is a mobile chip that is not comparable to integrated graphics. Its actually a pretty worthless discrete GPU in my opinion. You would get better performance out of a laptop APU stuck in there and probably have better battery life to boot.
The only Mullins based tablet I have seen is the AMD reference design in a 10" form factor. I haven't actually heard any news from other OEMs if they will bring them to market. Usually you hear something about 3 months before they send them out, and there was no news as CES. The reference was out in January so their should have been something in the pipes by now. MSI would more than likely be bringing one to market. I also don't think you will be seeing these in a 15" form factor. More than likely they will hover around 10".
You can probably find a 15" convertible touchscreen laptop like a Tablet PC. The problem with some of the ones I have seen is that they make it difficult to use them purely as a tablet.
Its still a small tablet and I am pretty sure a few of those numbers are a bit exaggerated. Its a core i7 tablet with a discrete GPU meaning there is no way its getting 4 hours of solid use without a 6 cell battery. Chances are the battery in this is much smaller. The discrete GPU is also not much of a GPU. Its barely better than the HD4000 its substituting for. The NVidia GTS 640 is one step up from integrated graphics. The 640m is a mobile chip that is not comparable to integrated graphics. Its actually a pretty worthless discrete GPU in my opinion. You would get better performance out of a laptop APU stuck in there and probably have better battery life to boot.
The only Mullins based tablet I have seen is the AMD reference design in a 10" form factor. I haven't actually heard any news from other OEMs if they will bring them to market. Usually you hear something about 3 months before they send them out, and there was no news as CES. The reference was out in January so their should have been something in the pipes by now. MSI would more than likely be bringing one to market. I also don't think you will be seeing these in a 15" form factor. More than likely they will hover around 10".
You can probably find a 15" convertible touchscreen laptop like a Tablet PC. The problem with some of the ones I have seen is that they make it difficult to use them purely as a tablet.
Yeah I know the gpu wasn't anything special. I just thought it was neat that all that was in such a tiny package. Don't know that I am interested in it at current price. $800 ish and I would have probably slept on it and gave it serious consideration. I've done that a few times now with a given product. The other stuff for it was really pricey as well and that turned me off of it kind of. Couldn't even find a keyboard dock for it.
I'm pretty much over all the original stuff I was looking for. Touchscreen is nice. other than that trying to find something that can moderately game most stuff at a good price. Why the FX-7600P really interests me.
Can't say I understand why that ones so much cheaper than the others listed with smaller ssd's. Think I am just looking for anything mobile at this point to moderately game on. Maybe waiting for the FX 7600P to show up in some products. Really curious what type of price range those will be in. I just thought those were neat. First time that I've seen them.
Ah, I forgot about that one. It's a weird product. It's much thicker than most tablets, which doesn't seem to bother you. The 4 hour battery life cited is if the tablet is mostly idle--and that's very, very short for a tablet at idle. Under gaming loads, I'd be surprised if you got 1 hour. The CPU is an Ivy Bridge chip that isn't that aggressive about slashing power consumption when idle, at least as compared to more modern architectures.
The addon's for the Edge are kind of pricey if they can be found. Massive turn off. Did a bit more reading on it and the GPU might not actually be used unless it's plugged in? Battery life in reviews were saying about 1hr 30mins or so. Not really what I am looking for. Just neat. I have been looking at I7 (Quad cores). They get a tad pricey fairly quick. . Started hunting around seeing if I could find some restocked I7's that were at a good price. Open to a lot at this point just needs to be at the right price range since I really don't need such a device. Would be nice but definitely can do without.
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Vrika raises some good points. If you're planning on holding the tablet in your hands or resting it in your lap or some such as you use it, you might well regret a bigger, heavier tablet. If you've got a nice place to mount it, it's fine.
