Originally posted by Ceara when vangaurd first announced that they would be bringing out a 3rd gen rpg and that it would push the game to new heights i was very interested then dark and light and dDO had similar claims
it appears that vanguard has no clue what a good rpg is ddo ,vanguard, dark and light they all promise but all seem without soul before they even hit the streets in vangaurds case its a matter if trying to reinvent the wheel they have their brains scrambled MCquaid is a EQ fanboy and cant get over the fact that EQ is and will always be a dumb game for more then one reason i dont see much from vangaurd that persuades me to beleive that saga of heroes will not be a simple remake of EQ2 EQ2 and EQ may be the best rpg for those that never tried anything else but ive tried many they were and are crapola to actuaslly be trying to base saga of heroes of those games makes me laugh at their futile attempt after making so much noise about how they were improving the rpg game to find out what they have so far is so similar to EQ2 it makes me want to puke on mcquad and his cronies
and in the process making a step backwards instead of forwards eq was crap so was eq2 people for the most part dont want that bullshit sure if you feed them bull crap and they only know bull crap they will hail sigil as the end all of rpg developpers in fact the combat sytem is the worse I ever saw since eq2 no need to reinvent the wheel sigil just give us a good rpg dont give us the eq bullshit if you cant solo the game forget it all this having to party and the complicated combat system makes me want to puke all over the screen where is the pvp like it is suppose to be where is the surprise and where is the content all i hear about is how you have to party with others and how the combat system promises to be the slowest in the industry graphics is nice but game play from what i have read is mundane at best rpg combat no need to reinvent the wheel instead of looking at eq and eq2 which is one of the worse rpg i ever played hire some people that created the first uo they can show you what makes a good rpg as is im afraid vangaurd ddo and dark and light besides making some lofty claims and alot of noise are only making people pissed off is there anyone out there that still knows what a good rpg is about anymore has all the monster camping skill boredom dulled your senses i want surprises chills to the bone not party systems and little solo content with a combat system that is rediculous to say the least and crafting that takes an army to compete this is pure bull crap and shows me that vangaurd has no idea what a good rpg is about they will cling onto EQ untill the very end sad very very sad
without all out pvp how do have surprise and chills to the bone you cant only another boring game is coming from vangaurd people that complain about pvp are stupid people that only see chalenge when fighting a monster that is 25 levels lower then themselves without pvp there is no surprise monsters are too predictable to be fun after a certain level and after eq eq2 people are not willing to invest time and money in a game that promises to be boring at the upper levels and mundane at the lower levels you would think that vangaurd would have at least known this before making the claim that they would advance the game to new heights perhaps new heights from eq that isnt too hard to achieve but thats not saying much either
Next time how about showing some good grammatics and alittle paragraph structure so I can actually read the next tragedy you decide to post. Its filled with contradiction and incomplete sentences. When you can get to that point then I will consider discussing the actual content of your posts in a thread.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
your personal feable attacks on me show your true colours
EQ is a feable game for feable minded people
the so called new game vanguard is working is looking to be nothing more then a updated version of a feable game
poisonous is a word that should be reserved for vanguard's bloated claims of working on a 3rd generation game that will push the genre forward it actually is looking like it will be nothing more then a feable game for feable minded people
pvp is so restrictive that it may as well not exist in the game
realism and all sense of what a good rpg is
is lost in the whacky combat set up and whacky skill set up
my final word is that people who attack others for their point of view are ussually the feable minded poisonous people that play feable minded games like this one is shaping up to be
for you feallas to be defending this game and spewing out poison like that it appears to me that your minds have been turned to shit and all sense of openness and objectivity is lost in your little a hole brains
Ps
vanguard should of started with a clean slate in stead they are looking to EQ and EQ 2 for their guidance and using an old game engine to boot
Originally posted by Ceara your personal feable attacks on me show your true colours EQ is a feable game for feable minded people the so called new game vanguard is working is looking to be nothing more then a updated version of a feable game poisonous is a word that should be reserved for vanguard's bloated claims of working on a 3rd generation game that will push the genre forward it actually is looking like it will be nothing more then a feable game for feable minded people pvp is so restrictive that it may as well not exist in the game realism and all sense of what a good rpg is is lost in the whacky combat set up and whacky skill set up my final word is that people who attack others for their point of view are ussually the feable minded poisonous people that play feable minded games like this one is shaping up to be for you feallas to be defending this game and spewing out poison like that it appears to me that your minds have been turned to shit and all sense of openness and objectivity is lost in your little a hole brains Ps vanguard should of started with a clean slate in stead they are looking to EQ and EQ 2 for their guidance and using an old game engine to boot what the out come will be is crapola
AHHHH, now it makes sense. Your a griefer that is still upset about UO!
