It's terrible

Unknown

Well, if you are looking for a true sandbox you shouldn't be here in the first place. AA is a sandpak, what's mean?
Asian developers aren't able to make sandbox how we all know here in the west, their skills are build around true themeparks with grind and farm in mind masked as quest. AA is the max they can do as a sandbox, infact is sandbox only for a 20%, as an endgame through housing and sieges.

Tab-1-2-3 smashing buttons, classes, and hub quest don't help.

Since i can digest themepark in a certain degree i'm fine with AA as a classic mmorpg, nothing less nothing more.

Uhwop

Originally posted by Nebell
Guys, calm down. I said the game is terrible. It still is. There are only 4 races. Classes seem boring. Fighting looks stupid. The sound is bad. I can't comment about content and things to do, but it can be the best game out there content wise, it's already a no for me. The difference in MMO gamer mentality between Asian and Western market is huge. As much as the few people here want this game to succeed, it won't. It simply is not made for the western gamers. But of course, fanboys of every upcoming MMO have claimed that "this is WoW killer". And every single one have failed. How many MMOs have actually succeeded at keeping a healthy player base? I'm no fan of WoW. My best MMO experience is from Lineage 2 days. Which frankly is similar to this game. But there is only one Lineage 2. And no, you can't have my lvl 2 character.

That's a lot of "I didn't play the game, but it's an Asian MMO so it's terrible."  

So the game is similar to L2, which was your best experience, is made by the same guy that made L2, is also Asian, and has a lot of silly grunting and moaning. 

L2 was one of my favorites,and I think your opinion is totally worthless.  That's my worthless opinion. 

 

Or is it because your female character wasn't all breast and panty shots out the gate.  I'm betting that's why you keep praising L2, and trolling AA.  

sketocafe

Originally posted by poefue
So are these facts or opinions????

 

Facts can be verified.

synn

Originally posted by Nebell

I tried 2 asian games this weekend. FFXIV and This, and boy, I'm not sure who's allowing these crappy asian games to come to our market.

The moment I heard my character grunt while attacking, etc, I knew this will be another copy.

Yeah, I guess that games like Age of Conan, Eve and The Secret World were created for more mature audience. This is getting ridiculous.

The only good asian MMORPG was Lineage 2 and to some extent, FFXI. The rest is a joke. I'm not even sure why are people who make these games called developers, because they sure do not develop. They are stuck in time.

Its fine that you don't like the game. I'm sure many share the same opinion. the big difference is how shallow your opinion is, then taking a shot at Asian game developers as though you could do something better. They make games based on what they feel their target audience would like, and I doubt you were their target audience Also, based on another one of your posts in this thread you mention something about a level 2 character??? your entire opinion about a game is based on what you learned going from level 1 to level 2?

 

was there really a point to this thread besides you making it clear you don't like Asian games

Kalfer

The irony is that it is the OP who comes off as immature, not the games whose voice action he cites as a reason for said immaturity.

 

 

akuma696

Originally posted by Nebell

I tried 2 asian games this weekend. FFXIV and This, and boy, I'm not sure who's allowing these crappy asian games to come to our market.

The moment I heard my character grunt while attacking, etc, I knew this will be another copy.

Yeah, I guess that games like Age of Conan, Eve and The Secret World were created for more mature audience. This is getting ridiculous.

The only good asian MMORPG was Lineage 2 and to some extent, FFXI. The rest is a joke. I'm not even sure why are people who make these games called developers, because they sure do not develop. They are stuck in time.

Maybe you should learn to construct proper sentences before you criticise the developers for developing bad games 

MadDemon64

Originally posted by poefue
So are these facts or opinions????

Opinions disguised as facts to give the OP more credibility.

Neobloodline3d

Originally posted by Nebell
Guys, calm down. I said the game is terrible. It still is. There are only 4 races. Classes seem boring. Fighting looks stupid. The sound is bad. I can't comment about content and things to do, but it can be the best game out there content wise, it's already a no for me. The difference in MMO gamer mentality between Asian and Western market is huge. As much as the few people here want this game to succeed, it won't. It simply is not made for the western gamers. But of course, fanboys of every upcoming MMO have claimed that "this is WoW killer". And every single one have failed. How many MMOs have actually succeeded at keeping a healthy player base? I'm no fan of WoW. My best MMO experience is from Lineage 2 days. Which frankly is similar to this game. But there is only one Lineage 2. And no, you can't have my lvl 2 character.