Second, just because software is available for Windows doesn't automatically mean that you can do much with it on a tablet. If you can play a game using just a mouse and not the keyboard, you can probably play it on a tablet just as well, unless you need very precise mouse controls. But if you really need a keyboard, it might be awkward or basically unplayable on a tablet. If you're going to plug in an external keyboard, you might as well just get a simple laptop.
With Android, by contrast, virtually all software is meant to be used with a touch screen on a cell phone or tablet and not need a keyboard. A lot of the games that you might want to play are available for Windows but not Android. But a lot of those games might not be playable on a Windows tablet, either.
That he most certainly did. Make a good case that is. I think it needs to at least fold closed with the screen facing outwards. So 100% ok with that as long as it meets that criteria at this point. I haven't found any AMD options like that. Plenty of Intels.
If I go with a Android I might as well wait for the next Tegra to release. Which is kind of crazy how fast they seem to be releasing. I haven't done much reading on the chip but I understand a bit better what it is.
Edit: I'd really like to say that everyone's really helped me get a better grasp on what I want. I had just kind of started looking when I made the initial post. I've been at it reading and learning all morning afternoon. It does suck that it looks like I have to play the waiting game. That said Thank You everyone!
OP...
Go to a shop. Play around with tablets and smartphones.
Browse through the Android, WIndows and iOS interfaces. See what they feel like.
If you want to, make an idiot out of yourself and generally be a pain to the staff by asking them loads of questions and asking if they can show you a game on each. See how it plays if they allow you to.
Don't buy anything just yet. Wait a day. Afterwards, go to a shop again and have a second look. If the staff haven't killed you by now, you can actually buy something.
Right now, you are trying to buy something you don't really have an idea about. It's not smart since no amount of research is going to make up for first hand experience.
I recently bought a monitor. I went to the shop, looked at the colours on them. I poked each to see how it wobbles. I looked at them, to see if they really do look like on photos. I also had a look at contrast and refresh rates, and if I can even tell apart a "good" contrast from a "bad" contrast monitor. Helped loads to make up my mind and get something that is good FOR ME, without overpaying.
If you're finding a lot of Intel Haswell stuff, that's because Intel subsidizes the creation of such devices.
The next Tegra will be basically the same CPU that you can get today, but with a Kepler GPU. That's a single Kepler SMX, so it's GeForce 600 series architecture, but will of course be much slower than the discrete cards. The Tegra after that will have the same GPU, but be a dual core rather than quad core with two presumably more powerful cores of Nvidia's custom ARM architecture. If you want to wait for that one, you'll probably be waiting until next year.
But part of the problem with waiting is, even once the hardware launches, you still have to wait for vendors to make the tablet you want. If you want a 19" tablet based on a new generation Tegra, there's no guarantee that you'll get it by the end of this year--or by the end of next year, for that matter.
That's great for monitors, keyboards, and mice. But it's no way to judge other internal hardware in a computer.
Maybe after I understand what hardware and there's products that I know of on the market that meet the criteria. Yes it's evolved since the initial post but that's expected especially after the information I have been given or aspects I didn't think about. The whole purpose here.
I have likely gotten more help here and given things to consider in half a day than I would in 20 visits to some place like Best Buy.
Dam you actually beat me to it. lol.
NM guess it was there awhile and just didn't see it.
Think I might take a break for the day. My brains pretty much Jello at this point. Everyone's been awesome. I can read up some more on Tegra's and come back if I have questions. I can't really do much more as far as asking about tech until I see something from AMD that I want at this point.
Oh, i understand that. At the same time though, there's no way to judge if holding a heavy tablet is feels comfortable to you from posts on an internet forum. Same with interfaces, it's an individual matter which one is more intuitive and natural.
If I go with a A10 7400P laptop is there any downside to that vs. the more currently common 5750 I see everywhere? Both are same wattage. I imagine with a better APU the 7400P would get a little warmer? Maybe even shorter battery life depending on what the manufacturer uses?
Edit: I guess if I got that might as well go on and waot for somethign with the FX - 7600P.