So let me get this straight. Your complaing about a game that is designed to bring back the original aspects of EQ 1 by the makers of EQ 1 because its gonna be like EQ 1 and possibly 2 in many ways? Did you actually think about that before you spoke?
Congratulations, your complaining about it being what it was designed to be!!
Seriously, did you just make a bunch of assumptions on what it would be before you read anything about it at all?
And attacking people personally over their choice in a game? How mature of you, I think you better start using that mind of yours and stop with the childish cracks. If you want to be taken seriously start acting like and adult or atleast respectful of other's choices.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
the game that is shaping up is not what I expected at all
all this talk about needing to be in a party to get anything done is crazy
the pvp portion is pure nonsense
YEs uo the original was a great rpg thats true at least untill the hacks ruined it
what i have read so far is upsetting because i had my heart and so did my boyfriend on playing this game
actually we were checking out this one along with dark and light and d&D
all of these now seem to be hi jacked from truely becoming a great game
d&D only a dungeon crawl
dNL no dungeons at all at least at launch
and the game we had the highest hopes for is reduced to rubble by weird skill and combat systems
how can someone not get mad at this trend of companies making big claims only to be working on another crapy game
we are not griefers we are saddened onlookers at what appears to be a trend to reduce rpgs to another round of tedious boredom and mundane game systems or as in the case of vangaurd trying to reinvent the wheel when all that is really needed is more content more pvp and more realism
I got ganked plenty of times because we never played the reds in uo but it added realism and thrills to the game because you never knew where the reds were lurking
people complained about being ganked because they didnt like it but although it wasnt a nice feeling to be ganked
it added so much of what i call sweaty palms and knees knocking to the game that it actually made UO the all time favourite game i ever played
EQ i played eq2 it was a boring camp the monster kids game compared to the original UO
understand like I said we never went red in uo it was just that the original UO was actualy exciting to play compared to asherons or eq and it was the fact that reds were lurking in the bushes
what has come out since the original uo has been a steady stream or boredom this newest round of rpgs is not going to bring back the excitement to the genre it will remain the fairyland for fairies
Sounds to me like you don't want the next generation, but you want a 3d version of UO. Why don't you go troll the boards of the game being made by the maker of UO if you liked that game so much instead of whining that the game being made by the makers of EQ is going to be the next generation version of EQ?
Originally posted by Ceara my dear fadeus I mean no disrespect to anyone the game that is shaping up is not what I expected at all all this talk about needing to be in a party to get anything done is crazy the pvp portion is pure nonsense YEs uo the original was a great rpg thats true at least untill the hacks ruined it what i have read so far is upsetting because i had my heart and so did my boyfriend on playing this game actually we were checking out this one along with dark and light and d&D all of these now seem to be hi jacked from truely becoming a great game d&D only a dungeon crawl dNL no dungeons at all at least at launch and the game we had the highest hopes for is reduced to rubble by weird skill and combat systems how can someone not get mad at this trend of companies making big claims only to be working on another crapy game we are not griefers we are saddened onlookers at what appears to be a trend to reduce rpgs to another round of tedious boredom and mundane game systems or as in the case of vangaurd trying to reinvent the wheel when all that is really needed is more content more pvp and more realism I got ganked plenty of times because we never played the reds in uo but it added realism and thrills to the game because you never knew where the reds were lurking people complained about being ganked because they didnt like it but although it wasnt a nice feeling to be ganked it added so much of what i call sweaty palms and knees knocking to the game that it actually made UO the all time favourite game i ever played EQ i played eq2 it was a boring camp the monster kids game compared to the original UO understand like I said we never went red in uo it was just that the original UO was actualy exciting to play compared to asherons or eq and it was the fact that reds were lurking in the bushes what has come out since the original uo has been a steady stream or boredom this newest round of rpgs is not going to bring back the excitement to the genre it will remain the fairyland for fairies
As I said Ceara. It sounds like you didn't pay any attention inthe beginning of the development of Vanguard. It was slated to be EQ 1 style grouping and raid from the beginning. Thats the user base they decided to appeal too. There are plenty of PvP games out there, you have a vast selection of them currently. The last I checked Vanguard is coming out exactly how they promised, with except to giving in alittle to the PvP whine.