I see the same dudes bashing everyone who says a word negative about any game on these forums.   They play everything and know everything.  These guys talk to much with their high post counts consisting of garbage regurgitated platitudes of nonsense towards these cookie cutter money factory mmos being released the last few years.  These same people defended ff14 with tooth and nail when it came out regardless of it's obvious rip off sales tactics.   More people need to speak clearly and truthfully about their early experiences in the games.   First impressions are supremely important.   If it takes 2 weeks to start enjoying a game you play for enjoyment you're getting ripped off. Thanks for your input.   Stay honest. 

Gaeluian

Have to admit, I've never played  an Asian MMO. After watching the videos, screenshots, etc. I totally agree with the OP. Too bad people settle for games like this.

cylon8

am I the  only one tired of these posts. you ARE entitled to you opinion however do you for one moment think it's going to effect anyones interest in the game.  People are their own best critic. If I listened to every movie reviewer I'd have skipped basically every movie of the last decade.  Archage is designed my a lot of  the L2 team. The game does have a nostalgic throw back feel to it and there is a reson for that...mmos had their hey day when sand box difficulty curve games were made.  is it everyones cup o java no, but for a lot of us including myself archeage represents the core fundamental elements of a game that we love, that we would pay for, and that we will play for years.  am in no way a sandbox purist,  I actually love wildstar. So frankly I'm sorry you hate archeage, but who knows maybe black desert will be your cup of tea or landmark when it is complete...and if sio good for you. But you won't find me on here trying to dissuade you from exploring those games on your own.

xAPOCx

Originally posted by Gaeluian
Have to admit, I've never played  an Asian MMO. After watching the videos, screenshots, etc. I totally agree with the OP. Too bad people settle for games like this.

Oh and please tell us what game is it that you have settled for.

Neobloodline3d

Originally posted by xAPOCx

Originally posted by Gaeluian
Have to admit, I've never played  an Asian MMO. After watching the videos, screenshots, etc. I totally agree with the OP. Too bad people settle for games like this.

Oh and please tell us what game is it that you have settled for.

Can you guys use larger animated gifs and brighter fonts I'm not sufficiently convinced your opinion trumps his yet.

xAPOCx

Originally posted by Nebell
Guys, calm down. I said the game is terrible. It still is. There are only 4 races. Classes seem boring. Fighting looks stupid. The sound is bad. I can't comment about content and things to do, but it can be the best game out there content wise, it's already a no for me. The difference in MMO gamer mentality between Asian and Western market is huge. As much as the few people here want this game to succeed, it won't. It simply is not made for the western gamers. But of course, fanboys of every upcoming MMO have claimed that "this is WoW killer". And every single one have failed. How many MMOs have actually succeeded at keeping a healthy player base? I'm no fan of WoW. My best MMO experience is from Lineage 2 days. Which frankly is similar to this game. But there is only one Lineage 2. And no, you can't have my lvl 2 character.

There is so much fail in this one paragraph, i can't tell if its funny at this point or just plain sad.

 

First you say the game is terrible because of some sounds.

 Only 4 races (btw its 8 races. The other 4 are, Warborn, Dwarfs, Fairies, Returned.)

Classes seem boring. (120 class combinations but whatever)

Fighting looks stupid (you have a lvl 2 so you have extensive knowledge of the games combat)

 

Then you go on to discuss the "mentality" of western/Aisan gamers and how this game will fail because of (add your reason here) then continue to say how your best MMO experience came from L2. THEN said that AA is similar too L2...

 

So tell me again why anyone should take your "review" seriously?

xAPOCx

Originally posted by Neobloodline3d

Originally posted by xAPOCx

Originally posted by Gaeluian
Have to admit, I've never played  an Asian MMO. After watching the videos, screenshots, etc. I totally agree with the OP. Too bad people settle for games like this.

Oh and please tell us what game is it that you have settled for.

Can you guys use larger animated gifs and brighter fonts I'm not sufficiently convinced your opinion trumps his yet.

Let me see. Admits to never playing a Asian MMO, watched "some" vid,SS etc, agrees with the OP that has a lvl 2 charterer, then has sympathy for those that "settled" for AA.

And you have a problem with me asking him what game it is that he has settled for and make a snide comment about font color and gifs.  I have another gif got you.

 

Neobloodline3d

Originally posted by xAPOCx

Originally posted by Neobloodline3d

Originally posted by xAPOCx

Originally posted by Gaeluian
Have to admit, I've never played  an Asian MMO. After watching the videos, screenshots, etc. I totally agree with the OP. Too bad people settle for games like this.

Oh and please tell us what game is it that you have settled for.

Can you guys use larger animated gifs and brighter fonts I'm not sufficiently convinced your opinion trumps his yet.