That's a Kaveri laptop rather than Beema/Mullins. That means it's much higher power, but also much higher performance. That performance does come at a price, however: heavy gaming loads on the battery might well drain the battery in an hour or so.
The A10-5750M that you found is the top bin of Richland, which is AMD's previous generation APU. The A10-7400P is substantially better than it at basically everything, as a result of a better CPU architecture, a better GPU architecture, and a better process node. They'll use about the same power at load, but the latter will give substantially better performance while using that power.
It's worth noting that the A10-7400P is not the top bin of Kaveri. Rather, it disables 1/4 of the GPU and clocks the CPU a little lower. The top bin is the FX-7600P.
If you want to play games on integrated graphics, it's worth noting that the memory configuration is important. You want properly matched memory channels, as mismatching them might dock your performance by 5% or 10% or so. Leaving a memory channel vacant entirely will hurt your performance a lot worse than that. You probably want 8 GB of memory if going that route, configured as two 4 GB modules. 6 GB is guaranteed to be mismatched, and 4 GB will tend to be one 4 GB module and one channel vacant. Even 8 GB could be a single 8 GB module and an empty channel depending on how evil a vendor wants to be, but I wouldn't expect that to be all that common.
With Beema/Mullins or last generation Kabini/Temash, it's easier to get matched memory channels precisely because there's only one channel. Thus, one module by itself is fine, as is two modules of the same capacity. Two modules of different capacities will manage to mess things up, though.
It's also worth noting that if a laptop comes with mismatched memory channels, you can probably fix it yourself by buying memory modules and adding or replacing one.
Thanks, wonder how long until they show up if reviews were done last month. Curious to see prices and configurations.
They're starting to show up:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-touchsmart-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-a10-series-6gb-memory-750gb-hard-drive-natural-silver/5342009.p?id=1219120209729&skuId=5342009&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5342009&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!37678873159!g!!49989913399&kpid=5342009&k_clickid=4a7edd05-e9a6-3249-9395-00004f07cbf9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CjkKEQjwxN6dBRDavZLpufuu9L8BEiQA4Vx1b8y5iNfh0DUfyXj4eJbu1OMUyt4R1-lqgfKBi_ooOObw_wcB&Item=N82E16834317602&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-All+Laptops+%2f+Notebooks-_-N82E16834317602&ef_id=Uu8MUQAABZS2uTLZ:20140705202700:s
The latter is a lower clocked, lower performance version that will cap power usage at 19 W rather than 35 W. That could allow for better battery life under gaming loads, but in this case, Lenovo decided to just give it a tiny battery instead.
The lenovo is what actually made me learn about the 7600P.
Has anyone heard anything about the A 10 micro. When it might be hitting shelves in a tablet? Think Windows 8 tablet is the way I am going to go. I don't see any new pages in searches. Though I don't know where all to look for information, rumors or whatever. Definitely going to be parting ways with my desktop. :S Just a big life change incoming and I have until Aug before I really need to have my shit together.
HP is now offering a lower bin of Mullins in a 10" laptop:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/G7V60AV?HP-Pavilion-10z-Touch-Laptop
Again, that's a laptop, not a tablet, so it's not what you're looking for. But the chips are out there.
Something that might plausibly be of interest to you is this:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/G3S52AV?HP-Pavilion-x360-13z-Touch-Laptop
That can flip the monitor around to lay flat on top of the keyboard, so it can be used like a tablet. A very thick and heavy tablet, but still. It's also 13", and a monitor resolution of 1366x768. But it does have the top bin of Beema in it, so it will run nearly any games on the market, though often only at low to moderate graphical settings.
Interested in the second one at this point. I guess I would need to get the 6gb option for 2 dimm's? Would really like the a10 micro. Time doesn't seem to be on my side at this point. yuck. Thank You Quizzical.
No. Beema/Mullins has only a single memory channel. With a much weaker CPU and GPU than desktops typically have, it doesn't need as much memory bandwidth. Having only a single memory channel helps keep both costs and power consumption down.