Don't sit and flame the game because its what they promised it would be even though its not what you want, go find one that is. I happen to love about every game you listed there as lame. I am sorry your personal tastes don't meet the majority of players that MMO's are geared for at the moment, however that does not make them inferior products.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
As I said Ceara. It sounds like you didn't pay any attention inthe beginning of the development of Vanguard. It was slated to be EQ 1 style grouping and raid from the beginning. Thats the user base they decided to appeal too. There are plenty of PvP games out there, you have a vast selection of them currently. The last I checked Vanguard is coming out exactly how they promised, with except to giving in alittle to the PvP whine.
Don't sit and flame the game because its what they promised it would be even though its not what you want, go find one that is. I happen to love about every game you listed there as lame. I am sorry your personal tastes don't meet the majority of players that MMO's are geared for at the moment, however that does not make them inferior products.
Rock on, Fadeus. In my opinion, Caera is a perfect example of what I find undesirable about the PvP mindset.
Originally posted by darquenblade Originally posted by Fadeus As I said Ceara. It sounds like you didn't pay any attention inthe beginning of the development of Vanguard. It was slated to be EQ 1 style grouping and raid from the beginning. Thats the user base they decided to appeal too. There are plenty of PvP games out there, you have a vast selection of them currently. The last I checked Vanguard is coming out exactly how they promised, with except to giving in alittle to the PvP whine. Don't sit and flame the game because its what they promised it would be even though its not what you want, go find one that is. I happen to love about every game you listed there as lame. I am sorry your personal tastes don't meet the majority of players that MMO's are geared for at the moment, however that does not make them inferior products.Rock on, Fadeus. In my opinion, Caera is a perfect example of what I find undesirable about the PvP mindset.
lol! ty...
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
im not flaming the game im trying to make them see the light before they make another spawn sqauting game that is exactly how i described it a fairyland for fairies
once you reach a certain level you will have seen it all and when you reflect back on the game it amounts to nothing more then a fairyland for fairies
without sweaty palms and knees knocking what else is there
it is no more then any other game out there how is this pushing the genre forward
perhaps im being rash a bit after all the game isnt out yet
what ive seen from e3 coverage they sure are making a eq2 game along with the complicated
game systems and ive played those . mindless monster squat games they become boring fast
with only monsters to beat on and so predictable zero surprise and no element of excitability other than mundane skills and mundane monster hunting
along with a used game engine
its all too familiar how is this pushing the genre forwaed i would like to know
vangaurd has made lofty claims to hype a rather old game with a sagging game engine
im sure there are enough mundane people too fill their cofers to brim
after you fellas have played the game for awhile and come to the conclusion where is the excitment
dont blame sigil after all they only listened to you and followed your inputs
and your inputs say give us mundane without excitment saying we dont want excitment and knee knocking surprise
it is you that line up like robots to proclaim it is the best ever before it hits the streets
they listen to your mundane inputs the result is your own making
I dont blame most of the people they only know mundane games they never tried uo the original uo that is
sigil will say things like well we went with this game engine because we wanted to focus on making a game instead of starting from scratch
that is like saying we are totally out of our element here Help
people will swallow it hook line and sinker and line up for another pay for mandane boredom and will proclaim it as the second coming
good luck and happy hunting er monster squating in fairyland that is
Vanguard has always been built with the EQ player in mind. Sigil has always admitted it is trying to cater to fans of EQ. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a true spiritual successor to EQ. However, I think many feel that the game may turn out to be more like EQ2 then EQ based on some of the information provided by Sigil.
1. Archetypes - Everyone knows this is where SOE screwed themselves. They failed to differentiate the classes dramatically at the higher levels. They watered down the RP aspect of some classes such as Bard types failing to actually play instruments. Upper tiered classes weren't that distinct from one another.