Let me see. Admits to never playing a Asian MMO, watched "some" vid,SS etc, agrees with the OP that has a lvl 2 charterer, then has sympathy for those that "settled" for AA.

And you have a problem with me asking him what game it is that he has settled for and make a snide comment about font color and gifs.  I have another gif got you.

 

Not at all I just think you guys should add more flamingos and perhaps a few more rainbows and sparkles to your act. 

Kyleran

Originally posted by Nebell
Guys, calm down. I said the game is terrible. It still is. There are only 4 races. Classes seem boring. Fighting looks stupid. The sound is bad. I can't comment about content and things to do, but it can be the best game out there content wise, it's already a no for me. The difference in MMO gamer mentality between Asian and Western market is huge. As much as the few people here want this game to succeed, it won't. It simply is not made for the western gamers. But of course, fanboys of every upcoming MMO have claimed that "this is WoW killer". And every single one have failed. How many MMOs have actually succeeded at keeping a healthy player base? I'm no fan of WoW. My best MMO experience is from Lineage 2 days. Which frankly is similar to this game. But there is only one Lineage 2. And no, you can't have my lvl 2 character.

Well, you're doing better, at least you dislike the game for more than the combat sounds.

Can't argue with your first point, atm there are only 4 races, promise of more, but who knows?.  Classes are pretty cool when you combine the 3 different skill trees that each can have, but that might not be of interest to you.  Fighting is pretty conventional tab targeting, so if that's not your style and prefer more action combat then yes, this isn't the game for you.

Definitely not the WOW killer, doubt I've heard anyone say this, clearly a niche title but might do just as well as L2 did, at least here in the West. 

I think the word average might be more fitting, but if you wish to use hyperbole to describe it, no one can stop you.

 

sumdumguy1

Perhaps if the OP went into greater detail as to why he didn't like these games, there could be a more sensible discussion.

ProfGetz

Thanks for your opinion,OP, sorry you didn't like the game.  AA will not be the game for everyone. For me, it is the best MMO I have played in years. Best of luck to you.

sipu

For those who forgot.... look at WoW and... MoP expansion - loads of asian sounds around   Seems the Asian market is more attractive than EU/NA nowdays.

Sovrath

Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Perhaps if the OP went into greater detail as to why he didn't like these games, there could be a more sensible discussion.

I agree.

this is sort of a problem for these forums. People say things or ask things but they are never specific. Then the discussion goes "'round and 'round" and eventually the heart of the matter is discovered.

 

Neobloodline3d

Originally posted by Nebell

I tried 2 asian games this weekend. FFXIV and This, and boy, I'm not sure who's allowing these crappy asian games to come to our market.

The moment I heard my character grunt while attacking, etc, I knew this will be another copy.

Yeah, I guess that games like Age of Conan, Eve and The Secret World were created for more mature audience. This is getting ridiculous.

The only good asian MMORPG was Lineage 2 and to some extent, FFXI. The rest is a joke. I'm not even sure why are people who make these games called developers, because they sure do not develop. They are stuck in time.

I am clearly picking up what you're laying down here.   The game is to similar to other failed Asian games.   Check.   The game feels regurgitated in it's systems.   Check.   You think it's to immature.   Check.  You couldn't get very far into it without stopping.  Check.   All very good points worthy of respect. I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand. 

Foobarx

By not going into any details, you open up the discussion.  Think about it, how much more open ended can you get with "It's terrible"?  That can mean almost anything, thus the discussion can go in a gazillion different directions... which means it will stay at the top of the recently visited threads page much much longer.  Which was the objective all along.

Azmodeus

OP, I guess you did not get the memo.  You are not allowed to trash any game in here unless it is called ESO and SWTOR.

You will get blasted on all angles if you voice your opinion like everyone bashing you did with those 2 games.

 

Ramanadjinn

Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Perhaps if the OP went into greater detail as to why he didn't like these games, there could be a more sensible discussion.

 

He did later in the thread.

1) The sound is bad

2) There are only 4 races.

3) Classes seem boring

4) Fighting looks stupid

 

.. Its not the sort of review I would consider taking seriously, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and if he wants to hate an MMO because "the sound is bad" more power to him.

Demrocks

Played quite a few western mmo's and i was shocked how bad the latests batch of these mmo's were.

They dint even last longer then 3 weeks before the carrot on a stick mechanic kicked in and made me unsub and run away realy hard.

Yet with Archage 5 months russian server and 6 weeks alpha i still cant get enough of it.

Maybe its you OP ?

 

Goodluck with whatever mmo you bash next o/