Furthermore, using 6 GB of memory means that you'll mismatch the two memory modules, as one will be 4 GB and the other 2 GB. That will hurt your memory bandwidth. The reasonable amounts of memory to get are 4 GB or 8 GB.
Be warned that the A8-6410 is a 15 W chip, not 4.5 W like the A10 Micro-6700T. That allows it to clock much higher, but also means that you won't get that much battery life under gaming loads.
Oh ok. Sorry I didn't do a lot of self research. I got a lot dumped on me this morning. crazy day. exciting but crazy. Thank You
Still shopping. I did come across a sale I missed that I think I think I might have taken advantage of. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/html/pbPage.PDP/Razer-Edge-Touchscreen-Gaming-Tablet/productID.285233100?siteID=Emv4RLEHREc-LvTU_fXxWHJRFop2SJF92w
Amazon also had a sale on them I guess but only 1 left and it's price has gone up. Bigger SSD though.
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Edge-Pro-256GB-Tablet/dp/B00BIFX5JE
Can't say I understand why that ones so much cheaper than the others listed with smaller ssd's. Think I am just looking for anything mobile at this point to moderately game on. Maybe waiting for the FX 7600P to show up in some products. Really curious what type of price range those will be in. I just thought those were neat. First time that I've seen them.
Its still a small tablet and I am pretty sure a few of those numbers are a bit exaggerated. Its a core i7 tablet with a discrete GPU meaning there is no way its getting 4 hours of solid use without a 6 cell battery. Chances are the battery in this is much smaller. The discrete GPU is also not much of a GPU. Its barely better than the HD4000 its substituting for. The NVidia GTS 640 is one step up from integrated graphics. The 640m is a mobile chip that is not comparable to integrated graphics. Its actually a pretty worthless discrete GPU in my opinion. You would get better performance out of a laptop APU stuck in there and probably have better battery life to boot.
The only Mullins based tablet I have seen is the AMD reference design in a 10" form factor. I haven't actually heard any news from other OEMs if they will bring them to market. Usually you hear something about 3 months before they send them out, and there was no news as CES. The reference was out in January so their should have been something in the pipes by now. MSI would more than likely be bringing one to market. I also don't think you will be seeing these in a 15" form factor. More than likely they will hover around 10".
You can probably find a 15" convertible touchscreen laptop like a Tablet PC. The problem with some of the ones I have seen is that they make it difficult to use them purely as a tablet.
Yeah I know the gpu wasn't anything special. I just thought it was neat that all that was in such a tiny package. Don't know that I am interested in it at current price. $800 ish and I would have probably slept on it and gave it serious consideration. I've done that a few times now with a given product. The other stuff for it was really pricey as well and that turned me off of it kind of. Couldn't even find a keyboard dock for it.
I'm pretty much over all the original stuff I was looking for. Touchscreen is nice. other than that trying to find something that can moderately game most stuff at a good price. Why the FX-7600P really interests me.
Ah, I forgot about that one. It's a weird product. It's much thicker than most tablets, which doesn't seem to bother you. The 4 hour battery life cited is if the tablet is mostly idle--and that's very, very short for a tablet at idle. Under gaming loads, I'd be surprised if you got 1 hour. The CPU is an Ivy Bridge chip that isn't that aggressive about slashing power consumption when idle, at least as compared to more modern architectures.
The addon's for the Edge are kind of pricey if they can be found. Massive turn off. Did a bit more reading on it and the GPU might not actually be used unless it's plugged in? Battery life in reviews were saying about 1hr 30mins or so. Not really what I am looking for. Just neat. I have been looking at I7 (Quad cores). They get a tad pricey fairly quick. . Started hunting around seeing if I could find some restocked I7's that were at a good price. Open to a lot at this point just needs to be at the right price range since I really don't need such a device. Would be nice but definitely can do without.