2. Spheres of development - Vanguard will allow players to progress in 3 different ways. Trading, Adventuring, and Diplomacy. SOE did the same thing with EQ2 except EQ2 didn't have the third way of advancing.
3. Combat - Sigil has mentioned aspects of their fighting system that sound very similar to EQ2's heroic opportunities system(almost every upcoming MMO has some similar system).
I think Sigil can pull it off, but I hope they don't get so enveloped in their own vision that they miss out on the intricate details that made EQ so immersive and captivating. Thats what happened with EQ2 I believe.
Originally posted by Ceara FUN FOR SOME IS BOREDOM FOR OTHERS THIS is TRUE im not flaming the game im trying to make them see the light before they make another spawn sqauting game that is exactly how i described it a fairyland for fairies once you reach a certain level you will have seen it all and when you reflect back on the game it amounts to nothing more then a fairyland for fairies without sweaty palms and knees knocking what else is there it is no more then any other game out there how is this pushing the genre forward perhaps im being rash a bit after all the game isnt out yet what ive seen from e3 coverage they sure are making a eq2 game along with the complicated game systems and ive played those . mindless monster squat games they become boring fast with only monsters to beat on and so predictable zero surprise and no element of excitability other than mundane skills and mundane monster hunting along with a used game engine its all too familiar how is this pushing the genre forwaed i would like to know vangaurd has made lofty claims to hype a rather old game with a sagging game engine im sure there are enough mundane people too fill their cofers to brim after you fellas have played the game for awhile and come to the conclusion where is the excitment dont blame sigil after all they only listened to you and followed your inputs and your inputs say give us mundane without excitment saying we dont want excitment and knee knocking surprise it is you that line up like robots to proclaim it is the best ever before it hits the streets they listen to your mundane inputs the result is your own making I dont blame most of the people they only know mundane games they never tried uo the original uo that is sigil will say things like well we went with this game engine because we wanted to focus on making a game instead of starting from scratch that is like saying we are totally out of our element here Help people will swallow it hook line and sinker and line up for another pay for mandane boredom and will proclaim it as the second coming good luck and happy hunting er monster squating in fairyland that is
Dear jumpin' jehovah man learn to form a sentence. Paragraphs are your friend, also.
Originally posted by Ceara what is coming from sigil is another fairy romp in fairyland for all the little fairies EQ a critical success by means of a wave of new players to the genre that didnt have a clue and landed up in fairylanf EQ now sigil will propogate another fairyland for all the little fairies they will not deviate from this formulae because they know alot of fairies play that type of game you know the types crying all the time mommy they killed me and stole my new items instead of getting up and taking on the cheek they go complain to the game makers we dont want open pvp we want a fairyland for fairies well now this is exactly what you will get another mundane monster squat for fairies ENJOY the ride SIGIL are you listening you are a bunch of fairies that only make fairy games for faires by fairies MCquad is the biggest fairy of all wouldnt surprise me at all if he wears womans undies
You really seem to have some strange obsession with fairies.
Ok, trying to ignore Ceara's fairy-infested post, everybody seems to be going on about how Vanguard is bringing nothing to the table.
1. Does it have to bring anything to the table? I don't see why it does. As long as it gets the good stuff in, kicks the bad stuff out without leaving the game bare of any content, I see not why it has to innovate. Sure, originality can be good, but I don't see anyone complaining when they bring out yet another football game for the Playstation 2 (for example.) Capcom seems to be the only company innovating right now. But thats a different matter.
2. How do you know it won't innovate? Seriously, the game is not even close to being released yet. Not everything about the game has been released yet, so until you know about the game, I wouldn't claim to know that some feature has or hasn't been included.
Ok, I give up. Ceara, do you think calling someone a fairy is an incredible insult or something?
