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Thoughts on American terrorism.
Krang
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Why do American's think it's okay to fight terrorists, but not stop being the largest terrorist organisation on Earth?
Definition:
terrorism, the threat or use of violence, often against the civilian population, to achieve political or social ends, to intimidate opponents, or to publicize grievances.
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Because they touch themselves at night.
Because they touch themselves at night.
I was just going to say that!!!
Krang can you please give examples of what you mean by American terrorism. I know WHAT you mean but I cant really comment on anything unless you give examples....
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I would've probably taken a retreat with 3 strikes if I even dared to reply.
Considering that we, as Americans, fight terrorism for humanity and not for political representation, we are not terrorists.
Also for Rathma: Quiet you Canuck! Just because we touch ourselves at night, day, and dinnertime does not mean that your country will not in the next 10 years be the 51st state of America.
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Because they touch themselves at night.
I was just going to say that!!!
Krang can you please give examples of what you mean by American terrorism. I know WHAT you mean but I cant really comment on anything unless you give examples....
1963-1975 American military kills 4 million civilians in Southeast Asia
1989 - US invades Panama, 3000 civilians die
1991 - US bombs Iraq weekly killing 500 000 Iraqi children
There are too many terrorist atacks the US has done.
I'm going to just ask one thing(to stir the fires) and then say nothing more.
Does anyone here know what the waco massacre was? If you do, in detail please explain what happend, and the reason/cause for it.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Well, Ontario would need to be a state on it own, with all the ego they have they would request the Canada name despite the fact they hardly speak french.
I think Alberta ''join the US'' form have been lost somewhere on some desk at the White House! The president is prolly more bored with Alberta fanboi support then folks here can be bored with Murt and his posts! BC is trying to sneak away with the ''Free Republic of California''.
So yes, Ontario could be the 51th state, but it would be because Manitoba become the 50th to replace California before Ontario enter with the flashy sound and everything!
PS: Actually, beside Canooks, most countries in the world can be labelled as Terrorists States in the last 100 years. In fact, any country that move military forces without the support of the UN is more or less a terrorist country...but that would need a much detailed argumentation then what a silly frenchy-Cannooook can do.
PPS: You know that during the freeing of France, the French would only prefer 1 country to free them then themselves...and yes, that are when the silly Cannooks troops would be freeing them. Of course any freeing was great in itself, but for various reasons, when it was Canooks freeing them, they where as happy as little childrens could be. US was an efficient freeing, but it was also a devasting freeing(they never complain about that after the nazi thingy), but seein Cannooks walk and free them was often better then seein their own frenchies troops, simply because those frenchies troops have failed to protect them and they where close family...canook troops where like the long lost family member coming back home.
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Why do I find it hard to believe that half a million children were killed in colateral damage? Where are the facts?
Also, Baagism, I think you need to sit in the corner before I smash your face for putting words in my mouth.
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"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
HAH!
Too bad we don't have a big army up here in Canada...
It's just that we have so many friends we don't need one.
But it's understandable to defend your country, it's only natural
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Comapared to the bombings during WWII and Vietnam, the US military has done a decent job of mitigating civilian casualities during the war in Iraq. I'm confident that US commanders do all they can to prevent harm to the civilian population.
Ico
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By the way, don't get the wrong impression here.
I don't Hate the US at all...
Infact i go there 2 or 3 times a year for grocies you can't get in canada, to Buffalo.
like that Arizona iced tea and stuff.
I was just acting in defence to Kiamde's comment.
But i do firmly believe there are Pros and Cons to each country.
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Hmm since when did the US start planitng roadside bombs, blowing up buildings, and decapitating people and videotaping it?
Oh well i guess its all a matter of perspective.
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Lock this thread as its wrong from the start. Yes civilians die to the american military. At no time does the american military condone targeting civilians. At no point has the american military threatened a civilian population if a military didnt cooperate. We target governments and militaries. Your confusion comes from a good heart but the difference is motive. Yes we use our military for our gain. Yes we use our military to implement US policy globaly. We do not use our military to terrorize civilian population.
If you look at the facts in iraq you'll notice that more civilians have died to arabs than americans. You'll notice at least 5 occasions where the american military has given up strategic advantage to give civilians time to move. I dont support our war in iraq. I've quit my job and refuse to pay taxes until Bush is out of office. I'm on strike as US Taxpayer because my conscience dictates that i have no part in it. I've sacrificed heavily personally for my morals. But i do not see the US military as terrorists.. they are misguided though. I wont disrespect any military people either because ultimately they are humans just like me and they risk their life for their beliefs. You have to respect that whether you agree with their motives or not.
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Why?
That's ultimately the issue here, why would that be wanted?
every country has their own way, if the whole world was like America...
I don't want to even go into detail on that
Some countries are best left alone to sort their own issues, and don't need an american army forcing they're will upon them.
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BUT, i do agree with copeland
this thread should and will be locked eventually.
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Well as i've stated in previous threads i believe in freedom. As far as why well its pretty clear that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and democracy only serves to create a middle class of consumers who support the rich through labor and money. I don't think there can be any misinterpeting the motive by a person with an average intellect.
Make a difference!
Well thats not entirely true. When you deal with a democracy the citizens have to be held responsible for what the government does. Unfortunately this means that all the people who chose to vote for someone else get caught in the crossfire but as americans are "self governed" who do you think they'll look at? We are the government therefore we are just as guilty as george w bush to the world. I know i cant change how the world looks at me but i can control how i feel about myself.
Make a difference!
I at least hope that you've a bit of savings to support yourself.
However, that is an interesting point. As a citizen I see it as my duty to pay my taxes to support the common good. I'm not particularily thrilled with the war, but I've choosen to act through my elected officials.
Ico
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I don't support the war in Iraq. Also, America isn't the terrorists, but the government is. Who is sending the Army to bomb Iraq and kill thousands of innocent people(Iraqis/American Soldiers)? The government. Saying that the whole of America are terroists is too broad. And also, everything now is more expensive and the average income is getting smaller. The common good as IcoGames says is of course for the citizens right? Well, then, would you prefer thousands of soldiers and innocent Iraqi civilians getting killed or would you go with the government, and storm Iraq, not capturing the people that they've been striving to catch, and meanwhile sacrificing thousands of lives. This does not support the common good. Also, Iraq is rich in oil and so the government may just be trying to get the oil. Bush said that they would capture Suddam Hussien. They did that. And along that, they destroyed thousands of buildings and caused Rebellions and also made the soldiers stay further in Iraq. We are in a way terrorists but does it look like we have a choice?
Well thats not entirely true. When you deal with a democracy the citizens have to be held responsible for what the government does. Unfortunately this means that all the people who chose to vote for someone else get caught in the crossfire but as americans are "self governed" who do you think they'll look at? We are the government therefore we are just as guilty as george w bush to the world. I know i cant change how the world looks at me but i can control how i feel about myself.
Bush held 51% of the votes of THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED. Voter turnout is always low, especially when you have two idiots running. Sure, hold the ones who voted for Bush responsible, not everyone else.
well 51% yes if you count all the dead people who voted for him.
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