Originally posted by Ceara FUN FOR SOME IS BOREDOM FOR OTHERS THIS is TRUE im not flaming the game im trying to make them see the light before they make another spawn sqauting game that is exactly how i described it a fairyland for fairies
ErrrmMm, your not? Yes you are, and see the light??? Its a VIDEO game, not a religion, get over it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
if vangaurd is putting out bloated statements of how its making a third gen rpg that will be inovative as well as push the genre forward to new heights
then I would have to say they better bring something substantial to the table
but instead as shown at E3 it is actually working on a EQ2 game with all the quirky game systems and complicated I might add and for no good reason
then they should be taking the heat to just line up and say hail vangaurd is not enough we must
state the obviuosly wrong direction they are taking
as i have mentioned
they are using a used and old game engine wrong approach
they are trying to reinvent the wheel with game systems that promise to be so complicated that no one will like them similar to eq2 again wrong approach
pvp is not worth mentioning
all these mistakes and people still defend it
it is obvious that some people will say its a good approach no matter how many mistakes they make
it is obvious also that a fairyland for fairies approach is a waning desire amongst game players
and to add duels and such is the wrong approach again
im not taunting other people with the fairyland crap im trying to show that vangaurd is going about this all wrong
hoping someone from vangaurd will see it and revise their game in a new direction
from what I saw at E3
vangaurd and D&D will get their backsides whooped by DNL
DNL presently is making vangaurd devs looks like silly fools
hope they can turn it around and hope people will get a fire lit under them to start ragging them about their obviously bad approach before its too late
Vanguard may be doing it wrong for you Ceara, but it's doing it right for us. We don't want yet another silly boring pointless PvP fest. We want a challenging WORLD not a bunch of 12 year old yahoos running around like school just let out. So run along and get your jollies in what you now see as the coming messiah of gaming, DNL, and when you discover that it doesn't do it for you either, you can move to the next one on the list. In the meantime, we'll be enjoying ourselves.
Originally posted by Wickes Vanguard may be doing it wrong for you Ceara, but it's doing it right for us. We don't want yet another silly boring pointless PvP fest. We want a challenging WORLD not a bunch of 12 year old yahoos running around like school just let out. So run along and get your jollies in what you now see as the coming messiah of gaming, DNL, and when you discover that it doesn't do it for you either, you can move to the next one on the list. In the meantime, we'll be enjoying ourselves. To heck with the love, ste2000
Lol, Wickes saying it right, and with a smile!
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Uh...D&L has PvP? Wow...they must be focusing heavily on it if I didn't even know they HAD it. Oh THATS right, its not open PvP either! Just faction PvP. Sounds like a FAIRIE game to me!
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Next time how about showing some good grammatics and alittle paragraph structure so I can actually read the next tragedy you decide to post. Its filled with contradiction and incomplete sentences. When you can get to that point then I will consider discussing the actual content of your posts in a thread.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
your personal feable attacks on me show your true colours
EQ is a feable game for feable minded people
the so called new game vanguard is working is looking to be nothing more then a updated version of a feable game
poisonous is a word that should be reserved for vanguard's bloated claims of working on a 3rd generation game that will push the genre forward it actually is looking like it will be nothing more then a feable game for feable minded people
pvp is so restrictive that it may as well not exist in the game
realism and all sense of what a good rpg is
is lost in the whacky combat set up and whacky skill set up
my final word is that people who attack others for their point of view are ussually the feable minded poisonous people that play feable minded games like this one is shaping up to be
for you feallas to be defending this game and spewing out poison like that it appears to me that your minds have been turned to shit and all sense of openness and objectivity is lost in your little a hole brains
Ps
vanguard should of started with a clean slate in stead they are looking to EQ and EQ 2 for their guidance and using an old game engine to boot
what the out come will be is crapola
AHHHH, now it makes sense. Your a griefer that is still upset about UO!
So let me get this straight. Your complaing about a game that is designed to bring back the original aspects of EQ 1 by the makers of EQ 1 because its gonna be like EQ 1 and possibly 2 in many ways? Did you actually think about that before you spoke?
Congratulations, your complaining about it being what it was designed to be!!
Seriously, did you just make a bunch of assumptions on what it would be before you read anything about it at all?
And attacking people personally over their choice in a game? How mature of you, I think you better start using that mind of yours and stop with the childish cracks. If you want to be taken seriously start acting like and adult or atleast respectful of other's choices.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Sounds like he is really upset that he won't be able to gank newbies.
my dear fadeus
I mean no disrespect to anyone
the game that is shaping up is not what I expected at all
all this talk about needing to be in a party to get anything done is crazy
the pvp portion is pure nonsense
YEs uo the original was a great rpg thats true at least untill the hacks ruined it
what i have read so far is upsetting because i had my heart and so did my boyfriend on playing this game
actually we were checking out this one along with dark and light and d&D
all of these now seem to be hi jacked from truely becoming a great game
d&D only a dungeon crawl
dNL no dungeons at all at least at launch
and the game we had the highest hopes for is reduced to rubble by weird skill and combat systems
how can someone not get mad at this trend of companies making big claims only to be working on another crapy game
we are not griefers we are saddened onlookers at what appears to be a trend to reduce rpgs to another round of tedious boredom and mundane game systems or as in the case of vangaurd trying to reinvent the wheel when all that is really needed is more content more pvp and more realism
I got ganked plenty of times because we never played the reds in uo but it added realism and thrills to the game because you never knew where the reds were lurking
people complained about being ganked because they didnt like it but although it wasnt a nice feeling to be ganked
it added so much of what i call sweaty palms and knees knocking to the game that it actually made UO the all time favourite game i ever played
EQ i played eq2 it was a boring camp the monster kids game compared to the original UO
understand like I said we never went red in uo it was just that the original UO was actualy exciting to play compared to asherons or eq and it was the fact that reds were lurking in the bushes
what has come out since the original uo has been a steady stream or boredom this newest round of rpgs is not going to bring back the excitement to the genre it will remain the fairyland for fairies
Sounds to me like you don't want the next generation, but you want a 3d version of UO. Why don't you go troll the boards of the game being made by the maker of UO if you liked that game so much instead of whining that the game being made by the makers of EQ is going to be the next generation version of EQ?
As I said Ceara. It sounds like you didn't pay any attention inthe beginning of the development of Vanguard. It was slated to be EQ 1 style grouping and raid from the beginning. Thats the user base they decided to appeal too. There are plenty of PvP games out there, you have a vast selection of them currently. The last I checked Vanguard is coming out exactly how they promised, with except to giving in alittle to the PvP whine.
Don't sit and flame the game because its what they promised it would be even though its not what you want, go find one that is. I happen to love about every game you listed there as lame. I am sorry your personal tastes don't meet the majority of players that MMO's are geared for at the moment, however that does not make them inferior products.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
lol! ty...
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
FUN FOR SOME IS BOREDOM FOR OTHERS THIS is TRUE
im not flaming the game im trying to make them see the light before they make another spawn sqauting game that is exactly how i described it a fairyland for fairies
once you reach a certain level you will have seen it all and when you reflect back on the game it amounts to nothing more then a fairyland for fairies
without sweaty palms and knees knocking what else is there
it is no more then any other game out there how is this pushing the genre forward
perhaps im being rash a bit after all the game isnt out yet
what ive seen from e3 coverage they sure are making a eq2 game along with the complicated
game systems and ive played those . mindless monster squat games they become boring fast
with only monsters to beat on and so predictable zero surprise and no element of excitability other than mundane skills and mundane monster hunting
along with a used game engine
its all too familiar how is this pushing the genre forwaed i would like to know
vangaurd has made lofty claims to hype a rather old game with a sagging game engine
im sure there are enough mundane people too fill their cofers to brim
after you fellas have played the game for awhile and come to the conclusion where is the excitment
dont blame sigil after all they only listened to you and followed your inputs
and your inputs say give us mundane without excitment saying we dont want excitment and knee knocking surprise
it is you that line up like robots to proclaim it is the best ever before it hits the streets
they listen to your mundane inputs the result is your own making
I dont blame most of the people they only know mundane games they never tried uo the original uo that is
sigil will say things like well we went with this game engine because we wanted to focus on making a game instead of starting from scratch
that is like saying we are totally out of our element here Help
people will swallow it hook line and sinker and line up for another pay for mandane boredom and will proclaim it as the second coming
good luck and happy hunting er monster squating in fairyland that is
Please just go troll somewhere else. You dont like the game, we get it. You can LEAVE now...yeesh.
Vanguard has always been built with the EQ player in mind. Sigil has always admitted it is trying to cater to fans of EQ. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a true spiritual successor to EQ. However, I think many feel that the game may turn out to be more like EQ2 then EQ based on some of the information provided by Sigil.
1. Archetypes - Everyone knows this is where SOE screwed themselves. They failed to differentiate the classes dramatically at the higher levels. They watered down the RP aspect of some classes such as Bard types failing to actually play instruments. Upper tiered classes weren't that distinct from one another.
2. Spheres of development - Vanguard will allow players to progress in 3 different ways. Trading, Adventuring, and Diplomacy. SOE did the same thing with EQ2 except EQ2 didn't have the third way of advancing.
3. Combat - Sigil has mentioned aspects of their fighting system that sound very similar to EQ2's heroic opportunities system(almost every upcoming MMO has some similar system).
I think Sigil can pull it off, but I hope they don't get so enveloped in their own vision that they miss out on the intricate details that made EQ so immersive and captivating. Thats what happened with EQ2 I believe.
Mundane squatting fairies ... yeah, that's what all you guys are!
Get a life already ... go kill some other players
Ugh...please...just GO.
I'd report the trolling, but my forum rank always gets dropped when I do so...
You really seem to have some strange obsession with fairies.
Ok, trying to ignore Ceara's fairy-infested post, everybody seems to be going on about how Vanguard is bringing nothing to the table.
1. Does it have to bring anything to the table?
I don't see why it does. As long as it gets the good stuff in, kicks the bad stuff out without leaving the game bare of any content, I see not why it has to innovate. Sure, originality can be good, but I don't see anyone complaining when they bring out yet another football game for the Playstation 2 (for example.) Capcom seems to be the only company innovating right now. But thats a different matter.
2. How do you know it won't innovate?
Seriously, the game is not even close to being released yet. Not everything about the game has been released yet, so until you know about the game, I wouldn't claim to know that some feature has or hasn't been included.
Ok, I give up. Ceara, do you think calling someone a fairy is an incredible insult or something?
ErrrmMm, your not? Yes you are, and see the light??? Its a VIDEO game, not a religion, get over it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
oh well
if vangaurd is putting out bloated statements of how its making a third gen rpg that will be inovative as well as push the genre forward to new heights
then I would have to say they better bring something substantial to the table
but instead as shown at E3 it is actually working on a EQ2 game with all the quirky game systems and complicated I might add and for no good reason
then they should be taking the heat to just line up and say hail vangaurd is not enough we must
state the obviuosly wrong direction they are taking
as i have mentioned
they are using a used and old game engine wrong approach
they are trying to reinvent the wheel with game systems that promise to be so complicated that no one will like them similar to eq2 again wrong approach
pvp is not worth mentioning
all these mistakes and people still defend it
it is obvious that some people will say its a good approach no matter how many mistakes they make
it is obvious also that a fairyland for fairies approach is a waning desire amongst game players
and to add duels and such is the wrong approach again
im not taunting other people with the fairyland crap im trying to show that vangaurd is going about this all wrong
hoping someone from vangaurd will see it and revise their game in a new direction
from what I saw at E3
vangaurd and D&D will get their backsides whooped by DNL
DNL presently is making vangaurd devs looks like silly fools
hope they can turn it around and hope people will get a fire lit under them to start ragging them about their obviously bad approach before its too late
I think Ceara needs some love................
We all love you Ceara, all the fairies love you.......
From the biggest fairy of all, lots of love XXX
Vanguard may be doing it wrong for you Ceara, but it's doing it right for us. We don't want yet another silly boring pointless PvP fest. We want a challenging WORLD not a bunch of 12 year old yahoos running around like school just let out. So run along and get your jollies in what you now see as the coming messiah of gaming, DNL, and when you discover that it doesn't do it for you either, you can move to the next one on the list. In the meantime, we'll be enjoying ourselves.
To heck with the love, ste2000
Lol, Wickes saying it right, and with a smile!
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Cae is from the D&L boards, she's probably here just to try to make Vanguard look bad, and to make D&L look great.
I heard D&L doesn't even have any real dungeons... Eww...
Ignore the damn troll, because that's all he/she is.
Uh...D&L has PvP? Wow...they must be focusing heavily on it if I didn't even know they HAD it. Oh THATS right, its not open PvP either! Just faction PvP. Sounds like a FAIRIE game to me!